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FROM   THE  LIBRARY  OF 
REV.   LOUIS    FITZGERALD    BENSON,   D.  D. 

BEQUEATHED   BY  HIM   TO 

THE   LIBRARY  OF 

PRINCETON   THEOLOGICAL  SEMINARY 


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'  L  MAY  16  1932  * 

A  BRIEF  DISCOURSE^. 


193: 

LSEW^ 


TROUBLES  BEGUN  AT  FRANKFORT, 


IN  THE  YEAR  1554, 


ABOUT   THE 


ISoofc  of  Common  draper 


Cmmomesu 


Reprinted  from  the  J3Iacft=iLetter  (Coition  of  1575, 


WITH    AN    INTRODUCTION. 


LONDON: 
JOHN  PETHERAM,  71,  CHANCERY  LANE. 


MDCCCXLVI. 


LONDON : 

GILBERT  &  RIVINGTON, PRINTER! 

st.  John's  square. 


INTRODUCTION 


PRESENT     EDITION. 


In  the  Preface  to  the  following  "  Brief  Discourse,"  and  in  a 
subsequent  page  of  the  same  work,  its  author  has,  in  a  few 
words,  given  us  the  reasons  which  induced  him  at  that  time 
to  publish  the  same  to  the  world.  Though  a  great  part  of  it 
might  have  been  arranged  a  short  period  before  the  date  which 
it  bears  in  the  title-page,  the  materials  must  have  existed  in  a 
tolerably  complete  form,  and  certainly  bear  marks  of  having 
been  written  at  the  period  to  which  it  refers.  Evidently  an 
actor  in  the  troubles  which  he  describes,  the  author  does  not 
speak  doubtingly  ;  there  is  no  appeal  to  memory  ;  for,  though 
he  could  not  be  a  personal  witness  of  what  was  simultaneously 
occurring  at  Frankfort,  Geneva,  and  elsewhere,  those  who 
furnished  him  with  information  were  such  as  he  could  rely  on, 
and  were  deputed  probably  by  him  to  register  events  as  they 
occurred  :  this  portion  also  bears  the  same  internal  marks  of 
truth.  This  narrative,  remarkable  for  its  character,  deeply 
interesting  from  its  subject,  possesses  claims  to  our  notice  that 
cannot  be  disputed.  Whoever  has  had  occasion  to  inquire 
into  the  state  of  the  exiles  for  religion  during  the  Marian  per- 

a  2 


IV  INTRODUCTION. 

secution  must  appeal  to  it ;  no  other  known  evidence  exists  on 
the  subject ;  and  though,  strange  as  it  may  appear,  conclu- 
sions favourable  to  the  Church  of  England  on  the  one  side, 
and  the  Puritans  on  the  other,  are  drawn  from  it,  its  unde- 
niable authority  is  admitted  by  all ;  and  hence,  in  a  convenient 
form,  appeared  the  necessity  for  its  republication. 

The  author,  in  the  preface,  refers  to  a  sermon  preached  at 
St.  Paul's  Cross,  in  November,  1573,  byD.  Yonge,  and  after- 
wards to  another  sermon  at  the  same  place,  in  October,  1573, 
by  M.  Mullins.  The  former  of  these  was  probably  Dr.  John 
Young,  Bishop  of  Rochester  ;  the  latter,  whose  name  appears 
in  the  present  work,  was  an  exile  during  the  reign  of  Mary, 
and  officiated  as  Greek  Reader  at  Frankfort.  At  a  subsequent 
period,  we  find  him  mentioned  as  Archdeacon  of  London, 
Canon  Residentiary  of  St.  Paul's,  and  Rector  of  Bocking. 
(Strype's  Whitgift,  i.  245,  sub  anno  1583.)  These  sermons 
appear  never  to  have  been  printed ;  or,  if  they  were,  have 
become  lost ;  which  is  to  be  regretted,  because  they  might, 
and  especially  the  latter,  have  given  some  facts  or  allusions  to 
enable  us  to  identify  the  author  of  the  "  Brief  Discourse.'" 
From  the  statement  in  the  Preface,  it  is  evident,  that  for  some 
especial  purpose  a  detail  of  the  unhappy  disturbances  which 
had  occurred  at  Frankfort,  was  given  by  M.  Mullins  in  this 
sermon.  That  it  was  not  entirely  favourable  to  the  party  of 
the  author  of  the  "  Brief  Discourse"  is  certain,  because  he 
says,  "  So  I  in  this  discours,  thought  it  needefull,  least  hap- 
pelie  that  honorable  audiece  might  mistake  the  matter,  to  set 
fourthe  by  writinge  the  verie  order,  maner,  and  proceadinge 
off  the  same."     (Preface,  p.  3.) 

To  adventure  upon  any  thing  like  an  attempt  to  identify  the 
author  of  the  work  where  so  little  evidence,   and  that  pre- 


INTRODUCTION.  V 

sumptive  only,  exists,  appeared  to  me  useless ;  and  I  should 
have  published  the  work  without  note  or  comment,  had  not  a 
literary  friend,  who  was  aware  of  my  difficulties,  volunteered 
a  letter  on  the  subject  to  Professor  M'Crie,  of  Edinburgh,  who, 
with  promptitude,  and  in  the  kindest  manner,  gave  his  views 
at  some  length,  with  full  permission  to  use  them.  The 
evidence  which  they  contain  is  so  much  more  satisfactory  than 
any  which  I  had  before  met  with,  that  I  cannot  do  better  than 
transcribe  them  in  his  own  words,  with  these  variations  only, 
that  the  references  by  him  given  to  the  edition  of  1642  are 
adapted  to  the  present  edition.  After  stating  that  he  had  met 
with  no  direct  evidence  as  to  the  authorship  of  the  "  Brief 
Discourse,"  Professor  M'Crie  proceeds  to  give  his  reasons  for 
inferring  that  the  author  was  William  Whittingham,  who  is  so 
frequently  mentioned  in  the  course  of  the  narrative  : — 

"  Whittingham,  you  may  be  aware,  was  a  celebrated 
Puritan,  who  afterwards  was  made  Dean  of  Durham,  and  who, 
along  with  Knox,  Goodman,  and  Gilby,  &c,  translated  the 
1  Geneva  Bible.'  He  was  ordained  at  Geneva,  and  though, 
through  the  interest  of  the  Earl  of  Leicester,  his  patron, 
elevated  to  the  deanery,  he  was  a  well-known  enemy  to  the 
ceremonies  of  the  Church  of  England,  and  died  in  June,  1579, 
while  the  process  of  his  deprivation  on  account  of  his  Presby- 
terian ordination  was  in  dependence.  The  evidence  on  which 
I  conclude  him  to  have  been  the  author  of  the  '  Troubles'  is  as 
follows : — 

"  1.  Whittingham  was  one  of  the  most  active  of  those  who 
endeavoured  to  reform  the  Liturgy  at  Frankfort.  Strype 
mentions  him  and  Knox  as  '  the  main  instruments  of  the  new 
office.'     (Life  of  Grindal 10.)     He  must  therefore  have  been 

a  3 


VI  INTRODUCTION. 

well  acquainted  with  the  whole  history  of  '  The  Troubles 
begonne  at  Franckford  ;'  and  feeling  himself  personally  inte- 
rested, must  have  naturally  been  anxious  to  give  a  true 
account  of  the  affair,  in  answer  to  the  misrepresentations  to 
which  he  adverts  in  the  Preface. 

"2.  If  you  look  into  the  first  part  of  the  Troubles,  you  will 
easily,  I  think,  perceive,  from  the  frequent  introduction  of 
Whittingham's  sayings  and  doings,  that  they  are  recorded  by 
himself.  First,  he  generally  calls  himself  plain  *  Whittingham,' 
while  others  are  Maister  Knox,  Maister  Goodman,  &c.  Then, 
while  he  merely  gives  the  substance  of  what  others  advised, 
we  have  whole  speeches  of  his  own ;  one  of  them  beginning 
with,  '  Then  spake  Whittingham,  and  said.'     (p.  56.) 

"  3.  A  little  before  this  you  will  find  the  author  telling  us 
of  private  interviews  which  Whittingham  had  with  Bullinger 
and  Calvin,  and  with  all  that  passed,  which  none  could  have 
reported,  or  would  have  thought  of  reporting,  but  himself, 
(p.  45-6.) 

"  4.  It  appears  that  Whittingham  left  Frankfort  for  Geneva 
in  the  end  of  1556  ;  and  of  course  he  could  no  longer  speak 
of  what  passed  afterwards  in  Frankfort  from  personal  obser- 
vation. Here,  accordingly,  he  introduces  a  long  narrative, 
entitled  '  the  History  of  that  Stir  and  Strife  which  was  in  the 
English  Church  at  Frankfort  from  the  15th  day  of  Ian.  1557 
forward.'  (p.  62.)  This  history  ends  at  p.  181,  when  the 
author  of  the  '  Brief  Discourse  '  again  takes  up  the  tale,  in  these 
words,  '  This  controuersie  which  yow  haue  now  harde  from 
the  13  of  Ianuary  hitherto,  I  finde  written  by  the  handes  off' 
such  as  are  bothe  lerned  and  off*  credit,  but  yet  I  must  nedes 
say,  by  those  that  were  parties  in  this  broyle.'  This  exactly 
agrees  with  Whittingham's  history,  who  during  '  this  broyle  ' 


INTRODUCTION.  Vll 

was  in  Geneva.  The  'hands  of  credit'  from  whom  he  re- 
ceived this  part  of  the  account,  (which  forms  fully  half  of  the 
volume,  and  is  certainly  the  least  interesting  part  of  the  whole,) 
may  have  been  some  of  the  seniors  or  deacons  whose  names 
so  often  appear  ;  and,  perhaps,  David  Whitehead,  the  pastor, 
who  died  four  years  before  the  publication  of  the  Troubles. 
This  clearly  shows  it  to  have  been  the  production  of  some  one 
or  other  of  the  ministers  who  left  Frankfort  at  that  period. 

"5.  To  bring  it  still  closer  to  Whittingham,  we  know  that 
he  was  not  only  one  of  the  translators  of  the  Bible  at 
Geneva,  but  that  he  translated  some  of  the  Psalms  into  metre. 
Some  of  his  translations  are  included  in  the  version  of  Stern- 
hold  and  Hopkins,  and  were  signed  originally  in  the  Common 
Prayer-Book  with  his  initials,  W.  W.  Now,  if  you  consult 
p.  192,  you  will  find  the  author  going  very  much  out  of  his 
way  to  introduce  the  translation,  and  also  '  the  Psalms  both 
in  meeter  and  prose;'  and  then,  with  all  the  becoming  modesty 
of  one  who  could  say  ( quorum  magna  pars  fui,'  he  adds, 
'  And  with  what  successe  those  workes  were  finished,  {espe- 
cially the  Bible,)  I  must  leaue  it  to  the  iudgementes  of  the 
godly  lerned,  who  shulde  best  iudge  ofFthe  same.' 

"  6.  We  know  the  names  of  all  the  translators  of  the  Geneva 
Bible,  and  there  is  none  of  them  to  whom  we  can  ascribe  the 
authorship  of  the  Troubles,  without  being  guilty  of  anachro- 
nism, except  Whittingham,  Goodman,  or  Gilby.  As  to  Good- 
man, he  was  by  far  too  vehement  a  nonconformist  to  have 
written  in  the  smooth  and  almost  subdued  style  in  which  this 
work  is  composed.  And  we  cannot  conceive  of  Gilby  writing 
about  'the  humbleness  of  Gilby  and  his  godly  zeal.'  (p.  37.) 

"  7.  Again,  we  are  informed  that  Whittingham  accompanied 
the  Earl  of  Warwick  in  his   defence  of  Newhaven  against  the 


Vlll  INTRODUCTION. 

French.  There  he  was  a  preacher  for  some  time ;  and,  as  Wood 
observes,  though  he  was  ready  in  his  ministerial  function,  he 
dissuaded  his  hearers  against  conformity.  Compare  this  with 
what  the  author  of  the  Troubles  says,  p.  196,  '  The  Erie 
off  Warwick  at  his  beinge  in  Newhauen,  had  in  dede  with  him 
certeine  Ministers  for  a  time,  but  after  that  the  Cannon  came 
and  began  to  roare,  &c.  then  (I  weene)  not  a  Minister  there 
left  but  Maister  Kethe  alone.'  Now  it  is  certain  that  Whit- 
tingham  was  there,  and  though  he  may  have  felt  unwilling  to 
mention  his  own  name,  from  modesty,  or  desire  of  concealing 
himself  as  the  author,  would  any  other  person,  especially  a 
nonconformist,  as  the  author  certainly  was,  have  omitted  to 
mention  him  in  these  circumstances  ?  He  appeals,  too,  to  the 
Earl  of  Warwick  (as  '  that  right  noble  Erie  can  vppon  his 
honor  testifie'),  as  one  who  had  personal  evidence  of  the 
fact  he  stated,  evidently  in  the  style  of  a  confidential  com- 
panion. 

"  8.  Above  all,  I  place  much  weight  on  the  style  of  the 
piece.  In  general,  it  is  written  in  a  style  of  great  calmness, 
caution,  and  restraint,  as  by  one  who,  though  conscientiously 
opposed  to  the  ceremonies  of  the  English  Church,  felt  that  he 
lived  in  a  house  of  glass,  and  might  suffer  for  his  freedom. 
Strype  says  that  he  first  refused  to  subscribe  the  articles,  but 
afterwards  yielded,  and  was  preferred  to  the  deanery.  He  is 
wrong  in  putting  the  preferment  after  the  subscription  ;  for 
it  appears  he  was  made  dean  in  1563,  and  did  not  subscribe 
till  1571.  (See  Brooks'  Puritans,  i.  230—234.)  But  his 
subscribing  the  articles  is  perfectly  consistent  with  his  writing 
this  book  ;  many  subscribed  who  opposed  the  ceremonies  ; 
and  Wood  describes  Whittingham  as  a  lukewarm  conformist, 
an  enemy  to  the  habits,  and  a  promoter  of  the  Geneva  doc- 


INTRODUCTION. 


trine  and  discipline.  Bancroft  in  his  '  Dangerous  Positions,' 
speaks  of  Whittingham  as  '  afterward  unworthily  Dean  of 
Durham,'  and  ranks  him  with  Goodman,  Gilby,  and  others. 
So  does  Roger  L'Estrange  in  his  violent  philippic,  'The 
Holy  Cheat.' 

"Then  the  style  of  the  composition  is  clearly  identical  with 
other  writings  of  Whittingham.  Compare  it  with  his  letter  at 
pp.  47—50  of  the  Troubles,  or  with  his  Preface  to  Chris- 
topher Goodman's  rare  tract,  '  How  Superior  Powers  ought 
to  be  obeyed,'  &c,  and  you  cannot  fail  to  perceive  the  simi- 
larity. The  same  incoherent,  jumbled  sort  of  sentences,  and 
the  same  ever  recurring  parentheses,  are  very  striking  marks 
of  identity. 

"  9.  It  serves  to  confirm  my  hypothesis,  that  the  author 
speaks  of  having  kept  these  things  secret  for  twenty  years 
(which  carries  us  back  to  1555,  when  Whittingham  was  in 
the  midst  of  the  troubles),  that  he  speaks  of  great  striving 
and  struggling  with  himself  before  resolving  no  longer  to  con- 
ceal it  (p.  197),  and  that  he  intimates  his  intention  of  con- 
tinuing the  narrative  '  euen  to  this  present  tyme.'  (p.  194.) 
This  was  never  accomplished ;  and  on  the  supposition  that 
Whittingham  was  the  author,  may  be  easily  explained.  Soon 
after  the  publication  of  the  Troubles  in  1575,  he  was  brought 
into  troubles  himself,  and  he  died  a  few  years  after,  viz.  in 
June,  1579." 

We  may  add  here,  also,  that,  in  the  rebellion  in  the  North 
in  1569,  headed  by  the  Earls  of  Northumberland  and  West- 
morland, Whittingham  did  the  state  essential  services,  and  to 
this  he  apparently  refers  at  p.  19G.  "  And  thus  it  is  euidente, 
that  theis  [Kethe,  Temes  and  Standon]  with  a  nomber  moo 


X  INTRODUCTION. 

who  are  now  so  ill  thought  off,  as  iff  they  were  traitors  and  re- 
bells,  haue  yet  byn  so  farre  off  from  beinge  sedicious,  that 
they  haue  at  all  times  aduentured  their  liues  againste  seditious 
persons  and  rebells,  when  as  suche  as  nowe  so  hardly  charge 
them  bothe  by  worde  and  writinge,  haue  byn  right  hartely  well 
content  to  take  their  ease  and  reste  at  home." 

Though  Dean  of  Durham,  it  is  certain  that  the  Puritans 
reckoned  upon  Whittingham's  services.  We  find  in  that 
scarce  volume,  A  Parte  of  a  Register,  p.  12,  "A  Godly  and 
zealous  letter  written  by  Mai.  A.  G.  [Anthony  Gilby]  1570," 
to  Coverdale,  Turner,  Whittingltam,  Sampson,  Leaver,  Crow- 
ley, and  others,  "  that  labour  to  roote  out  the  weedes  of 
Poperie"  in  which  he  nothing  doubts  of  their  zeal  and  dili- 
gence "  against  the  Romishe  reliques  and  ragges  of  Anti- 
christe,"  or  of  their  labour  "  to  race  out  all  the  dregges  and 
remnants  of  transformed  Poperie,  that  are  crept  into  Englande, 
by  the  too  much  lenitie  of  them  that  wilbe  accounted  the 
Lords  of  the  Cleargie,"  the  whole  letter  being  written  much 
in  the  same  strain. 

The  narrative  of  the  proceedings  relative  to  the  expulsion 
of  Knox  from  Frankfort,  appears  to  be  less  fully  detailed 
[see  pages  44,  45,]  than  we  might  expect.  This  deficiency  is 
supplied  in  a  great  measure  by  Knox  himself,  who,  upon  his 
return  to  Geneva,  committed  to  writing  an  account  of  the 
reasons  of  his  retiring  from  Frankfort,  and  which  he  intended 
to  have  published  in  his  vindication  :  but  upon  mature  de- 
liberation, he  resolved  to  suppress  it,  and  leave  his  own  cha- 
racter to  suffer,  rather  than  expose  his  brethren  and  the  com- 
mon cause  in  which  they  were  engaged.  Dr.  M'Crie,  with 
the  same  motive,  has  also  omitted  it  in  his  Life  of  Knox 
(p.  119);  but  as  the  MS.  of  Calderwood,  in  which  it  is  pre- 


INTRODUCTION.  xi 

served,  has  been  recently  given  to  the  world,  in  justice  to  the 
character  of  Knox  and  his  friends,  it  is  here  supplied  from 
the  recent  edition  of  Calderwood's  History,  edited,  for  the 
Wodrow  Society,  from  the  original  in  the  British  Museum,  by 
the  Rev.  T.  Thomson.  This  narrative  should  follow  the  ter- 
mination of  the  first  paragraph,  at  page  45. 

"  The  dayes  following,"  says  Knox,  "  the  sermoun  was 
delayed  by  commandement  of  the  magistrats,  and  Dr.  Coxe, 
Mr.  Lever,  Mr.  Whittinghame,  and  I,  were  appointed  to  con- 
sult of  some  godlie  order,  which  we  did,  by  the  space  of  two 
dayes  in  the  hous  of  Valeranus  Polanus,  in  the  which  reasoun- 
ing,  what  sobernesse  was  found  in  me,  I  referre  to  these  notes 
which  Mr.  Valeran  did  tak  in  writt  of  our  argument.  But  the 
thrid  day,  when  the  order  of  matins,  to  beginne  alwayes  with, 
'  Domine  labia,'  '  Deus  in  adjutoriuml  et  '  Deum  laudamus,' 
and  other  prescript  words,  not  read  in  the  Scripture,  were 
called  an  order  borrowed  of  the  Papists,  and  Papisticall ;  then 
begunne  the  tragedie,  and  our  consultatioun  ended.  Who  was 
most  blame-worthie,  God  sail  judge  ;  and  if  I  spake  ferventlie, 
to  God  was  I  fervent.  During  the  time  of  these  our  con- 
troverseis,  one  Mr.  Isaac  of  Kent  cometh  to  my  hous,  to 
move  me  to  relent  frome  my  earnestnesse  against  the  booke, 
and  promiseth  me  favour  ;  if  not,  he  threatneth  somewhat  to 
follow.  My  answere  was,  that  I  would  wishe  my  name  to 
perishe,  so  that  God's  booke  and  his  glorie  might  onlie  be 
sought  amongst  us.  But  afterward,  this  same  Mr.  Isaac,  by 
the  counsell  of  some  preests,  who  seemed  to  be  sore  offended 
with  my  sermoun,  devised  how  to  have  me  cast  in  prisoun ; 
and  he  reported,  he  knew  weill  I  sould  not  escape.  So, 
seeking  to  their  old  shott-ankcr,   they  cryed  out  against  me, 


Xll  INTRODUCTION. 

'  Non  est  amicus   Ccesaris,'  he   is  not  Caesar's   freind ;    the 
which  dart  the  devill  doth  ever  shoot,  by  the  craft  of  the 
preests,  against  the  true   preachers.     For  when  neither  doc- 
trine nor  life  can  be  reproved  in  Christ  and  his  sancts,  yitt 
this  serves  at  all  assayes  ;  though  they  love  not  the  emperour, 
no  more  than  did  the  old  Pharisees,  for  hatred  of  their  brethrein 
they  can  find  suche  cautels  [stratagems].     O  Lord  God,  open 
their  hearts,  that  they  may  see  their  wickednesse,  and  forgive 
them  for  thy  manifold  merceis  ;   and  I  forgive  them,  O  Lord, 
frome  the  bottome  of  my  heart.     But  that  thy  message  sent 
by  my  mouth  sould  not  be  slaundered,  I  am  compelled  to  de- 
clare the  caus  of  my  departing,  and  so  to  utter  their  folleis,  to 
their  amendement  I  trust,  and  the  exemple  of  others  who,  in 
the  same  banishement,  can  have  so  cruell  hearts  to  persecute 
their  brethrein.     To  be  short,  the  said  Mr.  Isaack,  and  one 
Parrey,  late  Chanceller  of  Salisburie,  by  the  counsell  of  Dr. 
Coxe,  Dr.  Bale,  Turner  of  Wynsore,  Jewell  of  Oxfoord,  and 
others,  accused  me  before  the  magistrats,  in  nyne  articles,  of 
high  treasoun  against  the  emperour,  his  sonne  Philip,  King  of 
Spaine,   and  the  Queene  of  England.     My  words  are  these 
that  follow,  in  a  booke  named  the  '  Admonition  of  Christians, 
concerning  the  present  Troubles  of  England.'     First,  speaking 
against  idolaters,  and  how  they  ought  by  the  expresse  com- 
mand of  God  to  be  putt  to  death,  and  yitt  reserved  by  God's 
providence,  I  said: 

1.  "If  Marie  and  her  counsellers  had  beene  sent  to  hell 
before  these  dayes,  her  crueltie  sould  not  have  so  manifestlie 
appeared  to  the  world." 

2.  "  Jesabell  never  erected  halfe  so  manie  gallowes  in  all 
Israel,  as  mischeevous  Marie  hath  done  within  London  alone." 

3.  "  Would  anie  of  you  have  confessed,   two   yeeres  ago, 


INTRODUCTION.  Xlli 

that  Marie  your  mirrour  had  beene  false,  dissembling,  uncon- 
stant,  proud,  and  a  breaker  of  promise,  except  suche  promises 
as  she  made  to  your  god  the  Pope,  to  the  great  shame  and 
dishonour  of  her  noble  father  ?" 

4.  "  The  love  of  her  native  countrie  could  not  move  that 
wicked  woman's  heart  to  pitie." 

5.  "  She  declareth  herself  an  open  trateresse  to  the  realme 
of  England,  contrarie  to  the  just  lawes  of  the  same,  to  bring 
in  a  stranger,  and  mak  a  proud  Spaniard  king,  to  the  destruc- 
tion of  the  nobilitie  and  subversioun  of  the  realme." 

6.  "If  God  had  suffered  her  (for  our  scourge)  and  her 
cruell  counsell  to  come  to  authoritie,"  &c. 

7.  "  Under  an  English  name  she  hath  a  Spaniard's  heart." 

8.  "  Muche  trouble  in  England  for  the  establishing  of  this 
wicked  woman's  authoritie,  I  meane,  of  her  that  now  raigneth 
in  God's  wrath,"  &c. 

9.  "  Mariage  ought  not  to  be  contracted  with  those  that  are 
mainteaners  of  idolatrie,  suche  as  the  emperour,  who  is  no 
lesse  enemie  to  Christ  than  was  Nero."  (Calderwood's 
History,  i.  300 — 302.) 

A  few  words  only  will  be  necessary  in  reference  to  the 
present  reprint.  Three  editions  of  the  work  are  known  :  the 
first  in  4to,  1575  :  the  second  in  4to,  1642,  printed  at  that 
time,  according  to  Strype  (Annals  II.  i.  483,  8vo  ed.),  "as 
tending  to  favour  the  courses  that  were  at  that  time  in  hand, 
to  throw  off  the  Common  Prayer-Book,  and  to  blacken,  as 
much  as  they  could,  the  church  and  churchmen  ;"  although 
one-half  of  what  Strype  asserts  to  be  added  in  the  preface 
to  this  edition,  exists  in  that  of  1575.  The  third  edition  will 
be  found  in  the  Phoenix,  2  vols.  8vo,  1707-8. 


xiv  INTRODUCTION. 

The  edition  of  1575,  from  which  the  present  is  taken,  is  in 
a  foreign  black  letter,  and  not  unlikely  to  have  been  printed 
at  Geneva.  The  text  has  been  faithfully  followed,  typo- 
graphical errors  only  excepted,  which  there  appeared  no  reason 
for  retaining :  the  orthography  and  punctuation  also,  are,  with 
rare  exceptions,  left  as  they  were  found.  It  was  originally 
my  intention  to  have  given  a  list  of  the  whole  of  the  corrections 
made,  but  their  frequency  precluded  it.  After  page  105  verso, 
in  the  original,  there  is  an  error  in  paging,  the  next  page  being 
110:  this  was  probably  a  cancel  (sheet  O  iii  and  iv  being 
wanting),  though  the  work  as  we  have  it  is  undoubtedly  per- 
fect. This  hiatus  will  also  be  found  in  the  reprint,  because, 
as  it  is  printed  paginatim  with  the  original,  it  will  be  found 
more  convenient  for  reference.  To  have  edited  the  work 
would  require  more  knowledge  than  I  possess,  and,  did  I 
possess  that,  more  time  than  I  could  devote  to  the  subject. 
The  reader,  I  hope,  will  accept  what  is  done  with  candour 
and  kindness.  J.  P. 

London,  Oct.  14,  1845. 


a    Brteff   titfcour0 

off   the    troubles    begonne    at    Franck- 
ford  in  Germany  Anno  Domini  1554.    Abowte 

the  Booke  off  common  prayer  and  Ceremonies,  and  conti- 
nued by  the  Englishe  men  theyre,  to  thende  off  Q.  Maries 
Raigne,  in  the  which  discours,  the  gentle  reader  shall  see 
the  very  originall  and  heginninge  off  all  the 
contention  that  hathe  byn,  and  what  was 
the  cause  off  the  same. 


Marc.  4. 

For  there  is  nothinge  hid  that  shall  not  be  opened  nei- 
ther is  there  a  secreat  but  that  it  shall  come  to  light,  yff 
anie  man  haue  eares  to  heare,  let  him  heare. 


M.  D.  LXXV. 


THE    PREFACE. 

To  the  Christian  readers,  grace,  mercy,  and  peace 
in  Christe  Iesu  our  Lorde. 

Suche  as  doowell  obserue  the  varietie  of  menes  Iudge- 
mentes  abowte  these  matters  off  cotrouersie,  and  the 
supposed  causes  of  the  same,  shall  finde  it  a  thinge 
more  the  woderfull  to  beholcle,  and  passinge  strange  to 
heare.  But  who  so  shall  well  waye  and  c5sider,  what 
extreame  calamities  and  miseries  this  broile  hathe 
brought  with  it  to  manie  godlie  persons  whiche  vn- 
fainedly  feare  god :  the  same  muste  off  force,  as  I  think 
(iff  he  haue  but  one  drop  off  humanitie  within  him) 
drawe  forthe  deepe  and  sorowfull  sighes  from  the  harte, 
and  teares  from  the  eyes.  To  passe  ouer  sundrie  I  will 
note  but  this  one.  where  as  in  tymes  paste  (bothe  at 
Paules  crosse  and  other  places)  the  soundes  whiche 
were  wont  to  be  so  sweete  as  might  iustely  haue  moued 
the  godly  hearers  to  crye  owte  with  the  Prophet  Esay 
()  howe  beutifull  are  the  feete  off  them  which  bring 
glad  tydinges  off  peace,  &c.  are  nowe  become  (com- 
monly so  soure  and  vnsauery,  that  in  steede  off  sweet- 
nes,  is   founde  litle  or  nothinge   but  wormewood  and 


II. 

bitter  gall.  And  yet  I  speak  not  off  suche,  whose  cruell 
scoffinge,  and  vnbridled  natures,  are  to  well  knowen 
so  farr  to  exceede,  as  fewe,  (discreete  and  wise  in  dede) 
can  be  muche  moued  with  anie  thinge  almoste  they 
eyther  speak  or  write :  but  euen  off  those  I  meane, 
whose  wisedomes  grauitie,  and  lerninge,  as  the  same 
claimeth  by  good  right,  dew  reuerence  to  the  persons, 
bycause  off  those  good  giftes  whiche  God  hath  be- 
stowed vpon  them  so  shuld  it  also  put  them  in  minde 
(especially  in  such  places)  to  vse  (me  semes)  some 
other  veine.  And  for  so  muche  as  some  impute  the 
cause  off  all  these  troubles  to  the  ambitious  heades  off 
By  D.       certeine  speciall  persons,  who  shoulde  (as  hathe  bene 

Yonge  in 

Noutber.    at   paules  crosse  bothe  publiekly  and  very  furiously 

Anno,  x 

l573,  declared)  stirr  vpp  this  striffe  in  the  churche  for  that 
they  could  not  attaine  to  Bishopprikes  when  as  other 
enioyed  them :  Some  also  imputinge  it  to  the  strange 
churches  aswell  beionde  the  seas  as  here  amonge  vs 
remayninge,  therby  to  prouoke  the  displeasures  of  the 
Magistrates  against  them  : 

Such  as  D.  And  some  supposinge,  (yea  roaringe  owte)  that  this 
hath  happened  by  such  fantasticall  heades  as  ca  abyde 
no  platforme  but  off  their  owne  deuisinge :  I  haue  for 
theis  and  suche  like  considerations,  thought  good  by  a 
shorte  and  brieff  discours  to  let  your  se  the  verye 
originall  and  beginninge  off  all  this  miserable  conten- 


Elbo- 


III. 

tion,  leauinge  neuertheles  to  your  discreet  iudgmentes, 
who  (in  theis  matters)  are  to  be  thought  innocente, 
and  who  most  to  blame. 

And  as  one  bothe  off  credit,  learned,  and  off  autho-  M.  Mui- 

lins  in 

ritie,  thought  it  not  onely  meete  and  expedient  openly  October 
at  paules   crosse   (in   presence  off  the  honorable   and 
worshipfull  there)  to   signifie  vnto  them  that  such  a 
hotte  contention   (abowte   theis   matters  had  bin,  but 
also,  noted  the  place  where  and  the  time  whan :  So  I  in  Franck/ord 

the  place, 

this  discours,  thought  it  needefull,  least  happelie  that  *»& 
honorable  audiece  might   mistake   the   matter)   to  set tyrm' 
fourthe  by  writinge  the  verie  order,  maner,  and  pro-  puaina, 
ceadinge  off  the  same:  followinge  herein  the  steppes  afflotrin. 
such,  whom  god  off  his  goodnes  hath  raised  vp  at  all  Fox  with 

llHlr)!/ 

tymes  and  amonge  all  nations,  to  commit  thinges  to  ot,/e>'- 
memorye,  whiche  hath  passed  in  commonweales,  who 
haue  with  great  fredom  and  libertie  byn  suffred  to 
make  manifest  to  the  whole  worlde  the  ill  dealinges 
euen  off  Popes,  Cardinalls,  Emperours,  Kinges  and 
Princes,  where  as  (in  this  discours)  the  highest  that  I 
touche  (and  that  with  great  grieff  off  hart)  are  (to  my 
knowledge)  but  certeine  Bishopps,  and  therfore  I  hope 
the  more  to  be  borne  withall,  besechinge  allmightie  god 
that  as  by  theis  my  poore  simple  trauailes,  my  mean- 
inge  was  not  (either  in  contempt  or  sekinge  reuenge) 
to  prouoke  the  farther  displeasures   off  the  meanest: 


mi. 

that  so  iff  it  be  his  blessed  will,  the  same  maie  finde 
fauor  in  the  eies  off  oure  soueragine  L.  the  queenes 
most  excellet  maiestie,  and  the  right  honorable,  whom 
it  hathe  pleased  him  to  place  in  high  authoritie,  for 
whose  prosperitie  and  welfare  it  becommeth  all  true 
and  faithfull  subiects  (as  they  are  dutifully  bounde) 
moste  earnestly  to  praie. 


THE   HISTORIE. 

After  that  yt  had  pleased  the  lorde  God  to  take  awaie  for 
our  synnes  that  noble  prince  off  famous  memorie,  kinge 
Edwarde  the  sixthe,  and  had  placed,  Queene  Marie  in  his 
roume :  Sundrie  godly  men  aswell  strangers,  as  off  the 
English  nation,  fledd,  for  the  libertie  off  their  consciences, 
ouer  the  seas,  some  into  France,  some  into  Flanders,  and 
some  into  the  high  countries  off  the  Empire,  and  in  the 
yere  of  oure  lorde.  1554.  and  the  27.  off  Iune  came  Ed- 
monde  Sutton,  William  Williams,  William  Whittingham,  and 
Thomas  wood,  with  their  companies,  to  the  citie  off  Franck- 
ford  in  Germany  the  firste  Englishe  men,  that  there  arriued 
to  remaine  and  abide.  The  same  night  came  one  Maister 
Valaren  pullan  Minister,  vnto  their  lodginge,  ad  declared 
howe  he  had  obtained  a  churche  there,  in  the  name  of 
all  suche  as  shuld  come  owte  off  Englande  for  the  Gospell, 
but  Especially  from  Glassenbury  whiche  were  all  french 
men.  Answere  was  made  him,  that  as  god  was  to  be  praised, 
who  had  moued  the  Magistrats  hartes  to  shewe  the  frenche 
suche  fauour :  Euenso,  for  so  muche  as  fewe  off  them  vnder- 
stoode  the  frenche  tonge,  it  woulde  be  small  commoditie  to 
them,  or  to  suche  as  shulde  come  afterwarde  to  ioyne  them- 
selues  to  that  churche. 

The  nexte  daye  they  communed  with  Maister  Morellio 
another  Minister  of  the  frenche  churche,  and  also  with  maister 
Castalio  a  Senior  off  the  same,  (bothe  off  them  godly  and  lerned 
me)  By  their  aduise  and  counsaile  it  was  determined,  that 
a  Supplication  shulde  be  drawe  owt,  and  offred  to  the  Ma- 
gistrats, to  knowe,  firste  whither  they  woulde  be  contented, 
that  not  onely  the  parties  before  named,  but  also  all  other  En- 
glishe men  that  woulde  repaire  thither  for  the  like  cause,  might 
through    their   fauour   be    suffred  saffely  to  remaine   within 


VI. 

their  city.  This  supplication  was  subscribed  aswell  by  the 
sayed  Sutton,  whittingam,  and  the  reste  off  the  Englishe 
men,  as  also  by  Morellio,  Castallio,  and  one  Adrian  a 
Citteze  there,  with  whom  they  lodged.  And  within  three 
daies  after  the  offringe  vp  off  their  Supplication,  they  obtained 
their  requestes. 

The  8.  off  Iuly  followinge,  labor  was  made  (by  the  coun- 
saile  and  aduice  off  Morellio  and  Castalio  (who  duringe  their 
lyues  shewed  them  selues  fathers  to  all  Englishe  men)  to 
Maister  Iohn  Glawberge  one  off  the  chiefest  Senators,  for 
a  place  or  churche,  wherin  they  and  all  their  country  men 
might  haue  gods  worde  truly  preached,  and  the  Sacraments 
sincerely  ministred  in  their  naturall  tonge,  who  ientlie  pro- 
mised his  furtherance,  and  that  he  also  woulde  move  the  whole 
Senate  theroff,  the  whiche  he  did  accordingly.  And  the  14. 
daie  off  the  same  monethe  yt  was  graunted  that  they  shulde 
haue  libertie  to  preache  and  minister  the  Sacraments,  in  that 
churche  which  the  freche  men  had,  the  freche  one  daie  and  the 
Englishe  an  other  daie  and  vp5  the  Sundaie,  to  chuse  also  the 
homes  as  they  coulde  agree  amonge  them  selues,  but  yt  was 
with  this  commandement,  that  the  Englishe  shulde  not  di- 
scent  from  the  french  men  in  doctrine,  or  ceremonyes,  least 
they  shulde  thereby  minister  occasion  off  offence,  and  willed 
farther,  that  before  they  entred  their  churche,  they  shulde 
approue  and  subscribe  the  same  confession  off  faith,  that  the 
frenche  men  had  then  presented,  and  abowte  to  put  in  printe, 
to  the  whiche  all  the  afore  named  (and  others  whiche  were 
by  this  time  come  thither)  did  subscribe. 

When  the  churche  was  in  this  sorte  graunted,  they  con- 
sulted amonge  themselues,  what  order  off  seruice  they  shulde 
vse  (for  they  were  not  so  strictly  bownde,  as  was  tolde  them, 
to  the  ceremonies  off  the  frenche,  by  the  Magistrats,  but  that 
iff  the  one  allowed  off  the  other  it  was  sufficient.)  At  lenght, 
the  englishe  order  was  perused,  and  this  by  generall  consente 
was  concluded  that  the  answeringe  alowde  after  the  Minister 
shulde  not  be  vsed,  the  letanye,  surplice,  and  many  other 
thinges  also  omitted,  for  that  in  those  reformed  churches,  suche 


VII. 

thinges  woulde  seeme  more  then  strange.  It  was  farther 
agreed  vppon,  that  the  Minister  (in  place  off  the  Englishe 
Confession  shulde  vse  an  other,  bothe  off  more  effecte,  and 
also  framed  accordinge  to  the  state  and  time.  And  the  same 
ended,  the  people  to  singe  a  psalme  in  meetre  in  a  plaine  tune 
as  was,  and  is  accustomed  in  the  frenche,  dutche,  Italian, 
Spanishe,  and  Skottishe  churches,  that  don,  the  minister  to 
praye  for  thessistance  off  gods  holie  spirite  and  so  to  proceade 
to  the  sermon.  After  the  sermon,  a  generall  praier  for  all 
estates  and  for  oure  countrie  of  Englande  was  also  deuised,  at 
thende  off  whiche  praier,  was  ioined  the  lords  praier  and  a 
rehersall  of  tharticles  off  oure  belief!,  whiche  ended  the  people 
to  singe  and  other  psalme  as  afore.  Then  the  minister  pro- 
nouncinge  this  blessinge.  The  peace  off  god,  &c.  or  some  other 
off  like  effecte,  the  people  to  departe. 

And  as  touchinge  the  ministration  off  the  Sacraments 
sundrie  things  were  also  by  common  consente  omitted,  as 
superstitious  and  superfluous.  After  that  the  congregation 
had  thus  concluded  and  agreed,  and  had  chosen  their  minister 
and  Deacons  to  serue  for  a  time  :  they  entred  their  churche  the 
29  off  the  same  monethe.  Then  was  it  thought  good  amonge 
themselues,  that  forthwith  they  shulde  aduertise  their  countrie 
men  and  betheren  dispersed  off  this  singuler  benefit,  the  like 
wheroff  coulde  no  where  else  as  yet  be  obtained,  and  to  per- 
swade  them  (all  worldly  respectes  put  aparte)  to  repaier 
thither,  that  they  might  altogether  with  one  mouthe  and  one 
harte  bothe  lamete  their  foremer  wickednes  and  also  be  thank- 
full  to  their  mercifull  father  that  had  geuen  them  suche  a 
churche  in  a  strange  lande  wherein  they  might  heare  gods  worde 
truly  preached,  the  Sacraments  rightly  ministred,  and  Disci- 
pline vsed,  which  in  their  owne  countrie  coulde  neuer  be 
obtained.  And  to  this  effecte  were  letters  directed  to  Straus- 
burgh,  Zurick,  Densbrugh,  and  Emden  in  the  2.  off  Auguste. 
And  for  that  it  was  thought  the  churche  could  not  longe 
contynewe  in  good  order  withowte  discipline,  there  was  also 
a  brieff  forme  deuised,  declaringe  the  neccssitie,  the  causes, 

b  2 


VIII. 

and  the  order  theroff,  wherunto  all  those  that  were  present 
subscribed,  shewinge  therby  that  they  were  ready  and  wil- 
linge  to  submitt  themselues  to  the  same,  accordinge  to  the  rule 
prescribed  in  gods  holie  word,  at  whiche  time  it  was  deter- 
mined by  the  congregation  that  all  suche  as  shulde  come  after, 
shulde  doo  the  like,  before  they  were  admitted  as  members 
off  that  churche. 

Here  followethe  the  generall  letter  sente  from  the  con- 
gregation off  Franckforde,  to  Strausbourge, 
Zurick,  Wezeil,  Emden,  &c. 

Grace  mercy  and  peace  in  Christ  our 
Lord :  8$c. 

We  dowte  not  (dearely  beloued)  but  yow  haue  harde,  as- 
well  by  letter,  as  by  reporte,  off  the  excellent  graces  and 
mercy  whiche  oure  good  god  and  heauenly  father  hathe  shewed 
vnto  oure  litle  congregation  in  this  citie  of  Franckford,  for 
that  he  hathe  not  onely  made  the  Magistrats  and  commons 
very  fauorable  towards  vs  and  louinge,  but  also,  hathe 
geuen  them  hartes,  with  muche  compassion  to  tender  vs,  in 
so  muche  that  euerie  man  helpethe  vs,  no  man  is  againste 
vs,  muche  loue,  no  grudge,  glad  to  please,  lothe  to  annoie 
vs,  yea,  and  to  declare  thfs  good  will  not  to  be  off  the  meane 
sorte,  nor  so  small  as  oure  brethern  haue  felte  otherwere, 
they  haue  graunted  that  thinge,  whiche  amonge  others  and 
in  other  cities,  we  coulde  not  obtaine  nor  durste  allmoste 
hope  for.  For  what  greater  treasure  or  sweeter  comforte 
can  a  Christian  man  desier,  then  to  haue  a  churche  wherin 
he  maie  serue  god  in  puritie  off  faithe,  and  integritie  off  lyfe, 
whiche  thinge  yff  we  wishe  for,  let  vs  not  refuse  it,  seinge 
where  we  woulde,  we  coulde  not  there  obtaine  it.  And  here 
yet  it  is  graunted  in  so  ample  wise,  that  beinge  subiecte  to  no 
blemishe,  no,  nor  so  muche  as  the  euell  off  suspition  (fro  the 
whiche  fewe  churches  are  free)  we  maie  preache,  minister, 
and  vse  Discipline,  to  the  true  settinge  forthe  off  gods  glorie 


IX. 

and  good  ensample  to  others.  And  for  our  partes,  we  haue 
not  bene  negligente  as  touchinge  the  execution  off  the  sayed 
benefit  graunted.  For  the  19.  of  Iuly,  we  had  (god  be  thanked) 
2.  sermons  to  oure  singuler  comforte,  and  great  ioye  off  all 
godly  men  heere.  Wherfore  brethern,  seinge  your  haue  in- 
dured  the  paine  off  persecution  with  vs,  we  thought  it  likewise 
oure  dewties  to  make  your  partakers  off  oure  consolation, 
that  altogether  we  maie  geue  thanks  to  oure  louinge  father, 
who  is  more  tender  ouer  vs,  then  the  mother  ouer  hir  childe,  Cor.  18. 
nether  suffreth  vs  to  be  temped  aboue  that  we  maie  beare, 
but  euen  to  the  issue  off  the  tentation,  geuethe  prosperous 
successe,  trustinge  by  gods  grace,  that  he  whiche  hathe  geuen 
yow  that  gifte,  not  onely  to  beleue  in  Christe,  but  also  to  suffer 
for  his  sake  :  will  so  directe  your  hartes,  that  no  respecte  off" 
commoditie  there,  nor  yet  feare  of  burthen  here  maie  once 
moue  yow  to  shrink  from  your  vocatid,  whiche  is,  in  one  faithe, 
one  ministration,  one  tonge  and  one  consente,  to  serue  god  in 
his  churche. 

What  more  manifeste  signe,  what  plainer  declaration,  what 
worde  more  expresse  and  lyuely  can  we  haue  off  dewtie  and 
vocation,  then  when  god  speakethe  in  oure  hartes  by  faithe, 
guidethe  vs  owte  off  perills  throughe  his  grace,  and  nowe 
laste  of  all  offrethe  vs  a  restinge  place  of  his  exceading  mercy. 
Yow  remeber  that  before,  we  haue  reasoned  together  in  hope 
to  obtaine  a  churche,  and  shall  we  nowe  drawe  backe  as 
vnmindfull  off  gods  prouidence,  whiche  hathe  procured  vs 
one  free  from  all  dreggs  off  superstitious  ceremonies  ? 

What,  thinke  yow,  yf  the  Prophet  Dauid  had  had  this  offre  psa(  42. 
who  desired  to  be  porter  in  the  house  of  God,  and  more  esteemed 
one  daie  so  spente,  then  a  thousande  otherwaies. 

Either  what  mente  he  when  he  saied  :  one  requeste  I  de-  p^  27, 
maunde  off  the  Lorde,  Whiche  I  will  seeke  after,  that  is,  that 
I  maie  dwell  in  the  howse  off  the  lorde  all  the  daies  off  my 
lyfe.  Had  Dauid  no  experience  ?  or  felte  he  not  what  grieff 
yt  was  to  wante  the  congregation?  And  surely  we  muste 
graunt  that  he  was  farre  more  perfect  then  we  be  :  For  he 
beinge  conuersant  in  this  worlde,   sett  his  delight  wholie  in 

b  3 


heauenly  things.  And  many  off  vs,  (we  speake  it  to  our 
shame)  as  if  we  had  already  forgotte  the  ende  of  our  crea- 
tion, are  plunged  in  earthlye  affectios,  and  worldly  respectes, 
so  that  throughe  oure  infirmities,  this  excellente  benefit  is 
like  to  be  frustrate.  For,  some  dowte  who  shal  be  preferred  : 
others  seeke  increase  off  lerninge  :  Many  followe  the  com- 
moditie  off  lyuinge  :  certein,  looke  for  a  newe  vocation,  so  that 
it  is  a  wonder  to  se  the  deformitie  off  mans  affections.  God 
Matih.  22.  grante,  we  maye  lerne  at  their  ensamples  whiche  beinge  called 
to  the  mariage  came  not,  what  it  is  to  esteeme  in  time  the 
worthenes  off  gods  benefits,  leaste,  by  the  losse  off  the  same 
we  after  fall  vnto  vnprofitable  repentance,  seekinge  againe 
oure  losse  withe  teares  as  the  reprobate  Esau  and  yet  neuer 
Mick.  3.  the  neere.  We  charge  no  one  man  (brethren)  nor  yet  meane 
Heb.  12.  a|^  an(j  on  wliat  considerations  theis  excuses  were  pretended, 
we  suspende  oure  Iudgmentes,  referringe  the  same  to  our  im- 
perfection and  infirmitie,  wherby  the  aduersary  ceasethe  not 
to  batter  dailie  the  walles  off  Gods  temple. 

As  touchinge  the  pointe  off  prefermente,  we  are  perswaded 
throughly  that  it  hathe  this  meaninge,  that  euery  ma  thought 
of  himself  modestlie,  humblie  submittinge  himself  to  all  me 
vnablinge  no  man,  for  so  muche  as  yow  knowe  that  he  whiche 
seketh  ambition,  glory,  aduantage  or  suche  like,  is  not  moued 
withe  gods  spirite  as  witnesse  the  instructions  that  Christe 
our  Maister  gaue  to  his  disciples,  who  laboring  of  like  dis- 
ease were  admonished  that  he  whiche  did  excell  amonge  the, 
shoulde  abase  himself  to  his  inferior :  whiche  malady  S.  Paul 
perceauinge  to  infecte  like  a  canker,  moste  diligently  framethe 
his  style,  that  he  might  not  seeme  to  preferr  hi  selffe  to  others 
Philip.  1.  in  the  course  of  his  ministery.  And  as  for  lernige,  as  we  wishe 
CoL  l-  to  all  men  moste  abudantly  :  so  we  moste  ernestly  require,  that 
coparinge  the  congregations  necessitie  with  your  owne  priuate 
c5moditie,  your  woulde  rather  for  Christs  sake  chose  the  bet- 
ter :  yea,  and  we  assure  your  one  good  aduertisemente,  that 
thorowe,  gods  grace,  when  we  shalbe  assebled  together,  suche 
order  wilbe  taken,  that,  besides  those  thinges  whiche  oure  natio 


XL 

shalbe  able  to  furnishe,  we  haue  the  citie  moste  forwarde  to 
procure  others,  Yff  anye  woulde  pretende  the  hardnes  off  the 
countrie  and  charges,  oure  experience  rnaie  sufficiently  satis- 
fie  them,  who  hauinge  travelled  throwgh  moste  places,  where 
the  gospell  is  preached,  haue  not  founde  so  manie  commo- 
dites  nor  lesse  charges. 

Restethe  the  tyme  off  callinge,  whiche  we  referre  to  your 
consciences,  besechinge  your  for  Christes  sake  to  descende 
into  your  selues  withowt  all  parcialitie,  wayinge  the  grauitie  off 
the  matter  whiche  is  goddes,  and  the  selie  excuse  whiche  the 
fleshe  ministrethe.  Consider  what  god  woulde  saie,  I  haue 
prepared  a  plentifull  and  ripe  harueste  whiche  standethe  in  a 
redines  and  waitethe  for  the  mower  and  I  haue  appointed  thee 
thy  taxe.  I  haue  geuen  instrumentes,  and  all  things  fit  for 
the  labor,  yff  thow  forslowe  it,  the  croppe  is  in  daunger  :  yff 
thow  loke  for  oft  warning  thow  declarest  great  negligence. 

This  speache  (Dearly  beloved)  or  very  like,  god  vsed  to 
Noah,  Abraham,  Ieremiah,  &c.  and  they  thought  their  voca- 
tion stronge.  But  yow  through  Goddes  benefit,  do  not  onely 
heare  god  thus  perswadinge  in  your  hartes,  but  also  haue 
bene  by  externe  callinge  confirmed,  and  accordinge  therunto 
haue  walked  to  the  great  glorie  off  God  and  profit  off  the 
cogregation.  We  truste  therfore  (brethern)  and  in  Iesus 
Christe  require  it,  that  your  woulde  hyde  your  talent  no  longer 
but  hauinge  newe  occasion  to  imploye  it,  your  woulde  put  it 
forthe  for  your  Maister  his  aduantage  and  your  owne  discharge. 
For  iff  your  feele  in  your  hartes  comforte  as  wee  doo  whiche 
are  here  assembled  to  heare  the  worde  of  god  preached  and 
the  Sacraments  ministred,  we  assure  yow,  yow  should  sen- 
sible perceaue  that  which  the  Prophet  speakethe  in  theis 
termes ;  as  the  harte  chased  pantethe  for  gredines  off  waters  : 
euen  so,  (o  lorde)  my  soule  seekethe  after  thee.  My  soule  Psal>  -r. 
burnethe  for  thirste  in  seekinge  the  Lorde  and  saithe  :  Alas 
when  shall  I  be  able  to  appeere  before  the  face  off  the  lyuinge 
god  ?  what  thinge  then  ought  we  to  haue  in  greater  recommen- 
dation, then  the  order  and  policie  whiche  god  hathe  established 

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XII. 

in  his  church e  ?  that  we  maie  be  taught  by  his  worde,  that 
we  maie  worshippe  him  and  call  vpon  his  name  with  one  ac- 
corde,  that  we  maie  haue  the  true  vse  off  his  Sacraments  to 
helpe  vs  to  the  same  ?  For  theis  be  the  means  wherby  we 
muste  be  confirmed  in  the  faithe,  in  the  feare  off  God,  in  holy- 
nes  off  conuersation,  in  the  contempte  of  the  worlde,  and  in 
the  loue  off  life  euerlastinge.  And  for  this  consideration 
Ephes.  4.  S.  Paule  saithe  not  that  this  order  whiche  the  Lorde  hathe  set 
in  his  churche  shulde  onely  be  for  the  rude  and  symple,  but 
makethe  it  common  to  all,  exceptinge  no  man.  For  he  hathe 
ordeined  (saithe  he)  some  to  be  Apostles,  some  prophetes, 
some  Euangelistes,  others,  to  be  teachers  and  instructors,  to 
confirme  the  godly  and  to  labor  to  finishe  the  buildinge  off 
Christes  body  till  we  be  all  brought  to  one  consente  in  faithe 
to  the  knowledge  off  the  sonne  off  god,  to  a  perfect  man,  and 
finally,  to  the  iuste  measure  off  a  ripe  Christian  age.  Let  vs 
all  marke,  that  he  saithe  not,  that  god  hathe  left  the  scriptures 
onely,  that  euery  one  shulde  reade  it,  but  also,  that  he  hathe 
erected  a  policie  and  order,  that  their  shulde  be  some  to  teache, 
and  not  for  one  daye,  but  all  the  time  off  our  lyffe  euen  to 
the  deathe  for  that  is  the  tyme  off  our  perfection.  Wherfore 
brethren,  let  vs  submit  our  selues,  and  leaue  off  farther  to 
tempte  God,  seinge,  that  yff  we  wilbe  off  the  body  off  Christ, 
we  must  obeie  to  this  generall  rule.  Let  no  respecte  off 
worldly  policie  staie  vs.  Let  no  perswasion  blinde  vs.  But 
let  vs  fulfyll  in  oure  selues  that  whiche  Esaias  forwarnethe  that 
goddes  children  shalbe  as  pigions,  whiche  flee  by  flocks  in  to 
their  douehouse,  whiche  is  the  place  where  the  worde  of  god 
is  preached,  the  sacraments  ministred,  and  praier  vsed. 

To  conclude  therfore  (dearely  beloued)  let  euery  man  call 
his  conscience  to  counsaile,  and  besides  these  sweete  allure- 
ments, let  vs  learne  to  preuent  our  aduersaries,  who  sekinge 
euer  to  obscure  goddes  glorie,  maye  easelie  cauell  at  this  dissi- 
pation. And  woulde  to  god  the  slaunder  were  not  allready  to 
our  great  grieff  in  sundry  places  scattered  in  so  muche,  that  in 
Englande,    manie    take   occasion  to  remaine  in   their    filthe. 


XIII. 

And  some  thinke  they  maye  dissemble,  vntill  a  churche  be 
confirmed,  perceauinge  that  this  our  scatteringe,  augmentethe 
the  griefe  of  persecution,  and  so  throughe  our  negligece  we  leese 
them  for  whom  Christe  died.  Consider  brethren,  it  is  gods 
cause,  he  requirethe  yow,  it  is  your  dewtie,  necessitie  vrgethe, 
time  willethe,  your  father  speakethe,  children  muste  obeie,  oure 
enemies  are  diligente  and  the  aduersary  is  at  hande. 

Almightie  god  graunt  for  his  sonnes  sake  that  we  maie 
rightly  ponder  the  matter,  followe  oure  callinge,  serue  the 
tarne,  heare  the  speaker,  walke  in  obedience  and  resist  oure 
enemies.  We  desier  yow  all  take  this  in  good  parte,  seinge  we 
haue  written  nothinge  but  what  charitie  did  indite  and  that 
whiehe  we  truste,  and  wishe  yow  woulde  haue  don  to  vs  in 
case  like.     From  Franckford  this  2.  off  August.  1554. 

Your  louynge  brethern. 

Iohn  Stanton.  WjJMm^Wttlmms.        William  Hammon. 

lohn  Makebray       William  Wittinc/liam    Thomas  Wood. 

Mighell  Gill. 

Shortlye  after,  the  lerned  men  off  Strausbrough  answered 
to  this  generall  letter  before  mentioned  in  this  sorte  :  That 
they  had  considered  the  contentes  theroff  and  perceiued 
that  the  effecte  was  no  other  but  to  haue  one  or  two  take  the 
chieff  charge  and  gouernaunce  off  the  congregation.  And  that 
in  case  they  might  get  D.  poinet.  Maister  Scory.  D.  Bale  or 
D.  Cox,  or  two  off  them,  they  shulde  be  well  furnished,  yff 
not,  they  woulde  appointe  one  at  Strausbrough  and  an  other 
shuld  come  from  Zurick  to  serue  the  turne  at  whiche  tyme 
master  Grindall  wrote  to  master  Scory  at  Emden  perswadinge 
him  to  be  Superintendent  off  this  churche  off  Frankf.  who 
(in  2.  seuerall  letters  to  his  priuate  frinds,  offred  his  seruise 
to  the  congregation,  but  before  the  receipte  theroff  the  con- 
gregation had  writte  their  letters  to  maister  Knox  at  Geneua 
to  master  Haddon  at  Strausb.  and  master  Leuer  at  Zurick, 
whom  they  had  elected  for  their  ministers  and  aduertised 
master  Scory  by  a  generall  letter  off  the  same. 

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XIIII. 

Nowe,  when  the  answere  that  came  from  Strausbrough 
was  read,  and  compared  withe  the  letter  written  vnto  them, 
it  did  not  in  anie  pointe  answere  it.  For  the  congregation 
wrote  not  particulerly  for  anie  certeine  nomber,  but  generally 
wishinge  all  mens  presence,  nether  did  they  require  to  haue 
anye  superintendent  to  take  the  chieff  charge  and  gouerne- 
ment,  for  the  choise  and  election  theroff  (yff  suche  a  one  had 
bene  necessary)  ought  to  haue  byn  reserued  to  the  congre- 
gation, whiche  fully  determined  at  that  tyme  to  haue  the 
churche  gouerned  by  2.  or  3.  graue,  godly  and  lerned  Minis- 
ters off  like  authoritie,  as  is  accustomed  in  the  beste  reformed 
churches. 

The  21.  off  October  the  Students  off  Zurick 

wrote  also  an  answere  to  the  generall  letters 

afore  saied  in  this  wise. 

The  grace  and  peace  off  God  the  Father  and  off  our  Lorde 
lesus  Christe  be  with  your  all  Amen. 

As  God  by  his  singuler  prouidence  hathe  wonderfully  blessed 
vs  aswell  in  mouinge  the  hartes  off  the  Senators  and  minis- 
ters here,  to  lament  oure  state,  fauor  and  aid  vs  in  oure 
requests  :  as  also  in  geuinge  happie  successe  for  all  kinde  off 
prouision  to  oure  vse  and  behoufe.  So  he  well  knowethe, 
that  we  no  other  wise  esteeme  the  same  then  maie  stande  withe 
his  glory,  oure  professio,  and  the  comforte  off  his  afflicted 
churche,  but  dailie  labor  in  the  knowledge  off  his  worde  to 
thintent  that  when  god  oure  mercifull  father  shall  so  think 
good,  we  maie  be  bothe  faithfull  and  skilfull  dispensers 
theroff. 

And  as  runninge  in  the  sweete  race  off  oure  vocation,  ye 
haue  ernestly  written  vnto  vs  for  to  repaier  thyther,  burthen- 
inge  vs  so  sore  with  your  necessitie,  that  ye  think  our  shrink- 
ing back  in  this  behalff  shulde  argue  want  off  charitie,  keepe 
manie  in  Englande  still  whiche  else  would  willingly  come 
foorth,  and  shewe  oure  selues  careles  off  that  consrcsation 


whose  edefyinge  and  winninge  to  Christe  we  onely  pretend  to 
seeke.  These  are  great  causes,  but  touchinge  vs  nether  so 
truly  obiected,  so  firmely  grounded,  nor  yet  so  aptlie  applied, 
but  that  as  sounde  reasons  on  our  partes  might  fully  answere 
the  same.  Yet  notwithstanding,  in  as  muche  as  yow  appeale  to 
our  consciences  whiche  in  the  daie  off  the  Lorde  shall  accuse 
or  excuse  vs  in  this  thinge  and  all  other,  we  will  not  vtterlie 
deny  your  requests,  but  shewe  oure  selues  as  ready  to  seeke 
gods  glorie  and  the  increase  off  his  kingdome  other  there  or 
elsewhere  to  the  vttermoste  off  oure  powers,  as  euer  we  did 
pretende  to  do,  requiringe  yow  all  in  the  name  and  feare  off' 
god,  that  as  we,  all  respects  set  aporte  and  vnfainedly  trauel- 
inge  in  the  necessary  knowledge  off  Christe  to  the  profit  off' 
his  churche  here  after,  refuse  not  for  your  nedie  comforte  to 
accomplishe  your  desyres  :  So  ye  will  not  interrupte  oure 
studies,  vrge  oure  remouinge,  and  bringe  vs  thither,  feelinge 
here  allreadie  the  exceadinge  goodnesse  off  god  towardes  vs, 
vnlesse  ye  thinke,  and  that  before  god,  that  oure  absence  on 
thone  parte  shulde  greatly  hinder,  and  oure  presence  one  the 
other  side  verie  muche  further  your  godly  attemps  alreadye 
begonne  for  the  furnishinge  off  that  churche  so  happely  ob- 
tained to  all  oure  comfortes,  for  the  whiche  in  oure  dailie 
prayers  we  geue  god  moste  hartie  and  humble  thankes.  Yff' 
by  this  doinge  ye  geue  occasion  to  breake  oure  godlie  feloshippe, 
to  hurte  our  studies,  to  dissolue  oure  exercises,  and  vtterly 
to  euerte  our  godly  purposes,  ye  haue  to  answere  euen  vnto 
him  whiche  is  a  faithfull  and  a  iuste  Iudge,  and  will  geue 
to  euerie  man  accordinge  to  his  dedes.  Wherfore,  deare 
brethern,  in  consideration  that  we  be  all  not  onely  off  one 
nation,  but  also  members  off  one  misticall  body  in  Iesus 
Christe  our  head,  and  ought  therfore  especially  in  this  time  off 
exile  and  moste  worthely  descrued  crosse  by  all  means  pos- 
sible, one  to  aide  and  comforte  an  other,  besechinge  god  for 
his  mercies  sake  to  asswage  his  wrathe,  to  geue  vs  repentinge 
hartes  and  patient  continuance  to  our  brethern  at  home  with 
pity   to  beholde  his   vineiarde   there  miserablie   spoiled  and 

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XVI. 

trodden  vnder  foote,  and  to  call  vs  home  after  his  fatherly 
chastisemente  eftsones  frutefnlly  to  worke  in  the  same  :  we 
briefly  make  this  answere.  Yff  vppon  the  receipte  here  off, 
ye  shall  withowte  cloke  or  forged  pretence,  But  onely  to  seke 
Christe  aduertise  vs  by  your  letters,  that  our  beinge  there  is  so 
needfull  as  ye  haue  alreadie  signified,  and  that  we  maie  alto- 
gether seme  and  praise  god  as  freely  and  as  vprightly,  (wheroff 
pryuate  letters  receiued  lately  from  Franckf.  make  vs  muche 
to  dowte)  as  the  order  laste  taken  in  the  churche  of  England 
permittethe  and  perscribethe  (for  we  are  fully  determined  to 
admitt  and  vse  no  other)  then,  abowt  easter  nexte  (for  afore 
we  cannot)  god  prosperinge  vs,  and  no  iuste  cause  or  occasion 
to  the  contrary  growinge  in  the  meane  time  wherby  our  intente 
maie  be  defeated  with  one  consente  we  agree  to  ioine  oure 
selues  vnto  yow  and  moste  willinglie  to  doo  suche  seruise 
there,  as  oure  poore  condition  and  callinge  dothe  permit.  In 
the  meane  space,  we  shall  moste  intirely  beseche  almightie 
God  so  to  assiste  yow  withe  his  holy  spirit,  that  your  doings 
maie  helpe  to  confounde  papistrie,  set  forthe  gods  glorie,  and 
shewe  suche  light  in  the  face  off  the  worlde,  that  bothe  the 
wicked  maie  be  ashamed,  hauinge  no  iuste  cause  off  reproche, 
and  also  oure  weake  brethern  confirmed  and  woone  to  the 
truthe.     From  Zurick  this  13.  off  October.  1554. 

Your  louing  frinds. 

Robart  Home.  Iohn  Mulling s.  Iohn  Parkhuste 

Richard  Chambers.  Thomas  Spencer.  Roger  Kelbe. 

Thomas  Leuer.  Thomas  Bentham.  Robart  Beamont. 

A  iclwlas  Karuile.  William  Cole.  Laurence  Humphry, 


Henry  Cockrafft. 
Iohn  Pretio. 

Abowte  this  tyme  Letters  were  receyued  from  maister 
Haddon  Wherin  he  desired  for  diuers  considerations  to  be 
excused,  for  comminge  to  take  the  charge  vppon  him  ?{ 
Franckford. 


XVII. 

The  24.  off  October  came  maister  Whithead  to  Franck- 
ford,  and  at  the  requeste  off  tke  congregation,  he  tooke 
the  charge  for  a  time,  and  preached  vppon  the  Epistle  to 
the  Romains. 

Abowte  the  4.  off  Nouember  came  Maister  Chambres 
to  Franckford  with  letters  from  Zurick  whiche  were  partlie 
an  answere  to  an  other  letter  written  vnto  them  from 
Franckforde  the   26.   off  September,    whiche  was  as  fol- 


lowithe. 


Grace  mercy  and  peace,  fyc. 


After,  longe  hope  off  your  answere  to  our  letter,  we  thought 
it  good  to  put  you  once  againe  in  remembraunc.  And  as  we 
in  our  former,  so  nowe  in  theis  also  in  gods  behalff  moste 
ernestly  require  yow  deeplie  to  waie  this  matter  off  gods 
callinge,  and  the  necessitie  off  this  congregation.  We  haue 
throughly  lerned  your  estate  and  also  made  yow  priuie  to 
oures,  and  eftsonnes,  wishe  we  might  be  together  to  bewaile 
our  synnes  paste,  to  praie  together  for  oure  poore  brethem 
that  are  vnder  Antechristes  captiuitie,  to  comforte,  instructe, 
and  profit  one  an  other.  And  finally  to  bestowe  the  time  off 
oure  persecution  together  and  redeeme  theis  daies  whiche 
are  so  euell.  And  iff  anye  desier  off  knowledge  staye  yow, 
certenly,  it  woulde  not  be  so  litle  increased  here  that  yow  shulde 
iustly  repent.  For  as  touchinge  the  companie  off  lerned  men 
(as  yow  cannot  here  be  withowte)  so,  that  thinge  whiche 
chiefly  your  can  require  of  lerned  mens  Iudgmets  and  know- 
ledge owte  off  their  workes,  your  maie  suck  moste  plentifully 
wherof  with  vs  yow  can  lake  no  store  We  nede  not,  brethern, 
to  make  loge  discouse  in  reasoninge,  for  we  partlie  knowe 
that  gods  spirit,  whiche  workethe  in  your  hartes  shall  preuaile 
withe  yow  more,  the  disputinge,  not  dowtlge,  but  the  same 
holie  spirit  knocketh  at  the  dore  off  your  cdscieces  not  only  to 
raoue  yow  of  oure  behalffs,  but  to  admonishe  yow,  to  auoide  the 
incoueniences  of  talkes,  and  the  offences  of  oure  poore  brethern 


XVIII. 

of  Englande,  whose  marueilinge  cannot  otherwise  be  satis- 
fied. Remember  therfore  (dearly  beloued)  that  we  wryte  as 
bretheren,  to  oure  deare  brethern,  who  altogether  seeke  oure 
fathers  honor,  oure  owne  discharge  and  the  comforte  off  oure 
afflicted  countrie  men. 

The  same  sweete  father  graunt  for  his  Christs  sake  that 
we  maie  assemble  together,  to  the  buildinge  off  this  his  Temple, 
to  let  the  false  workemen,  and  vnderminers,  and  diligently  in 
our  vocation  to  helpe  to  the  furnishinge  off  the  same  till  it 
rise  to  perfection.  Fare  ye  well  in  Christe.  From  Franckford 
this  16.  off  Septemb.  1554. 

Your  louinge  frinds  :  as  in  the 
letter  afore  so  vnder  this 
subscribed. 

The  answere  to  them  off  Franckford  was,  as 

foloweth. 

We  beinge  placed  here  in  quietnes,  with  many  and  great 
commodities  for  oure  studies  tendinge  all  to  edification  off 
Christes  churche,  haue,  vnto  the  earneste  requests  off  your 
letters  vnto  vs,  answered  in  our  letters  vnto  yow,  that  to 
discharge  all  dewtie  in  conscience,  and  to  increase  and  in- 
structe  your  congregation  at  Franckford  withe  oure  presence 
and  diligence  will  not  deny  to  remoue  from  hence  vnto  yow, 
so  that  yow  charged  off  conscience  do  constantly  affirme, 
that  ye  haue  so  great  neede  off  vs  as  by  letters  was  signified, 
and  certeinly  assure  vs  that  we  with  yow  maie  and  shall  vse 
the  same  order  off  seruice  concerninge  religion  which  e  was 
in  Englande  laste  set  forthe  by  kinge  Edward.  And  nowe 
also  for  the  better  vnderstading  off  suche  requests  and  charit- 
able performance  off  dewtie,  vpon  bothe  partes  desired  and 
procured  Maister  Richard  Chambers  our  beste  frinde,  a  man 
moste  charitable  and  carefull  for  the  Christian  congregation, 
to  take  pains  to  trauell  vnto  yow  and  withe  yow  for  vs  :  so 
that  this  matter  as  it  is  begon  and  moued  in  writinge  maie 


XIX. 

be  fully  debated  and  concluded  by  his  faithful]  means  and 
diligence.  For  we  be  all  agreed  and  do  purpose  to  allowe  and 
performe  what  so  euer  he  shall  saie  and  promes  in  oure  names 
vnto  yow.  Wherfore,  we  beseche  yow  in  Goddes  name 
conscionably  to  consider  the  estate  and  condition  bothe  off 
yow  and  vs,  and  iff  there  vppon  yow  conclude  withe  the  saied 
master  Chambers  off  oure  comminge  vnto  yow,  then  let  him 
not  lack  your  charitable  helpe  in  necessary  prouision  for  our 
continuance  withe  yow.  And  thus  besechinge  god  that  your 
doings  maie  tende  to  his  glorie,  and  the  spedy  comforte  off 
his  afflicted  churche  we  wishe  yow  all  helthe  and  increase  off 
true  knowledge  in  Christe  our  lord  and  sauiour.  From  Zurick 
this  27.  off  October.  Anno  1554. 

Your  lovinge  frinds  as  in 
the  letters  before. 

When  Maister  Chambers  had  conferred  with  the  con- 
gregation and  sawe  that  they  coulde  not  assure  him  the 
full  vse  off  the  Englishe  booke  withowte  the  hazardinge 
off  their  churche,  he  prepared  to  departe  from  whens  he 
came,  and  by  this  time  was  Maister  Knox  come  from  Ge- 
neua,  (and  chosen  minister)  vppon  the  receipte  off  a  letter 
sent  him  from  the  congregation,  whiche  letter  was  as  fo- 
lowithe. 

We  haue  receiued  letters  from  oure  brethern  off  Straus- 
brough,  but  not  in  suche  sorte  and  ample  wise  as  we  looked 
for,  wheruppon  we  assembled  together  in  the  H.  Goaste  we 
hope,  and  haue  with  one  voice  and  consent  chosen  yow  so 
particulerly  to  be  one  off  the  Ministers  off  our  congregation 
here,  to  preache  vnto  vs  the  moste  liuely  worde  off  God,  ac- 
cordinge  to  the  gift  that  God  hathe  geuen  yow  for  as  muche 
as  we  haue  here  throughe  the  mercifull  goodnes  off  God  a 
churche  to  be  congregated  together  in  the  name  off  Christe, 
and  be  all  of  one  body,  and  also  beinge  of  one  natio,  tonge,  and 
countrie.     And  at  this  presente,  hauinge  neede  off  suche  a  one 


XX. 

Mark  the   as  yow,  we  do  desier  yovv  and  also  require  yow  in  the  name 

CKnoxtf  off  God  not  t0  deny  vs'  nor  t0  remse  tneis  oure  requests,  but 
the  pastor-  that  yovv  will  aide,  helpe  and  assiste  vs  with  your  presence  in 
%PP'  this  our  Good  and  godlie  entreprise,  whiche  we  haue  take  in 
hand  to  the  glorie  off  god  and  the  profit  off  his  congregation 
and  the  poore  sheepe  off  Christ  dispersed  abroad,  who  withe 
your  and  like  presences,  woulde  come  hither  and  be  of  one 
folde  where  as  nowe  they  wander  abroad  as  loste  sheepe  with- 
owte  anie  gide.  we  mistruste  not  but  that  yow  will  ioifully 
accepte  this  callinge.  Fare  ye  well  from  Franckford  this  24. 
off  September. 

Your  louinge  brethern. 

Iohn  Bale 
*  Edmond  Sutton. 
N  Iohn  Makebraie. 


—  William  Whitingham  +  Thomas  wood.        ^Mighell  Gill. 


Thomas  Cole 
-  William  Williams 
George  Chidley 
William  Hammon. 
Thomas  Steward 


'Iohn  Stanton 
William  Walton 
Iasper  sivyft 
Iohn  Geofrie. 
Iohn  Graie 


Iohn  Samford 
Iohn  Wood. 
Thomas  Sorby 
Anthony  Cariar 
Hugh  Alforde. 


Nowe  to  returne  to  the  tenor  of  the  letter  which  the 
congregation  off  Franckford  wrate  by  Maister  Chambers  to 
the  students  off  Zurick. 


We  haue  receyued  your  2.  seuerall  letters  the  one  dated  the 
13.  off  October  sent  vs  from  Strausbrough  and  the  other 
the  27.  off  the  same  by  the  hands  off  your  deare  frinde 
Maister  Chambers  and  haue  conferred  with  him  at  large, 
touching  the  contents  theroff.  And  when  as  after  diuers 
assemblyes  and  longe  debatings  the  saied  Maister  Chambers 
perceyued  that  we  coulde  not  in  all  points  warrant  the  full  vse 
off"  the  booke  off  seruice  (whiche  semethe  to  be  your  full  scope 


XXL 

and  marke)  and  also  waying  in  conscience  the  great  benefit 
that  God  hathe  in  this  citie  offred  to  our  whole  nation,  he  not 
only  reioised  at  the  same,  but  also  promised  to  trauell  in  per- 
swadinge  yow  to  the  futheraunce  therof.  As  touchinge  the 
eflfecte  off  the  booke,  we  desire  the  execution  theroff  as  muche 
as  yow,  (so  farr  as  Gods  worde  dothe  commende  it)  but  as 
for  the  vnprofitable  ceremonies,  aswell  by  his  consent  as  by 
ours,  are  not  to  be  vsed.  And  althoughe  they  were  tollerable 
(as  some  are  not)  yet  beinge  in  a  strange  commo  wealthe,  we 
coulde  not  be  suffred  to  put  them  in  vse,  and  better  it  were 
they  shulde  neuer  be  practised,  then  they  shulde  be  the  sub- 
uersion  off  oure  churche,  whiche  shulde  fall  in  great  hassard  by 
vsinge  them. 

The  matter  is  not.  oures  more  then  yours,  (excepte  anie 
excell  others  in  godly  zeele)  but  bothe  wishe  gods  honor. 

Iff  a  larger  gate  be  opened  there,  to  the  same  then  to  vs, 
vppon  your  perswations,  ye  shall  not  fmde  vs  to  drawe  back, 
for  this  is  that  necessitie,  brethern,  that  maie  not  be  neglected, 
yff  we  wishe  the  comforte  and  gatheringe  together  off  oure 
dispersed  brethern.  Yff  anie  think  that  the  not  vsinge  off 
the  booke  in  all  pointes  shoulde  increase  our  godly  fathers, 
and  bretherns  bands,  or  els  anye  thinge  deface  the  worthie 
ordinances  and  lawes  off  our  Soueraigne  Lorde  off  moste 
famous  memory.  K.  Edward  the  6.  he  semethe  ether  litle  to 
waie  the  mater,  or  ells  letted  through  ignorance  knowethe 
not  that  euen  they  themselues  haue  vppon  considerations  off 
circumstances,  altered  heretofore  many  thinges  as  touchinge 
the  same.  And  iff  god  had  not  in  theis  wicked  daies  other- 
wise determined,  woulde  here  after  haue  chaunged  more,  yea 
and  in  oure  case  we  dowte  not  but  that  they  woulde  haue  don 
the  like.  Theis  fewe  lines  concerninge  bothe  our  comuni- 
cations  we  haue  accordingely  written  vnto  yow,  referringe  the 
reste  to  the  discretion  off  oure  Good  frinde  Maister  Cham- 
bers, who  knoweth  that  we  haue  shewed  oure  selues  most 
conformable  in  all  thinges  that  standethe  in  our  powers  and 
moste  desirous  off  your  companies  accordinge  to  our  former 


XXII. 

letters.  The  spirit  off  God  moue  your  hartes  to  do  that  which 
shalbe  most  to  his  glory  and  the  comforte  off  your  brethern. 
At  Franckford.  this  15.  of  Nouember. 

Your  louinge  frinds,  &c. 

The  28.  off  Nouember  Maister  Chambers  came  againe 
to  Franckford  from  Strousbrough,  and  with  him  Maister 
Grindall  with  letters  from  the  lerned  men  there,  sub- 
scribed with  16.  off  their  handes,  whiche  letter  was  as 
folowethe. 

When  we  do  consider  what  inwarde  comforte  it  were  for 
the  faithfull  people  off  Englande  now  dispersed  for  the 
gospell,  and  wandringe  abroad  in  strange  countries  as  shepe 
withowte  pastor,  to  be  gathered  together  in  to  one  congrega- 
tion, that  with  one  mouth,  one  minde,  and  one  spirit  they 
might  glorifie  God  :  we  haue  at  all  tymes  and  do  presently 
think  it  oure  dewties,  not  only  in  harte  to  wishe  that  thinge, 
but  also  to  labor  by  all  means  so  muche  as  in  vs  lyethe  to 
bringe  the  same  to  passe.  And  hauinge  nowe  perfit  intelli- 
gence off  the  Good  mindes,  whiche  the  magistrats  off  Franck- 
ford beare  towardes  yow  and  others  oure  scattered  countrie 
men,  and  also  vnderstandinge  off  the  free  graunt  off  a  churche 
vnto  vs  wherin  we  maie  together  serue  god,  and  not  dowtinge 
off  their  farther  frindshipp  in  permittinge  vs  franckly  to  vse 
our  religion  accordinge  to  that  godly  order  sett  forthe  and  re- 
ceaued  in  England  :  We  bothe  geue  god  thankes  for  so  great 
a  benefit,  and  also  thinke  it  not  fit  to  refuse  so  frindly  an 
offre,  or  to  let  slippe  so  good  an  occasion.  Therfore,  neither 
dowtinge  off  their  good  furtherance  hereunto,  nor  yet  distrust- 
inge  your  good  conformitie  and  ready  desiers  in  reducinge  the 
Englishe  churche  now  begun  there,  to  it  former  perfection  off 
the  laste,  had  in  Englande,  so  farre  as  possiblie  can  be  atteined, 
least  by  muche  alteringe  off  the  same  we  shulde  seeme  to  con- 
demne  the  chieff  authors  theroff,  who  as  they  nowe  suffer,  so 
are  they  moste  redie  to  confirme  that  facte  with  the  price  off 


XXIII. 

their  blouds  and  sbulde  also  bothe  geue  occasion  to  our  aduer- 
saries,  to  accuse  oure  doctrine  of  imperfection,  and  vs  of  mu- 
tablitie,  ad  the  godly  to  dowte  in  that  truthe  wherin  before  they 
were  perswaded,  and  to  hinder  their  cominge  hither  whiche 
before  they  had  purposed  :  For  the  auoidinge  off  these,  and  the 
obtaininge  off  the  other,  moued  hereunto  in  conscience  and 
prouoked  by  your  ientle  letters,  we  haue  thought  it  expedient 
to  sende  ouer  vnto  yow,  oure  beloued  brethern  the  bringers 
hereof!  to  trauell  withe  the  magistrats  and  yow  concerninge 
the  premisses,  whose  wisedomes  lerninge  and  godly  zeele,  as 
they  be  knowen  vnto  yow,  so  their  doings  in  this  shall  fullie 
take  place  withe  vs.  And  yff  they  obtaine  that  whiche  we 
truste  will  not  be  denied  at  no  hands  :  Then  we  intend  (God 
willinge)  to  be  with  yow  the  firste  off  February  next,  there  to 
helpe  to  set  in  order  and  stablishe  that  churche  accordingly. 
And  so  longe  altogether  to  remaine  with  yow  as  shall  be  neces- 
sary, or  vntill  iuste  occasion  shall  call  some  off  vs  awaie. 

And  we  dowte  not  but  that  our  brethern  off  Zurick,  Emden 
Duesbrough  &c.  will  do  the  same  accordingly,  as  we  haue 
praied  them  by  oure  letters  trustinge  that  yow  by  yours  will 
make  like  requeste.  Fare  ye  well  from  Strasbrough  this  23. 
off  Nouember. 

Your  louing  frinds, 

lames  Haddon         Iohn  Geoffrye  Arthur  Saule. 

Edwin  Sands  Iohn  Pedder.  Thomas  Steicard. 

Edmond  Grindall.   Thomas  Eaten,  Christ.  Goodman 

Iohn  Huntington  Mighell  Reymuger  Humphry  Alcocson 
Guido  Eaten.  Augustine  Bradbridge.  Tho.  Lakin 

Tho:  Craft  on. 

This  letter  was  red  to  the  congregation,  at  whiche  tyme 
maister  Grindall  declared  the  occasi5  of  ther  cominge  whiche 
(amoge  other  things)  was  chieflie  for  thestablishinge  of  the 
booke  off  England  not  that  they  mente,  (as  he  saied)  to  haue 
it  so  strictly  obserued  but  that  suche  ceremonies,  and  thinges 


XXIIII. 

whiche  the  countrie  coulde  not  beare,  might  well  be  omitted, 
so  that  they  might  haue  the  substance  and  eflfecte  therofF. 
Maister  Knox  and  whittingham  asked  them  what  they  mente 
by  the  substance  off  the  booke,  It  was  answered  by  the  other 
that  they  had  no  comission  to  dispute  those  matters,  but  they 
requested  that  the  congregation  would  answere  to  certeine 
interogatories,  whiche  were  thies :  First,  that  they  might  knowe 
what  partes  off  the  booke  they  woulde  admit.  The  seconde 
was  for  a  seuerall  churche,  and  the  thirde  what  assurace  they 
might  haue  for  their  quiete  habitation.  To  the  firste,  answere 
was  made  that  what  they  coulde  proue  off  that  Booke  to 
stande  withe  gods  worde,  and  the  countrie  permit,  that  shuld 
be  graunted  them.  To  the  2.  whiche  was  for  a  church,  it 
was  tolde  them,  that  they  vnderstoode  by  the  Magistrats,  the 
tyme  serued  not  to  moue  anie  suche  matter  till  the  counsaile 
brake  vp  at  Ausburge.  To  the  third  it  was  saied  that  a  gene- 
rall  graunt  was  made  at  their  first  comminge  thither,  to  the 
whole  nation,  and  the  fredome  off  the  citie  offred  to  all  suche 
as  were  desyrous  off  it  in  as  large  and  ample  manner  as  they 
coulde  require,  whiche  was  to  them  assurance  sufficient. 

Theis  3.  questions  thus  answered  maister  Chambers 
and  Maister  Grindall  departe  back  againe  with  a  letter  from 
the  congregation  whiche  was  as  followethe. 

Grace  mercy  and  peace,  8$c. 
As  it  was  euer  moste  true,  so  at  this  present  we  feele  most 
sensiblie,  that  where  so  euer  god  layeth  the  foundation  to 
builde  his  glory,  there  he  continueth  till  he  bringe  the  same  to 
a  present  worke.  All  thanks  and  praise  be  vnto  him  ther- 
fore,  that  hathe  moued  your  hartes  so  as  in  no  point  ye  seeme 
to  forslowe  your  diligence  to  the  furtheraunce  off"  the  same.  And 
as  the  worke  is  off  moste  excellencie  So  the  aduersaries  cease 
not  most  craftely  to  vndermine  it,  or  at  the  leaste,  through 
false  reportes  and  defacing  off  the  worke  begon,  to  staie  the 
laborers,    whiche    shulde    trauell    in    the    fmishinge    theroff. 


XXV. 

But  truthe  euer  cleareth  it  selff,  and  as  the  Sonne  consumethe 
the  clowds,  so  misreportes  by  triall  are  confounded.  Oure 
brethern  sent  from  yow  can  certifie  yow  at  lenght  touchinge 
the  particulers  off  your  letter,  to  whom  we  haue  in  all  things 
agreed  which e  semed  expedient  for  the  state  off  this  con[gre]- 
gation.  As  for  certeine  Ceremonies  whiche  the  order  off  the 
countrie  will  not  beare  :  we  necessarily  omit  with  as  litle  al- 
teration as  is  possible  (which  in  your  letters  ye  require)  so 
that  no  aduersary  is  so  impudent  that  dare  either  blame  oure 
doctrine  of  imperfection,  or  vs  of  mutabilitie,  excepte  he  be 
altogether  willfull  ignorante,  rather  seekinge  howe  to  finde 
faultes,  then  to  amend  them.  Nether  doo  we  dissente  from 
them  whiche  lie  at  the  raunsome  off  their  blouds  for  the  doc- 
trine wheroff  they  haue  made  a  moste  worthye  confession. 

And  yet  we  thinke  not  that  anye  godlie  man  will  stande  to 
the  deathe  in  the  defence  of  ceremonies,  whiche  (as  the  booke 
specifiethe)  vpo  iuste  causes  maie  be  altered  and  chaunged. 

And  yffthe  not  full  vsinge  off  the  booke  cause  the  godly  to 
dowte  in  that  truthe  wherin  before  they  were  perswaded,  and 
to  staye  theyr  comminge  hither,  accordinge  as  they  purposed : 
either  it  signifieth  that  they  were  verye  slenderly  taught  whiche 
for  breach  off  a  Ceremonie  will  refuse  suche  a  singuler  be- 
nefit, or  ells  that  yow  haue  harde  them  misreported  by  some 
false  brethern,  who,  to  hinder  this  worthie  enterprise,  spare 
not  to  sowe  in  euerie  place,  store  off  suche  poore  reasons. 
Laste  off  all  it  remainethe  that  ye  write,  that  the  firste  off  Fe- 
bruary nexte  yow  will  come  to  helpe  to  set  in  order  and  esta- 
blishe  this  churche  accordingly,  whiche  thinge,  as  we  moste 
wishe  for  your  companies  sake  and  for  that  ye  might  se  oure 
godly  orders  alreadie  here  obserued:  So  we  put  yow  owte  of 
dowte  that  for  to  appointe  a  iourney  for  the  establishing  off 
Ceremonies  shulde  be  more  to  your  charges  then  anie  generall 
profit,  excepte  ye  were  determined  to  remaine  with  vs  longer 
then  2.  monethes,  as  ye  write  to  our  countriemen  at  Dens- 
brorow  and  Emden,  whiche  letters  notwithstandinge  are  nowe 
staid  and  as  apearethe  we  neuer  the  neere. 


XXVI. 


We  referre  the  reste  to  oure  brethern  maister  Chamber 
and  maister  Grindall,  who  by  their  diligent  inquisition  haue 
learned  so  farre  off  our  state  as  we  wrote  vnto  yow  in  our 
former  letters  that  is,  that  we  haue  a  churche  freely  graunted 
to  preach  gods  word  purely,  to  minister  the  Sacraments  sin- 
cerely and  to  execute  discipline  truly.  And  as  touchinge  our 
booke  we  will  practise  it  so  farre  as  gods  worde  dothe  assure 
it  and  the  state  off  this  countrie  permit.  Fare  ye  well.  At 
Franckf.  this  3.  off  December. 

Your  louinge  frinds. 

Gorge  Whetnall  -Thomas  Wood         ^Iohn  Makebraie 

Thomas  Whetnall      ^William  Williams  ^William  Walton 

"-Iohn  Knox.  >  Iohn  Stanton  ^Mighell  Gill. 

•"  Iohn  Bale  «*  Iohn  Samford  Laurence  Kent. 

n  William  Whitingham   Iohn  fox.  Iohn  Hollingham. 

-  Edward  Sutton.  William  Kethe 

The  answere  to  this  letter  from  Strausbrough  was  as 
foloweth. 

Grace,  mercy  and  peace,  §c. 

We  haue  receaued  your  letters,  and  also  your  answere 
in  wrytinge  concerninge  certeine  Articles,  and  do  perceyue 
aswell  by  the  same  as  by  maister  Chambers  and  Maister 
Grindall  your  state.  But  for  so  muche  as  your  opinion  is  that 
the  tyme  dothe  not  presently  serue  to  moue  the  magistrate  in 
those  requests  the  obteininge  wheroff  was  the  principall  cause 
of  our  sending  vnto  yow,  we  cannot  at  this  present  condescend 
vppon  anie  generall  meetinge,  at  anie  certeine  tyme,  ether 
to  remaine  with  yow  or  otherwise.  And  theifore,  iff  yow 
shall  certeinly  perceaue  a  time  conuenient,  that  the  Magistrats 
may  be  traueled  withe  all  aswell  for  the  good  and  quiete 
habitation  off  the  commers,  and  especially  Students,  as  also 
a  seuerall  churche,  and  to  knowe  whither  the  exercise  off 
the  booke  shall  be  vsed,  suche  we  meane  as  no  reasonable  ma 


XXVII. 

shall  iustly  reproue,   and  that  the  ccrteintie  off  theis  matters 
maie  be  knowen  at  the  magistrats  hands : 

then,  (yff  yow  can  let  vs  haue  intelligence)  we  will  farther 
consulte  what  is  to  be  done  on  oure  partye,  trustinge  god 
shall  directe  vs  to  do  so  as  maye  be  rnoste  to  his  glorie  in 
the  ende,  howe  so  euer  the  presente  tyme  shall  iudge  off  it. 
From  Strausbrough  this  13.  off  December. 

Your  louing  frinds,  &c. 
as  in  the  letteers  before. 

When  this  letter  was  redd  to  the  congregation,  they  re- 
quested that  for  so  muche  as  the  lerned  men,  coulde  not 
codescend  vppon  any  generall  and  certeine  tyme  off  meetinge 
as  nowe  appeared  by  their  letters,  they  might  conclude  vppon 
some  certeine  order  by  common  consent  still  to  continewe 
and  that  withowte  farther  delaye,  and  also  to  haue  the  holie 
communion  ministred,  whiche  the  moste  part  ernestlie  desired. 
At  lenght  (it  was  agreed  that  the  order  of  Geneua  whiche 
then  was  alreadie  printed  in  Englishe  and  some  copies  there 
amonge  them)  shulde  take  place  as  an  order  moste  godly  and 
fardeste  off  from  superstition.  But  Maister  knox  beinge 
spoken  vnto,  aswell  to  put  that  order  in  practise,  as  to 
minister  the  communion,  refused  to  do  ether  the  one  or  the 
other,  affirminge,  that  for  manie  considerations  he  coulde 
not  consente  that  the  same  order  shulde  be  practised,  till  the 
lerned  men  off  Strausbrough,  Zurik,  Emden,  &c.  were  made 
priuy.  Neither  yet  woulde  he  minister  the  communion  by  the 
booke  off  Englande,  for  that  there  were  thinges  in  it  placed 
(as  he  saied)  onely  by  warrant  of  mans  authoritie  and  no 
grownde  in  godds  worde  for  the  same,  and  had  also  a  longe 
tyme  verye  superstitiously  in  the  masse  byn  wickedly  abused. 
But  yff  he  might  not  be  suffred  to  minister  the  Sacraments 
accordinge  to  his  conscience,  he  then  requested  that  some 
other  might  minister  the  Sacraments,  and  he  woulde  onely 
preache.     Iff  nether  coulde  be  admitted  he  besought  them 


XXVIII. 

that  he  might  be  discharged.     But  to  that  the  congregation 
woulde  in  no  wise  consente. 

Whiles  these  things  were  thus  in  handlinge  came  maister 
Leuer  (before  elected)  who,  assemblinge  the  congregation 
requested  that  he  might  withe  their  consentes  appointe  suche 
an  order,  as  shulde  be  bothe  Godly  withowt  respecte  off  the 
Booke  off  Geneua  or  anye  other,  requestinge  farther,  that  for 
so  muche  as  that  office  was  off  so  great  importaunce,  ad  that 
he  had  not  byn  in  the  like  before,  that  he  might  betweene  that 
and  Easter  haue  a  triall  off  them,  and  they  off  him,  and  so  at 
the  ende  off  that  terme  either  take  or  refuse,  whiche  time  off 
triall,  as  it  was  willingly  graunted  him  :  so  when  they  vnder- 
stoode  that  the  order  whiche  he  woulde  place  and  vse  was  not 
altogether  suche  as  was  fit  for  a  right  reformed  churche,  they 
woulde  in  nowise  yelde  to  the  same. 

Knox,  whittingham,  and  others,  perceyuinge  that  theis 
beginnings  woulde  growe  to  some  what,  yff  it  were  not  staid 
in  time,  drewe  forthe  a  platt  off  the  whole  booke  off  England 
into  the  lattin  tonge,  sendinge  the  same  to  maister  Caluin  off 
Geneua  and  requestinge  his  iudgement  therin,  and  shewinge 
him  that  some  off  their  countrie  men  went  abowte  to  force 
them  to  the  same  and  woulde  admit  no  other,  sayinge,  that  it 
was  an  order  moste  absolute  and  that  yff  euer  they  came  into 
their  countrie  they  woulde  do  their  beste  to  establishe  it 
againe.     Nowe  folowethe  the  description. 


A  description  off  the  Liturgie,  or  booke  off 

seruice  that  is  vsed  in 

Englande. 

Firste  off  all,  morninge  praier  offreth  it  selff.    The  minister 
hauinge  put  on  a  white  garment  (whiche  they  call  a  surplesse) 


XXIX. 

beginninge  withe  some  sentence  off  liolie  scripture,  as  for 
example  :  yff  we  shall  saie  that  we  haue  no  sinne  we  deceyue 
oure  selues,  &c.  or  some  suche  of  like  sorte.  Then  he  takethe 
in  hande  the  exhortation,  wThiche  stirreth  vp  to  a  confession  off 
synnes,  whiche  the  minister  pronounceth  with  a  loude  voice, 
the  people  sainge  after  him.  To  this  is  added  an  absolution, 
and  when  these  thinges  are  done,  he  rehersethe  the  lordes 
praier,  and  afterward  lorde  open  thow  my  lyppes,  and  my 
mouthe  shall  shewe  forth  thy  praise.  O  god  be  redie  to  be 
my  helpe,  &c.  Then,  come  and  let  vs  singe  vnto  th  Lorde, 
&c.  By  and  by  also  there  folowe  3.  Psalmes  together  at 
thende  off  euery  one.  Then  foloweth  the  first  lesson,  whiche 
conteinethe  a  whole  chapiter  off  the  olde  Testament.  After 
this  lesson  they  saie  or  singe  we  praise  the,  lorde,  or  Blessed 
be  the  Lorde,  &c.  Then  an  other  lesson  owte  off  the  Newe 
testamente,  vnlesse  peraduenture  the  solemnization  off  some 
highe  feast  haue  other  set  and  apointed  lessons.  Nowe  in 
cathedrall  churches  they  vtter  their  lessons  in  plaine  songe  and 
the  afterwards  is  Benedictus  added.  This  booke  warnethe  that 
they  keepe  this  order  through  owte  the  whole  yere.  After- 
wards, the  crede  is  pronounced  by  the  Minister,  (all  the  people 
in  the  meane  tyme  stading  vp)  Afterwards  fallinge  downe  vppon 
their  knees,  the  Minister  saithe,  The  Lorde  be  with  yow,  The 
answere,  And  with  thy  spirite. 

Then,  Lorde  haue  mercy  vppon  vs,  Christe  haue  mercy 
vppon  vs,  Lorde  haue  mercy  vppon  vs,  &c.  our  father,  &c. 
pronounced  owte  alowde  off  all  with  all  boldnesse.  Then  the 
Minister,  when  he  standeth  vpp  saithe,  o  lorde  shewe  vs  thy 
mercy.  The  answere,  and  geue  vnto  vs  thy  sauinge  helthe.  O 
Lorde  saue  the  king  In  the  day  wherin  we  shall  call  vppon 
thee.  Indue  thy  Ministers  withe  righteousnes.  And  make  thy 
chosen  people  ioyfull.  O  Lorde  saue  thy  people.  And  blesse 
thyne  inheritaunce.  Geue  peace  in  our  tyme  o  Lorde,  &c. 
At  lenghtz.  Collects  are  had  in  place  off  a  conclusion,  the 
firste,  for  the  daie,  the  seconde  for  peace,  the  laste  is  for  the 
obteininge  off  Grace.  Nowe,  the  eueninge  praiers  are  saide  in 

c 


XXX. 

a  manner  as  the  other  are,  sauinge,  that  after  the  firste  lessen 
foloweth  my  soule  doth  magnifie  the  lorde.  After  the  2.  lessen 
Now  Lorde,  &c.  and  in  steed  off  that  collect,  God  whiche  arte 
the  Author  off  peace,  is  vsed  o  God  from  whom  all  holie  de- 
siers,  &c.  besides,  there  is  caution  added  that  all  Ministers 
shall  exercise  them  selues  continually  aswell  in  morninge 
praiers  as  eueninge  praiers,  except  perhapp  by  studie  in  dyui- 
nitie  or  some  other  busynes,  they  be  greatly  and  necessarely 
let  or  hindred.  Besides,  vppon  euery  Sabothe  daie,  wensdaie 
and  fridaie  there  is  yet  in  vse  certeine  suffrages  deuised  off 
Pope  Gregory  whiche  beginnethe  after  this  manner.  O  God 
the  father  off  heauen  haue  mercy  vppon  vs  miserable  synners. 
O  God  the  sonne  redemer  off  the  worlde,  &c.  onely  leauinge 
owte  the  inuocation  off  saincts,  otherwise  we  vse  a  certaine 
coniuringe  off  God.  By  the  misterie  off  his  incarnation,  by 
his  holy  natiuitie  and  circumcision  by  his  baptisme,  fastinge 
and  temptation,  by  his  agonie  and  bloudie  sweate,  &c.  yea, 
it  comprehendethe  in  plaine  wordes  a  praier  to  be  deliuered 
from  suddain  deathe,  the  people  answeringe  to  the  ende 
off  euery  clause,  either  spare  vs  good  lorde,  or  ells,  Good 
Lorde  deliuer  vs,  or  we  beseche  thee  to  heare  vs  Good  Lorde. 
O  Lambe  off  God  that  taketh  awaie  the  sinnes  off  the  worlde 
is  thrise  repeated.  Then  Lorde  haue  mercy  vpon  vs  thrise, 
and  then  the  Lords  praier  with  this  praier  also,  o  Lord  deale 
not  with  vs  after  our  sinnes  to  the  same  adioined,  passinge 
ouer  some  things  least  we  shulde  seeme  to  syfte  all  those 
drosses  which  remaine  still  amonge  vs. 

Nowe  the  manner  off  the  supper  is  thus.  The  nomber 
off  three  at  the  leaste  is  counted  a  fitt  nomber  to  communi- 
cate, and  yet  it  is  permitted  (the  pestilence  or  some  other  com- 
mon siknes  beinge  amonge  the  people)  the  Minister  alone  maie 
communicate  withe  the  sicke  man  in  his  house.  First  ther- 
fore,  the  Minister  muste  be  prepared  after  this  manner,  in  a 
whit  lynnin  garmente  (as  in  sayinge  the  other  seruice  he  is 
apointed)  and  muste  itande  at  the  Northe  side  off  the  Table. 
Then  is  had  the  Lords  praier  after  the  custome,  then  he  re- 


XXXI. 

citeth  the  collect,  and  after  folowe  in  order  the  ten  commaunde- 
ments,  but  so  notwithstanding,  that  euery  one  off  the  people 
maye  answere ;  lorde  haue  mercy  vpon  vs  and  inclyne  oure 
hartes  to  keepe  this  lawe.  After  the  rehersall  off  the  com- 
mandements,  the  collect  off  the  daie  (as  it  is  called)  and  an 
other  for  the  kinge  is  had.  By  and  by  the  Epistle  and  Gos- 
pell  folowethe,  to  witt,  suche  as  the  callender  apointethe  for 
that  daie.  And  there  in  this  place  there  is  a  note,  that  euerie 
holy  daye  hathe  his  collect  Epistle  and  Gospell)  whiche  fill  75. 
great  leaues  off  the  booke,  when  the  reste  fill  scarse  fiftie.  For 
all  holy  daies  are  nowe  in  like  vse  as  were  amonge  the  Pa- 
pistes,  onelye  verye  fewe  excepted. 

Then  he  goethe  forwardes  to  the  crede  and  after  that  to 
the  sermon  (iff  there  be  anie)  Afterwardes  the  parishe  priest 
byddeth  the  holie  dayes  and  fastes  on  their  eues,  iff  there  be 
anye  that  weeke.  And  here  the  booke  warnethe  that  none  de- 
fraude  the  parishe  priest  off  his  due  or  right  specially  on  those 
feast  daies,  that  are  dedicated  to  offrings.  Then  foloweth 
a  praier  for  the  state  off  the  churche  militaunte,  and  that  not 
withowte  a  longe  heape  and  mixture  off  matters  vntill  they 
come  (after  a  certeine  confession  off  sinnes)  to  lift  vp  your 
hartes,  the  people  answeringe,  we  geue  thankes  to  the  lorde. 
Let  vs  geue  thanks  to  our  Lorde  God,  the  answer,  It  is  meete 
and  right  so  to  do.  It  is  verie  meete,  right  and  our  bownden 
dewtie,  &c.  vntill  they  come  to  that  clause :  O  Lorde  holie 
father,  &c.  and  so  the  preface  accordinge  to  the  feaste  is  added. 
Afterwards  he  saithe :  Therfore  withe  Angells  and  Archangells 
and  so  endethe  with  holy  holy  holy,  lord  god,  till  he  come  to 
hosianna  in  the  highest.  Nowe  the  priest  bowethe  his  knee 
acknowledginge  oure  vnworthynes  in  the  name  off  all  them 
that  shall  receiue.  And  settinge  owte  gods  mercye,  he  be- 
sechethe  God  that  oure  bodies  maye  be  made  cleane  by  his 
bodie  and  that  our  soules  maie  be  washed  through  his  bloude. 
And  then  he  againe  standeth  vp  and  takethe  in  hande  a  freshe 
an  other  praier  appointed  for  this  purpos,  in  which  are  con- 
teined  the  wordes  off  the  institution,  all  whiche  beinge  donnc, 

c  2 


XXXII. 

he  first  communicateth,  then,  by  and  by  he  saithe  to  an  other, 
knelinge,  Take,  and  eate  this  in  remembrance  that  Christ  died 
for  thee  and  feede  on  him  in  thy  harte  by  faithe  with  thanks 
geuinge. 

Now  abowte  thende  the  Lordes  praier  is  vsed  againe,  the 
Minister  sayinge  it  alowde  and  all  the  people  folowinge,  to 
conclude,  they  haue  a  geuinge  off  thanks  in  thende,  withe 
Glory  to  god  in  the  highest,  as  it  was  vsed  amonge  the  Pa- 
pistes,  yff  it  happen  that  there  be  no  sermon,  onely  a  fewe 
thinges  are  omitted,  but  all  other  thinges  are  donne  in  order 
aforesaid. 

In  baptisme  the  Godfathers  are  demaunded  in  the  name 
off  the  childe,  wither  they  renownce  the  deuell  and  all  his 
workes,  the  lustes  off  the  worlde,  &c.  and  they  answere  I 
renownce  them.  Then,  wither  they  belieue  the  Artikles  off  the 
faithe,  whiche  beinge  confessed,  wilte  thow  (saith  he  turninge 
himself  to  bothe  the  witnesses,  be  baptized  into  this  faithe  ? 
and  they  saie  yea,  I  will.  After  a  fewe  thinge  rehersed,  he 
takethe  the  Child  and  dippeth  it  in,  but  warely  and  discretly 
as  it  is  in  the  booke,  vppon  whose  forehead  also  he  shall  make 
a  crosse  in  token  forsoothe  that  when  he  is  olde  he  shall  not  be 
ashamed  to  confesse  the  faithe  off  Christe  Crucified.  After- 
ward, sendinge  awaie  the  Godfathers  and  Godmothers,  he 
chargeth  them  that  they  bringe  the  childe  to  be  confirmed  off 
the  Bishopp  as  sone  as  he  can  saie  the  Articles  off  the  faithe, 
the  lordes  praier,  and  the  ten  Comaundemets.  And  seinge 
there  be  many  causes,  as  the  booke  saithe,  whiche  shulde  moue 
them  to  the  Confirmation  off  Children,  this,  forioothe,  off 
all  others  is  the  waightiest,  that  by  imposition  off  hands  they 
maie  receiue  strenght  and  defence  against  all  temptations  off 
sinne,  and  the  assaults  off  the  world  and  the  deuell,  bicause 
that  when  Children  come  to  that  age,  partlie,  by  the  frailtie 
off  their  owne  fleshe,  partly,  by  the  assaults  off'  the  worlde 
and  the  deuell  they  beginn  to  be  in  daunger :  And  leaste  anie 
shulde  think  any  error  to  be  in  this  Confirmation,  therfore 
they  take  a  certeine  pamflett  off  a  Catechisme,  which  con- 


XXXIII. 

sisteth  off  the  Articles  off  the  faithe,  the  Lordes  praier,  and 
ten  commandements,  and  all  this  is  dispatched  in  lesse  then 
two  leaues. 

To  these  is  ioyned  their  manner  off  Mariage  off  whiche 
that  we  maie  passeouer  many  petty  ceremonies  these  follies 
who  can  suffer  ?  The  husbande  laithe  downe  a  ringe  vpon  the 
booke,  whiche  the  minister  takinge,  he  geuethe  it  in  his  hande 
and  biddethe  him  to  put  it  on  the  fourth  finger  off  his  wiues 
left  hande,  Then  he  vsethe  this  forme  off  wordes  :  withe  this 
ringe  (saithe  he)  I  thee  wedd,  withe  my  body  I  thee  worship 
withe  all  my  worldly  goods  I  thee  endue.  In  the  name  off 
the  father,  the  sonne,  and  the  holy  ghoste. 

A  litle  after  the  Minister  saithe  to  the  newe  maried  persons 
knelinge  before  the  lordes  table  :  Lorde  haue  mercy  vppon  vs 
Christ  haue  mercy  vpon  vs,  Lorde  haue  mercy  vppon  vs. 
Oure  father  which  arte,  &c.  Lorde  saue  thy  seruannt  and  thy 
handmaide,  &c.  and  so  a  few  things  beinge  rehersed  they 
muste  be  brought  to  the  Lordes  supper.  Tlje  visitation  off  the 
sicke  is  after  this  manner.  Peace  be  to  this  howse.  The  an- 
swere,  and  to  all  that  dwell  in  the  same.  Lorde  haue  mercy 
vpon  vs,  &c.  our  father,  &c.  Lorde  saue  thy  seruannte.  An- 
swere,  whiche  trustethe  in  thee.  Sende  forthe  thy  helpe  from 
thy  holy  hil,  and  withe  spede  saue  him,  &c.  as  in  the  other 
prefaces  withe  questions  and  answers.     Off  the  Buriall. 

The  Priest  meetethe  the  Corse  at  the  entraunce  off  the 
churcheyarde  either  singing  or  softly  pronouncinge,  I  am 
the  Resurrection  and  the  liffe,  &c.  I  knowe  that  my  re- 
demer  lyuethe.  Job.  19.  beinge  comme  to  the  graue  it  is 
sayed.  Man  borne  off  a  woman  Job.  9.  When  the  earthe  is 
throwen  in,  we  committ  (saithe  he)  earthe  to  earthe,  duste 
to  duste,  &c.  The  Lorde  hathe  geuen,  the  Lorde  hathe  taken, 
I  harde  a  voice  from  heauen,  sayenge,  Blessed  are  the  dead 
whiche  die  in  the  Lorde.     Lorde  haue  mercy  vppon  vs,  &c. 

The  purification  of  women  in  childbed,   whiche   they  call 
c  3 


Knox  and 
Whitt 


XXXIIII. 

geuinge  off  thankes,  is  not  only  in  all  things  withe  vs  almoste 
common  withe  the  Papistes  but  also  with  the  Jewes,  bycause 
they  are  commaunded  in  stede  off  a  lambe  or  doue  to  offre 
monie. 

Other  thinges,  not  so  muche  shame  it  selff,  as  a  certeine 
inpham  kinde  off  pitie  compelleth  vs  to  keepe  close,  in  the  meane  sea- 
toopstome  son  notninge  diminishinge  the  honor  due  to  those  reuerende 
things.  men,  who  partely  beinge  hindred  by  those  times,  and  by  the 
obstinacie  and  also  multitude  off  aduersaries  (to  whom  no- 
thinge  was  euer  delightfull  besides  their  owne  corruptions) 
beinge  as  it  were  ouerflowen,  did  alwaies  in  their  minde 
continually  as  muche  as  they  coulde  striue  to  more  perfect 
thinges. 

Note,  that  this  description  is  verye  favourably  put 
downe,  yf  ye  conferre  it  with  the  Booke  off  order  in  all 
points,  and  the  vsage  off  the  booke  in  many  churches  of 
.  this  realme  yow  can  confesse  no  lesse.  And  hereoff  ye 
male  gather  what  M.  Caluin  woulde  haue  written,  yf  they 
had  noted  all  the  abuses  of  the  same. 

The   answere   and    Iudgemente   off  that   famous    and 

excellent  lerned  man  Maister  Iohn  Caluin  the  late  Pastor 

off  Geneua,  touchinge  the  booke  off  Englande  after 

that  he  had  perused  the  same  faithfully 

translated  owte   off  Latten    by 

maister  Whittingham. 

To  the  godly  and  lerned  men  Maister  Iohn  Knox,  and 
Maister  William  Whittingham,  his  faithfull  brethern  at 
Frankford  &c. 

This  thinge  trulie  greuethe  me  very  muche,  and  it  is  a 
great  shame  that  contention  shulde  arise  amonge  brethern 
banished  and  driuen  owte  of  their  countrie  for  one  faithe,  and 


XXXV. 

for  that  cause  whiche  onely  ought  to  haue  holden  yow  bounde 
together  as  it  were  withe  an  holy  bande  in  this  your  disper- 
sion. For  what  might  yow  do  better  in  this  dolorous  and 
miserable  plage,  then  (beinge  pulled  violently  from  your  coun- 
trie)  to  procure  your  selues  a  church,  whiche  shulde  receiue  ad 
nourishe  yow  (beinge  ioyned  together  in  mindes  and  languadge) 
in  her  motherly  lappe.  But  nowe  for  some  men  to  striue  as 
touchinge  the  forme  off  praier  and  for  Ceremonies  as  though 
ye  were  at  reste  and  prosperitie,  and  to  suffer  that  to  be  an 
impedimente  that  ye  cannot  there  ioyne  in  to  one  body  off  the 
churche  (as  I  think)  it  is  to  muche  owte  off  season. 

Yet  notwithstanding,  I  allowe  their  constancie  whiche  striue 
for  a  iuste  cause  beinge  forced  againste  their  willes  vnto  con- 
tention. I  do  worthely  condemne  frowardnes,  whiche  dothe 
hinder  and  staie  the  holye  carefullnes  of  reforminge  the 
churche. 

And  as  I  behaue  myselff  gentle  and  tractable  in  meane 
things  (as  extemall  ceremonies)  So  doo  I  not  alwaies  iudge 
it  profitable,  to  geue  place  to  their  folishe  stowtenes,  whiche 
will  forsake  nothinge  off  their  oulde  wonted  custome.      In  the 
liturgie  off  Englande,  I  se  that  there  were  manye  tollerable 
foolishe  thinges,  by  theis  wordes  I  meane,  that  there  was  not 
that  puritie  whiche  was  to  be  desired.     Theis  vices,  thoughe  Many  tol- 
they  coulde  not  at  the  firste  daie  be  amended,  yet,  seinge j;'H'j ;','/,,. 
there  was  no  manifeste  impetie,  they  were  for  a  season  to  be  jjj^j 
tollerated.     Therfore,  it  was  lawfull  to  begin  off  suche  nidi-  '/,,,  Caluins 
mentes  or  absedaries,  but  so,  that  it  behoued  the  lerned,  graue,  »«<</'""  "• 
and  godly  ministers  off  Christe  to  enterprise  farther,  and  to 
set  foorthe  some  thinge  more  filed  from  ruste,  and  purer.     Yf 
godly  Religion  had  florished  till  this  daie  in  Englande,  there 
ought  to  haue  bin  a  thinge  better  corrected  and  manie  thinges 
cleane  taken  awaie.     Nowe,  when  theis  principles  be  ouer 
throwne,  a  churche  muste  be  set  vp  in  an  other  place,  where 
ye  maie  freely  make  an  order  againe,  whiche  shall  be  apparent 
to  be.moste  commoditious  to  the  vse  and  edification  off  the 
churche.     I  cannot  tell  what  they  meane  whiche  so  greatly 

c  4 


XXXVI. 

delite  in   the  leauinges  off  Popishe  dregges.     They  loue  the 
thinges  wherunto  they  are  accustomed.     Firste  off  all,  this  is 

triflin^d  a  thinge  bothe   triflinge   and  Childishe.      Furthermore,   this 

CMdishe    newe  order  farre  difFereth  from  a  chaunge. 

'ZhifmTnt.  Therfore»  as  I  woulde  not  haue  yow  feirse  ouer  them  whose 
infirmitie  will  not  suffer  to  ascend  an  higher  steppe :  so 
woulde  I  aduertise  other,  that  they  please  not  them  selues  to 
muche  in  their  foolishnes.  Also,  that  by  their  frowardnes, 
they  doo  not  let  the  course  off  the  holie  buildinge.  Laste  off 
all,  least  that  foolishe  vaine  glorie  steale  them  awaie.  For 
what  cause  haue  they  to  contende,  excepte  it  be  for  that  they 
are  ashamed  to  geue  place  to  better  tinges.  But  I  speake  in 
vaine  to  them  whiche  perchaunce  esteeme  me  not  so  well,  as 
they  will  vouchsaffe  to  admitt  the  consaile  that  commethe  from 
suche  an  authour.  If  they  feare  the  evell  rumor  in  Englande, 
as  though  they  had  fallen  from  that  Religion  which  was  the 
cause  off  their  banishment,  they  are  farre  decerned  for  this 
true  and  sincere  Religion,  will  rather  compell  them  that  theire 
remaine,  faithfully  to  consider  in  to  what  deepe  gulff  they 
haue  fallen.  For  there  dow7nefall  shall  more  greuously  wounde 
them,  when  they  perceyue  your  goinge  forewarde  beionde 
mid  course,  from  the  whiche  they  are  turned.  Fare  ye  well 
dearely  beloued  brethern,  and  faithfull  seruants  off  Christe. 
the  Lorde  defende  and  gouerne  yow  from  Geneua  this  20.  off 
Ian.  Anno.  1555. 

Your  Iohn  Caluin. 

When  this  letter  of  Caluins  was  redd  to  them  of  the  con- 
gregation, it  so  wrought  in  the  hartes  off  many,  that  they 
were  not  before  so  stowte  to  maintaine  all  the  partes  off  the 
boke  off  England  as  afterward  they  were  bent  against  it.  But 
nowe  to  returne.  Whiles  these  things  were  in  doyinge,  the 
congregation  (as  yow  haue  harde  afore)  coulde  not  agree  vpon 
anie  certeine  order,  till  after  longe  debatinge  to  and  fro,  it 
was  concluded,  that  maister  Knox,  maister  Whittingham, 
Maister  Gilby,   Maister  Fox  and   Maister   T.   Cole   shulde 


XXXVII. 

drawe  forthe  some  order  meete  for  their  state  and  time  :  whiche 
thinge  was  by  them  accomplished  and  offred  to  the  congre- 
gation (beinge  the  same  order  off  Geneua  whiche  is  nowe  in 
print)  This  order  was  verie  well  liked  off  many,  but  suche  as 
were  bent  to  the  booke  off  Englande  coulde  not  abide  it,  yea, 
cotention  grewe  at  lenght  so  hot,  and  the  one  partye  whicli 
sought  sinceritie,   so  sore   charged,  with  newfanglednes  and 
singularitie  and  to  be  the  stirrers  of  c5tention  and  vnquietnes, 
that  Maister   Gilby  with   a  godly  grieff  (as   well    apeared)  TU  hum- 
kneled  downe  before  them  and  besought  them  (withe  teares)  mhy  °and 
to  reforme  their  iudgementes,  solemelie  protestinge,  that  (in  ]l^d/'' 
this  matter)  they  sought  not  themselues,  but  onely  the  glorie  v 
off  god,  as  he  was  verely  perswaded,  wishinge  farther  that 
that  hande  whiche  he  then  helde  vp  were  stricken  of  if  by  that 
a  godly  peace  and  vnitie  might  ensue  and  followe.     In  thende 
an  other  waie  was  taken  by  the  congregation,  whiche  was, 
that  maister  Knox  and  maister  whittingham,  Maister  parry 
and  Maister  leauer_shulde  deuise  some  order  yff  it  might  be, 
to  ende  all  strifFand  contention. 

Thies  4.  assembled  for  that  purpos.  And  first,  Maister  Themo- 
Knox  spake  to  the  reste  in  this  wise.  For  so  muche,  (saithe  '£,,'',  y 
he)  as  I  perceiue,  that  no  ende  of  cotention  is  to  be  hoped  for, 
vnlesse  the  one  parte  somethinge  relent,  this  will  I  doo  for  my 
parte,  that  quietnes  maie  insue.  I  will  shewe  my  iudgement 
howe  (as  I  think)  it  maie  be  beste  for  the  edification  off  this 
poore  flocke,  whiche  if  ye  will  not  accepte,  nor  followe  (after 
that  I  haue  discharged  my  conscience)  I  will  cease  and  comit 
the  whole  matter  to  be  ordered  by  yow  as  yow  will  answere 
before  Christ  Iesus  at  the  laste  daie,  and  to  this  his  congregation 
in  this  liflfe,  &c.  Wherupon  after  some  conference,  an  order 
was  agreed  vpo  :  some  parte  take  forthe  of  the  Englishe  booke 
and  other  things  put  to,  as  the  state  of  that  churche  required. 

And  this  order  by  the  consent  of  the  cogregation  shulde  FAwpnk. 
continewe  to  the  laste  of  Aprill  folowing.  yff  anie  contention  )™*£\ %' 
shulde  arise  in  the  meane  time,  the  matter  then  to  be  deter-  Feb. 
mined  by  theis  5.  notable  lerned  me,  to  wete,  Caluin,  Musculus 

c  5 


XXXVIII. 


come  to 
Frank/. 


Theffiscte 

of  Knox 
sermon. 


Martyr,  Bullinger,  and  Vyret.  This  agremente  was  put  in 
wrytinge.  To  that  all  gaue  their  consentes.  This  daie  was 
ioyfull.  Thanckes  were  geue  to  God,  brotherly  reconciliation 
folowed,  great  familiaritie  vsed,  the  former  grudges  seemed  to 
be  forgotten.  Yea  the  holie  communion  was  vppon  this  happie 
agremente,  also  ministred.  And  this  frindshipp  continued 
wtihrthers  tiU  tbe  13,  off  March  folowinge,  at  whiche  tyme  D.  Coxe  and 
others  with  him  came  to  Frankford  owte  off  Englande,  who 
began  to  break  that  order  whiche  was  agreed  vppon,  firste  in 
answeringe  alowde  after  the  minister,  contrary  to  the  churches 
determination,  and  beinge  admonished  theroff,  by  the  Seniors 
off  the  congregation,  he,  with  the  rest  that  came  withe  him 
made  answere,  that  they  woulde  do  as  they  had  donne  in 
Englande,  and  that  they  would  haue  the  face  off  an  English 
churche.  And  the  sundaie  folowinge,  one  off  his  company 
withowt  the  consent  and  knowledg  off  the  congregation  gate 
vpp  suddainly  into  the  pulpit,  redd  the  lettany,  and  D.  Cox 
withe  his  companie  answered  alowde,  wherby  the  determina- 
tion off  the  churche  was  broken.  The  same  sundaie  at  after 
noone  it  came  to  maister  Knox  his  turne  to  preache,  who 
hauinge  passed  so  farre  in  Gen.  that  he  was  come  to  Noah  as 
he  laie  open  in  his  tente,  he  spake  theis  wordes  folowinge. 

As  diuers  thinges  (saithe  he)  ought  to  be  kepte  secret, 
euenso  suche  thinges  as  end  to  the  dishonor  off  God  and  dis- 
quieting of  his  churche  ought  to  be  disclosed  and  openly  re- 
proued.  And  therupon  he  shewed,  howe  that  after  longe 
trouble  and  contention  amonge  them,  a  godly  agremente  was 
made,  and  howe  that  the  same,  that  daie  was  vngodly  broken, 
whiche  thinge,  became  not  (as  he  saied)  the  prowdest  off  them 
all  to  haue  attepted,  alleadginge  furthermore  that  like  as  by 
the  worde  off  God  we  muste  seeke  oure  warrant  for  the  esta- 
blishing off  religion,  and  withowt  that  to  thruste  nothinge 
into  anie  Christian  congregation  :  so  for  as  muche  as  in  the 
Englishe  booke  were  thinges  bothe  superstitious,  vnpure,  and 
vnperfect  (which  he  offred  to  proue  before  all  men)  he  would 
not  consent  that  off  that  churche  it  shulde  be  receiued,  and 


XXXIX. 

that  in  case  men  woulde  go  abowte  to  burthen  that  free  con- 
gregation therwith,  so  ofte  as  he  shulde  come  in  that  place 
(the  texte  offringe  occasion)  he  woulde  not  faile  to  speak 
againste  it. 

He  farther  affirmed  that  amonge  manye  thinges  whiche 
prouoked  godds  anger  againste  Englade,  slacknes  to  reforme 
religion  (when  tyme  and  place  was  graunted)  was  one.  And 
therfore  it  became  them  to  be  circiispecte,  howe  they  laid  their 
foundation.  And  where  some  men  ashamed  not  to  saie,  that 
there  was  no  let  or  stopp  in  Englande,  but  that  Religion  might 
be,  and  was  already  brought  to  perfection,  he  proued  the 
contrary,  by  the  wante  off  discipline.  Also  by  the  troubles 
which  maister  Hooper  Sustained,  for  the  Rochet  and  such 
like,  in  the  booke  commanded  and  allowed. 

And  for  that  one  man  was  permitted  to  haue  3.  4.  or  5. 
benefices  to  the  great  slaunder  off  the  gospell  and  defraudinge 
off  the  flock  off  Christe  off  their  liuely  foode  and  sustenaunce. 
These  were  the  chieff  notes  off  his  sermon,  whiche  was  so 
stomaked  off  some,  especially  off  suche  as  had  many  liuinges 
in  Englande,  that  he  was  verye  sharplie  charged,  and  reproued 
so  soone  as  he  came  owte  off  the  pulpit,  for  the  same. 

The  twesdaie  folowinge,  was  appointed  to  talke  off  thies  y,  (    , 
thinges  more  at  large.    When  all  were  assembled  earneste  re-  gjjgfj^ 
queste  was  made  that  D.  Coxe  with  his  companie  might  be 
admitted  to  haue  voices  in  the  congregation.     Answere  was 
made  by  others  that  the  matter  yet  in  controuersie  amonge 
them,  ought  firste  to  be  determined,  Sec5dly,  that  they  shuld 
subscribe  to  discipline  as  others  had  don  before  them,  and  far- 
ther yt  was  greatly  suspected  that  they  had  byn  (some  off  Bui  that 
them)  at  masse  in  Englande,   and  others  had  subscribed  to  jjjf^i 
wicked  articles,  as  one  off  them  shortly  after  euen  in  the  pulpit  ^  ;;;<''' 
sorowfully  confessed.    For  theis  considerations  and  suche  like, 
The  congregation  withstoode  the  admission  off  D.  Coxe  and 
his  companie.     Knox  at  laste,  began  to  make  intretie  that  they 
might  haue  their  voices  amonge  the  reste,  to  whose  requeste  M.  i 
when  certeine  had  yelded,  they  then  became  the  greater  parte 

c  6 


XL. 

and  so  were  by  them  admitted  as  members  off  the  churche. 
They  thus  admitted,  by  the  moste  parte.  D.  Coxe  foorthwith 
forbad  Knox  to  meddle  anye  more  in  that  congregation. 
Knox  put-  The  nexte  daie  beinge  wensdaie,  whittingham  wente  to 
thosewkich  Maister  Iohn  Glauburge  (who  was  the  chief!  meane  in  ob- 
UbrougU  taininge  the  cliurche)  and  brake  the  matter  vnto  him,  declar- 
inge,  howe  that  certeine,  nowe  come  owte  off  Englande  had 
forbidden  their  minister  apointed,  to  preache  that  daie,  and  in- 
tended to  set  vpp  an  other,  whiche  he  dowted  woulde  not  be 
well  taken.  And  therfore,  leaste  anie  inconuenience  shulde 
happe,  he  thought  good  to  make  him  priuie  therto.  Wher- 
upon  the  saied  Magistrat  sent  immediatlie  and  gaue  comaunde- 
ment  that  ther  shulde  be  no  sermon  that  daie.  Afterwarde 
he  sent  for  Valeran  the  Frenche  Minister,  commaundinge  him 
that  2.  lerned  men  shulde  be  appointed  off  either  parte,  and 
that  he  and  they  shulde  consulte  and  agree  vppon  some  good 
ordre,  and  to  make  report  vnto  him  accordingly.  Then  were 
apointed  D.  Cox  and  leuer  off  the  one  side  and  knox  and  whit- 
tingham on  the  other  side  To  decide  the  matter.  Valeran  was 
appointed  to  put  downe  in  writinge  what  they  shulde  agree 
vpon.  But  when  in  this  conference,  they  came  to  the  order  off 
Mattins  and  that  D.  Coxe  saide,  Ego  volo  habere,  there  coulde 
be  no  agrement  amonge  them,  and  so  brake  off,  wherupon  the 
congregation  drew  vp  a  supplication  in  latten  and  presented  it 
to  the  saied  maister  Glauburge  requestinge  him  to  be  a  meane 
that  the  same  might  be  considered  off  amonge  the  Senators. 
The  Englishe  wheroff  was  as  folowethe. 

The  supplication  to  the  Senate. 

Let  it  not  molest  yow  (moste  graue  and  worthie  Senators) 
that  your  affayers  are  letted  with  a  fewe  wordes.  And 
leaste  we  shulde  trouble  yow  with  prolixitie,  yow  shall  vn- 
derstande  the  matter  briefly.  When  your  great  and  vnspeak- 
able  humanitie,  through  the  prouidence  of  god  had  graunted 
vs  a  churche,  we    vndertooke    forthwith  (as  became  vs)  to 


XLI. 

consul te  abovvte  the  orders  off  the  same,  and  to  set  out 
a  Liturgie.  And  bicause  we  savve  that  in  the  prolixe  and 
Ceremonious  booke  of  the  liturgie  of  Englande,  be  manie 
thinges  (that  we  maie  speake  no  worse  off  it)  not  moste  per- 
fecte,  it  seemed  beste  to  reduce  it  to  the  perfecte  rule  off 
the  scriptures  and  to  accommodate  our  selues  to  the  en- 
samples  off  that  churche  where  in  we  teache,  and  to  whom 
we  haue  subscribed.  But  when  this  enterprise  offended 
some  off  oure  countriemen  (althoughe  the  greatest  nomber 
agreed  vnto  vs)  for  that  we  woulde  decline  from  the  decrees  To  weet, 
off  our  elders,  here  vppon  there  grewe  to  vs  for  a  fewe  ^urd^!" 
monethes  no  small  trouble. 

At  the  lenght,  whe  there  appeared  no  ende,  for  peace  and 
Concordes  sake  we  gaue  place  to  their  will,  and  suffred  them 
at  their  pleasure  to  pike  owte  off  their  booke  the  chiefest  or 
beste  thinges  vpon  this  condition  that  the  same  shulde  con- 
tinewe  with  owte  alteration,  at  the  leaste,  vnto  the  laste  daie 
off  Aprill,  at  the  whiche  daie  (iff  there  shulde  anie  newe  con- 
tention arise)  that  then  all  the  matter  shulde  be  referred  to 
these  5.  notable  men,  Calvin,  Musculus,  Martir,  Bullinger, 
and  Viret.  What  nedethe  manie  wordes.  This  condition 
was  willingly  accepted,  and  the  couenaunte  rated  on  bothe 
partes.  A  writinge  was  also  theroff  to  testifie  the  promesse 
made  off  the  one  to  the  other.  Moreouer  thankes  were  geuen 
to  god  withe  great  ioye,  and  common  praiers  were  made,  for 
that  men  thought  that  daie  to  be  thende  off  discorde.  Be- 
sides this,  they  receyued,  the  communion  as  the  sure  token, 
or  seale  off  their  mutuall  agremente,  whiche  was  omitted 
before,  by  the  space  off  3.  monethes.  Valaran  also  the  frenche 
Minister  was  partaker  off  this  communion  and  a  furtherer 
off  concorde  and  a  wittnes  off  theis  thinges.  Nowe  of  late 
daies,  certeine  of  our  countreymen  came  to  vs  who  haue  in- 
deuored  by  all  meanes  to  obtrude  that  huge  volume  off  cere- 
monies vpon  vs  to  break  the  couenaunte  and  to  ouerthrough 
the  libertie  off  the  Churche  graunted  by  your  beneuolence. 
And  no  dowte,  this  they  enterprise  and  minde  to  do  vnder 


XLII. 

the  title  and  name  off  your  defence,  Wherby  they  maie  abuse 
the  authoritie  off  your  name  to  satisfie  their  luste.  We  are 
here  copelied  to  omitte  manie  thinges  whiche  woulde  make  for 
oure  cause,  no  lesse  rightly  then  profitably,  but  we  remit  thies 
to  oure  brethern  for  Concordes  sake. 

Yovv  haue  here,  moste  honorable  Sen.  a  brieff  summe  of 
oure  case,  and  contention,  wherby  yow  may  easilie  vnderstande, 
what  to  iudge  off  the  whole  matter. 

What   manner  off  Booke  this  is  for  the  whiche    they  so 

The  letter   cruellie  contende,  ye  maie  consider  by  the  Epistle  that  Caluin 

'fjrfebe'   lately  wrote  vnto  vs,  in  the  whiche  he  hathe   signified  his 

minde,  as  well  plainly  off  the  booke,  as  also  off  the  vpright- 

nesse  off  oure  cause.     We  coulde  haue  pointed  owte  vnto  yow 

the  foolishe  and  fonde  things  off  the  booke,  but  passinge  ouer 

an  infinite  nomber  off  thinges,  this  one  will  we   bringe  for 

manie   the    whiche     shalbe   neces|arie  well    to  be    marked. 

within  these  three  yeres  arose  a  great  conflicte  betweene  the 

Bishopps   off  the    realme   and   the    Bishoppe   off  Glocester 

This  eon-    Maister  Hooper,  a  man  worthie  off  perpetuall  memorie,  whom 

S?t  we  heare  to  be  burned  off  late'  This  man  beinge  made 
sitkins  Bishopp  By  kinge  Edwarde,  there  was  obtruded  by  other 
Edward  B.  off  the  same  order  (accordinge  to  this  booke)  a  rochet,  and 
his  raiyne  a  bishops  robe  this  man  being  well  lerned  and  a  longe  tyme 
nourished  and  brought  vp  in  Germany,  as  soone  as  he  refused 
thies  proud  thinges  that  fooles  marvell  at,  he  was  caste  into 
prison  and  at  lenght  by  their  importunitie  ouercome,  and 
relentinge,  he  was  compelled  to  his  shame  to  geue  place  to 
their  impudency  withe  the  common  grieff  and  sorowe  off  all 
godlye  mindes. 

But  wherfore  speake  yow  off  theis  thinges  will  yow  saie, 
that  apperteneth  nothinge  to  vs  ?  yes  verely,  we  thinke  it 
touchethe  yow  verie  moche,  for  yff  thies  men  armed  by  your 
authoritie  shall  do  what  they  liste,  this  euell  shalbe  in  time 
established  by  yow  and  neuer  be  redressed,  nether  shall  there 
for  euer  be  anie  ende  off  this  controuersie  in  Englande.  But 
yff  it  woulde  please  your  honorable  authoritie  to  decree  this 
moderation  betweene  vs,  that  this  whole  matter  may  be  referred 


as  ye  se. 


XLIII. 

to  the  iudgements  off  the  fiue  aboue  named  not  we  alone  that 
are  here  present,  but  oure  whole  posteritie,  yea  oure  whole 
englishe  nation,  and  all  good  men,  to  the  perpetuall  memorie 
off  your  names,  shalhe  bownde  vnto  yow  for  this  great 
benefit.  We  might  haue  vsed  moo  wordes  in  this  narration, 
for  we  feared  not,  that  we  shulde  lake  reasons,  but  rather  that 
tyme  shulde  faile  yow,  letted  with  more  serious  busines. 
Therfore,  we  by  theis  thinges,  leaue  the  reste  to  the  considera- 
tion ofF  your  wisdomes. 

The  22.  off  Marche  maister  Glauburge  came  to  the  En- 
glishe Churche  and  shewed  the  congregation,  that  it  was 
commaunded  them,  by  the  magistrates  (when  by  his  procure- 
ment the  church  was  graunted)  that  they  shulde  agree  withe 
the  frenche  churche  bothe  in  Doctrine  and  ceremonies,  and 
that  they  vnderstood  howe  the  fallinge  from  that  order  had 
bred  muche  dissention  amonge  them.  Therfore,  he  straitly 
charged  and  commaunded  that  from  thenc  foorthe  they  shulde 
not  dissent  from  that  order,  yff  they  did,  as  he  had  opened 
the  churche  dore  vnto  them,  so  woulde  he  shutte  it  againe. 
And  that  suche  as  woulde  not  obey  therunto  shulde  not  tarie 
within  that  citie,  willinge  them  to  consulte  together  owte  off 
hande  and  to  geue  him  an  answere  before  he  departed.  D. 
Coxe,  then  spake  to  the  congregation  in  this  wise,  I  haue 
(saithe  he)  redd  the  frenche  order  and  do  thinke  it  to  be  bothe 
good  and  godly  in  all  pointes,  and  therfore  wished  them  to 
obaie  the  magistrates  commaundement,  wherupon  the  whole 
congregation  gaue  consent,  so  as  before  the  Magistrate  de- 
parted the  churche,  D.  Coxe,  leuer,  and  whittingham  made 
reporte  vnto  him  accordingly.  D.  Coxe  also  at  that  presente 
requested  that  it  woulde  please  him,  notwithstandinge  their 
ill  behauiour,  to  shewe  vnto  them  his  accustomed  fauor  and 
goodnesse,  whiche  he  moste  iently  and  louinglie  promised. 

At  the  nexte  meetinge  off  the  congregation  that  order  was 
put  in  practise,  to  the  comforte  and  reioycinge  off  the  moste 
parte.  Neuertheles,  suche  as  woulde  so  faine  haue  had  the 
booke  of  England,  lefte  not  the  matter  thus.  And  for  that  they 


cused  off 
treason. 


XLIIII. 

sawe  Knox  to  be  in  suche  credit  withe  many  off  the  congre- 
gation, they  firste  off  all  assaied  by  a  moste  cruell  barbarous 
and  bloudie  practise  to  dispatche  him  owte  off  the  waie,  to 
thende  they  might  withe  more  ease  attaine  the  thinge  whiche 
they  so  gredely  sought,  whiche  was  the  placinge  of  their 
booke.  They  had  amonge  them  a  booke  off  his  intituled  an 
admonition  to  Christians  written  in  the  English  tonge,  wherin 
by  occasion  he  spake  off  the  Emperour,  off  Philip  his  sonne, 
and  off  Marie  then  Queene  off  Englande.  This  booke  cer- 
teine  off  them  presented  to  the  Magistrates,  who  (vpon  re- 
ceipte  off  the  same)  sente  for  whittingham  and  asked  him  off 
Knox  their  Minister,  what  manner  off  man  he  was  :  whitting- 
ham answered  that  suche  a  one  their  was  amonge  them  and  to 
Knox  ac-  his  knowledge  bothe  a  lerned,  wise,  graue  and  godly  man. 
Then  one  off  the  Magistrates  saied  vnto  him,  certaine  off  your 
countrie  men  haue  accused  him  vnto  vs  Lcesce  Maiestatis  Im- 
peratorice,  that  is  off  hightreason  againste  the  Emperour,  his 
The  places  sone,  and  the  Queene  off  England,  here  is  the  booke,  and 
inattwere  ^  piaces  wniche  they  haue  noted,  the  true  and  perfect  sence 
wheroff  we  commaunde  yow  ( sub  pena  pads)  to  bringe  vnto 
vs  in  the  latten  tonge  at  one  off  the  clock  in  the  after  noone, 
which  thinge  he  did  accordingly,  at  whiche  time  (after  certeine 
communication  amonge  themselues,  they  commanded  that 
Knox  shulde  preache  no  more  till  their  pleasure  were  farther 
knowen.  The  wordes  concerninge  the  Emperour  were  theis, 
spoken  in  the  pulpit  in  a  Towne  off  Buchingham  sheere  in 
the  beginninge  off  Queene  Maries  raigne,  as  by  the  saied 
booke  apearethe  where  it  is  saied  :  O  Englande  Englande,  yff 
thow  wylte  obstinately  returne  into  Egipte,  that  is,  yff  thow 
cotracte  mariage,  confederacy,  or  leage  with  suche  princes  as 
doo  maintaine  and  aduaunce  ydolatrie,  suche  as  the  Em- 
perour (who  is  no  lesse  enemie  to  Christ  then  was  Nero)  yff 
for  the  pleasure  and  frindship  (T  saie)  of  such  princes  thow 
returne  to  thine  oulde  abhominations  before  vsed  vnder  Pa- 
pistery  :  then  assuredly  (O  England)  thow  shalt  be  plaged  and 
brought  to  desolation  by  the  meanes  off  those  whose  fauour 


XLV. 

thow  sekeste,  and  by  whom  thow  arte  procured  to  fall  from 
Christe  and  seme  antechriste.  There  were  other  8.  places, 
but  this  was  most  noted,  in  that  it  touched  the  Emperour. 
But  it  seemed  the  magistrates  abhorred  this  bloudly,  cruel), 
and  outragious  attempt,  for  that  when  as  certeine  off  Knox  his 
enemies  folowed  hardly  the  Magistrates  to  knowe  what  shuld 
be  donne  with  him,  they  did  not  onely  shewe  most  euident 
signes  of  dislikinge  their  vnnaturall  suite,  but  also  sent  for 
maister  Williams  and  Whittingham,  willinge  them,  that  maister 
Knox  shuld  departe  the  City.  For  otherwise,  (as  they  saide)  ^|j^ 
they  shuld  be  forced  to  deliuer  him,  yff  the  Emperour  his  off  Knox. 
counsaile  (whiche  then  lay  at  Ausburge)  shuld  vppon  like  in- 
formation send  for  him. 

The  25  off  marche  maister  Knox  the  night  before  his  de- 
parture made  a  moste  comfortable  sermon  at  his  lodginge  to 
50.  persons  or  there  abowte,  then  present,  which  sermo  was  of 
the  deathe  and  resurrection  off  Christe,  and  of  the  vnspeakable 
ioyes  whiche  were  prepared  for  Goddes  electe,  whiche  in 
this  liffe  suffre  trouble  and  persecution  for  the  testimonie  off 
his  blessed  name.  The  next  daie  he  was  brought  3.  or  4.  mile 
in  his  waie  by  some  off  those  vnto  whom  the  night  before,  he 
had  made  that  exhortation,  who  with  great  heauines  off  harte 
and  plentie  off  teares  comitted  him  to  the  lorde. 

The  verie  same  daie  beinge  the  26.  off  marche  one  Adul-  Mam  off 
phus  Glauburge  (A  Doctor  off  lawe  and  nephew  to  Maister  mcn  were 
Iohn  Glauburge  the  Senator)  whom  D.  Cox  and  the  rest  had^c^ 
wonne  vnto  them,  sent  for  wittin^ham^   and  tolde  him   that  places. 
there  were  presented  to  the  Magistrates  thre  Docters,   13. 
batchelers  off  deuinitie  besides  others,  and  that  the  magistrates 
at  their  suites  had  graunted  them  the  full  vse  off  the  Englishe 
booke  comaunding  and  charginge  him  therfore  not  to  medle 
any  more  to  the  contrary,  for  (as  he  saied)  it  was  fullie  con- 
cluded that  so  it  shuld  be.     And  supposing  that  Whittingha  This  Adul 
woulde  let  it  what  he  might,  the  next  daie  againe  he  sent  for  pkus  was 
him  home  to  his  howse  where  he  gaue  the  like  charge  (D.  Coxe  t££a 
and  other  present  by  whose  procurement  the  same  was  donne)  great/ar- 


therer  off 
the  churche 
and  the 
orders  off 
the  same 
howe  so 
euer  he 
was  turn- 
ed. 


XLVI. 

Whittingham  answered,  that  yfF  it  were  so  concluded,  he 
woulde  willingly  obaie,  not  dowtinge,  but  that  it  might  be 
lawful  for  him  and  others  to  ioine  themselues  to  some  other 
churche.  But  D.  Coxe  besought  the  lawier  that  it  might  not 
so  be  suffred,  wherto  whittingham  answered  that  it  woulde  be 
to  great  crueltie  to  force  men  contrary  to  their  consciences  to 
obaie  all  their  disorderly  doinges,  offringe,  that  iff  it  woulde 
please  the  Magistrates  to  geue  him  and  others  the  hearinge, 
they  would  dispute  the  matter  against  all  the  contrary  parte 
and  proue  that  the  order  whiche  they  sought  to  establishe, 
ought  not  to  take  place  in  anie  reformed  churche.  The  D.  off 
lawe  made  a  plaine  answere  that  disputation  there  shulde  be 
none,  vsing  his  former  wordes  off  charging  and  commaundinge 
not  to  deale  farther  in  that  matter. 
^foct  %  Wlien  as  tne  congregation  harde  off  the  cruell  and  more 
fh%CEn-      then  tirannicall  dealinges  off  this  Doctor,  Maister  Gilby  and 

mideoffti'°theYS  withe  him'  were  sente  t0  maister  lohn  Glawburge  (by 
reiecting  whose  commaundment  as  ye  harde,  they  had  receiued  the 
thother.  frencne  order)  puttinge  him  in  remembrance  off  the  same  and 
shewinge  him  that  certeine  lately  come  among  the  had  sought 
(as  they  were  crediblie  enformed)  to  ouerthrowe  their  churche 
by  placing  the  Englishe  booke  amonge  them.  To  this  maister 
Glauburg  made  answere,  that  he  was  enformed  howe  that 
bothe  partes  were  full  agreed  and  contented,  and  that  therup- 
Marckthis  pon  he  had  committed  the  whole  matter  to  the  lawier  his 
cousen.  Then  he  asked  for  whittingham  :  it  was  answered 
that  strait  charge  was  geuen  him  that  he  shuld  medle  no  more 
in  that  matter.  The  magistrate  asked  againe  off  whom  he  had 
that  commaundement,  and  when  it  was  tolde  him  that  the 
Doctor  his  cousen  had  geuen  him  that  charge,  he  then  began, 
verie  gentlie  to  perswade  with  maister  Gilby  and  the  rest 
that  they  shulde  be  contented,  and  he  would  se  that  nothino-e 
shulde  be  vsed  but  that  which  shuld  be  tollerable,  and  so 
maister  Gilby  withe  the  rest  departed. 

The  28.  off  marche  D.  Coxe  assembled  all  suche  as  had 
byn   Priests  and  Ministers  in    Englande  to  his  lodging  and 


XLVII. 

there  declared  howe  the  Magistrates  had  graunted  them  the 
vse  off  the  Englishe  booke,  and  that  he  thought  requisite  that 
they  shulde  consulte  together,  whom  they  thought  moste  At  UngU 
meete  to  be  Bishop,  Superintendent  or  Pastor  withe  the  rest  off^onihe 
the  officers,  as  Seniors  Ministers  and  Deacons.  Wherunto  ™*<me  Pas~ 
maister  Christopher  Goodma  answered  that  his  opini5  was, 
that  they  ought  first  to  agree  vpon  some  perfect  an[d]  godly 
order  for  the  churche,  and  therto  to  haue  the  cosent  of  the  con- 
gregation wherby  it  might  appeere,  that  they  contemned  not 
die  reste  off  their  brethern  :  And  farther,  to  proceade  to  the 
electio  which  he  thought  also  ought  not  to  be  attempted  with- 
owte  the  consent  off  the  whole  churche.  To  this  was  answered 
that  for  the  order,  it  was  already  determined,  and  other  order 
then  the  booke  off  Englande  they  shulde  not  haue,  so  that 
the  perswasions  off  Goodman  nothinge  at  all  preuailed  nether 
in  one  thinge  or  other,  yea,  the  proceadings  off  sundrie 
personnes  (whiche  I  coulde  name)  were  suche  as  if  there  had 
bin  nether  orders,  officers,  or  churche  there,  before  their  com- 
minge,  or  any  promes  to  be  kepte  off  their  partes,  after  they 
came,  as  maie  more  plainly  apeere  to  the  reader  by  this  letter 
folowinge,  written  by  maister  Whittingham  to  a  frinde  off 
his  in  Englande,  whiche  letter  is  (off  his  owne  hande)  to  be 
seene. 

Grace,  mercy  and  peace  thr ought  Christ 
our  lorde. 

As  yow  require  a  brieff  answere  to   your  shorte  letter,  so  An  an- 

•  -r    •  i  1  1  p     ,1        swere  to  a 

nether  tyme  permitteth,  nor  I  intend  to  trouble  yow  farther  ldter  sent 
then  the  verie  necessitie  off  the  matter  askethe.     And  flrste,  himmvte 

.      .  .      q/f  h.v(j- 

for  that  ye  seeme  to  hange  in  suche  extreame  perplexitie,  \and. 
partly,  bicause  of  sundry  talkes,  and  diuers  letters  off  men  off 
good  credit  which  causethe  yow  not  a  litle  to  merueile,  and 
partly,  by  reason  off  the  Good  opinion  once  conceyued  and 
yet  reteined  off  certeine  persons  bothe  godly  and  lerned,  whiche 
maketh  yow  to  dowte  :  I   think  it  beste,  briefly  and  simplie 


XLvnr. 

to  open  a  fewe  chieff  pointes  vppon  the  whiche  the  reste  off 
the  matter  dependethe.  After  certeine  monethes  that  we  had 
here  liued  in  great  consolation  and  quietnes  it  chaunced  that 
as  oure  nomber  did  increase,  so  some  entred  in,  whiche  busi- 
lie  vndermined  oure  libertie  and  labored  to  ouerthrowe  oure 
discipline,  whiche  troubles  grewe  at  lenght  in  so  great  quan- 
titie,  that  by  the  greatest  parte  it  was  concluded,  that  no  man 
shulde  neede  here  after  to  subscribe  to  anie  discipline  for 
as  muche  as  they  presupposed  that  none  would  come  hither 
whiche  shulde  haue  nede  therofF.  Whiche  donne,  they  altered 
oure  orders  in  praiers  and  others  thinges,  thinkinge  to  bringe 
in  place  the  full  vse  off  the  great  Englishe  booke,  whiche 
notwithstandinge,  by  reason  off  diuers  imperfectios  we  coulde 
not  admit,  so  that  to  growe  to  a  common  concord  it  was 
agreed  and  the  name  off  god  inuocated  that  the  whole  matter 
shulde  be  referred,  to  maister  Caluin  Maister  Musculus 
Maister  Martir,  Maister  Bullinger  and  Maister  Viret  that 
bothe  partes  shulde  drawe  their  orders  and  that  to  be  receyued 
whiche  by  the  iudgements  off  theis  5.  excellent  men  shuld  be 
thought  moste  agreable  to  a  reformed  churche.  In  the  meane 
time  euerie  man  to  stand  content  withe  that  order  whiche  was 
then  agreed  vpd  and  vsed.  But  within  fewe  daies  after, 
this  determinati5  was  broken.  A  stranger  craftely  brought  in 
to  preache,  who  had  bothe  byn  at  masse  and  also  subscribed  to 
blasphemous  Articles,  Many  tauntinge  bitter  sermons  were 
made  (as  they  thought)  to  oure  defacinge,  in  so  moche,  as 
maister  Knox  beinge  desired  therunto  off  diuers,  was  inforced 
to  purge  him  self  in  sundrie  pointes,  and  spake  his  mind  freely 
in  the  pulpit,  aswell  in  reprouinge  certeine  partes  off  the  En- 
glishe booke,  as  declaringe  the  punishmente  off  God  whiche 
partly  had  light  vpon  oure  countrie  for  slacknes  in  Religion, 
so  as  they  seemed  to  take  the  matter  so  to  harte  that  by  their 
false  delation  in  accusinge  him  before  the  Magistrates  off 
treason  againste  the  Emperour  and  the  Queene  in  a  certeine 
boke  off  his  written  to  oure  countrie  men  off  England  he  was 
commaunded  to  departe. 


XLIX. 

And  the  Magistrates  vnderstandinge  their  fetches,  and 
greedy  cerchinge  off  their  owne  glorie  (who  seemed  to  spare 
no  kinde  off  contention  to  purchase  the  same)  commaunded 
that  we  shulde  receiue  the  frenche  order  (whiche  is  accord- 
inge  to  the  order  off  Geneua  the  pureste  reformed  churche  in 
Christendome  (Wherupon  all  agreed  and  D.  Coxe  with  others 
commendinge  the  same  to  the  congregation)  gaue  thankes  to 
the  Magistrate  in  all  oure  names.  Here  yow  maie  note  their 
double  faces,  who,  bearinge  the  Magistrate  in  hande  that  they 
receyued  his  comaundement  ioyfully,  priuily  practised,  and 
so  laboured  vnder  hande,  that  they  made  this  Magistrate 
vnsaie,  and  so  obtained  their  booke,  promisinge  notwith- 
standinge,  bothe  to  the  Magistrate,  and  certaine  off  the  con- 
gregation, as  well  to  proue  by  the  worde  off  God  so  muche 
off  the  booke  as  they  woulde  vse,  as  also  to  set  forthe  the 
same  in  writtinge,  that  they  (before  the  forsaied  order  shulde 
be  chaunged)  might  iudge  off  the  equitie  theroff.  But  pre- 
ferringe  the  ioye  off  their  vnhoped  victorie  before  their  pro- 
messe,  did  nether  the  one  bycause  they  coulde  not,  nether  the 
other  bicause  they  durste  not.  And  yet  haue  they  not  made 
an  ende  off  their  triumphe.  For  beginninge  in  marche  not 
onely  to  neglecte  all  orders  in  the  election'  off  their  Ministers 
and  other  officers,  but  also  to  skoff  and  taunte  others  in  their 
dailie  sermons,  do  not  yet  ceasse  as  nowe  appearethe  by  their 
slanderous  and  lyinge  letters. 

But  to  thende  we  might  be  deliuered  from  this  vnsupport- 
able  yoke,  God  off  his  mercy  hathe  prouided  better  for  vs, 
and  for  this  incommoditie  hathe  graunted  vs  a  double  benefit 
in  so  muche  that  contrary  to  their  hope  he  hathe  not  onely 
at  Basill  moued  the  Magistrates  hartes  towardes  vs  in  graunt- 
inge  vs  a  churche,  but  also  at  Geneua,  where  as  Gods  worde 
is  truly  preached  manners  beste  reformed  and  in  earthe  the 
chiefest  place  off  true  comforte.  Thus  in  fewe  lines  I  haue 
gon  abowte  to  satisfie  your  requeste  bearinge  with  tyme 
whiche  hasteth  and  also  folowinge  mine  owne  Iudgement, 
whiche  perswadeth  me  rather  to  geue  yow  a  taste  of  thinges 


L. 

(whiche  I  moued  in  conscience  wryte  as  moste  true)  then  to 
fill  yow  with  the  whole  discours,  whiche,  iff  this  maie  not 
suffice,  yow  maie  by  continuaunce  haue  at  your  commaunde- 
ment.  Pray  for  vs  brother  in  this  oure  banishement,  that 
the  frutes  off  this  vncorruptible  seede  maie  springe  moste 
abundantly,  as  we  praie  cotinually  that  oure  heauenly  father 
woulde  so  strengthen  yow  with  his  spirite  off  boldenes,  that 
yow  maie  not  onely  resiste,  but  also  triumphe  ouer  all  your 
enymies  to  the  glorie  off  God  and  the  confusio  off  the 
aduersaries.  Knowe  before  yow  iudge,  and  beleue  not  all 
fleinge  tales,  keepe  one  eare  open  and  reporte  the  beste. 

Your  William  Whittingham. 


Where  as  maister  whittingham  in  this  his  letter  makethe 
mention  off  a  churche  graunted  them  bothe  at  Basill  and 
Geneua,  it  is  to  be  noted  that  he  himself!  was  the  man  whiche 
the  oppressed  congregation  required  to  trauel  therin  and 
through  goddes  great  mercy  obtained  it  with  great  fauour, 
who  (in  his  iourney)  passed  by  Zurik  to  knowe  off  Maister 
Bullinger  what  he  thought  off  the  booke  off  Englande  for 
that  he  (who  had  raported  to  maister  Williams,  Whittingham. 
Gilbie  and  others,  thai  Cranmer  Bishop  off  Canterbury  had 
drawen  vp  a  booke  off  praier  an  hundreth  tymes  more  per- 
fect then  this  that  we  nowe  haue,  the  same  coulde  not  take 
place,  for  that  he  was  matched  withe  suche  a  wicked  clergie 
and  conuocation,  with  other  enymies)  Euen  he,  I  saie,  yet 
stood  in  this  that  maister  Bullinger  did  like  well  off  thinglishe 
order,  and  had  it  in  his  study.  But  when  Whittingham  had 
demaunded  that  question,  Bullinger  tolde  him,  that  indede 
Maister  H.  and  Maister  C.  asked  his  iudgemente  concern  - 
inge  certeine  pointes  off  that  booke,  as  Surples,  priuate 
baptisme.  Churchinge  off  wemen,  the  ring  in  manage,  with 
suche  like,  whiche,  (as  he  saied)  he  allowed  not,  and  that 
he  nether  coulde  yff  he  woulde,  nether  woulde  yff  he  might, 


LI. 

vse  the  same  in  his  churche,  what  so  euer  had  byn  re- 
ported. 

Whittingham  passinge  from  thence  to  Geneua,  maister 
Caluin  shewed  him  a  letter  sent  from  D.  Coxe  and  from  24. 
more  off  Franck.  in  whiche  letter,  they  partly  excused  them 
seines  that  they  put  order  in  their  churche  withowte  his 
cousaile  asked,  and  partely  reioyclge  for  that  they  had  (as  they 
saide)  brought  the  moste  parte  that  had  withstande  their 
doynges  to  their  opinion,  which  not  withstandinge,  was  farr 
otherwise. 

They  wrote  also,  that  they  had  elected  a  pastour,  2.  Minis- 
ters. 4.  Seniors,  and  2.  Deacons,  &c.  but  howe  parciallie  they 
proceaded  in  their  elections  (those  that  were  in  office,  nether 
discharged,  nor  yet  their  consents  required)  I  leaue  to  the 
consciences  off  them  whiche  sawe  those  disorders. 

To  this  letter  off  thers  the  contentes  wheroff  are  aboue 
touched,  maister  Caluin  answerethe  in  this  wise. 


To  the  worshippfull  my  louinge  brethern  in  the  lorde 
maister  Richard  Coxe   and  the  rei 
whiche  nowe  remaine  at  Frankford. 


maister  Richard  Coxe   and  the  rest  off  the   Englishemen 


Paraduenture  I  answere  your  letter  (worship,  frinds  and 
brethern)  more  slowlie  then  ether  ye  hoped  or  looked  for,  but 
for  so  muche  as  ye  knowe  the  wayes  for  a  tyme  so  to  be 
beset  withe  theues  that  no  messenger  allmoste  coulde  passe 
from  hence  to  yow  the  excuse  of  my  long  delay  towardes  yow 
shalbe  the  easier. 

I  expressed  my  minde  frankly  to  oure  beloued  brother 
Thomas  Sampson,  off  that  wheroff  I  was  enformed  by  the 
letters  off  certeine  men  as  touchinge  the  contention  vnluckelie 
stirred  vp  amonge  yow.  For  certene  off  my  frindes  founde 
the  selues  greued  that  yow  woulde  so  preciselie  vrge  the  cere- 
monies off  Englande,  wherby  it  might  appeere  that  ye  are 
more  geuen  and  addicte  to  your  countrie  then  reason  woulde. 
I   confesse  that  I   harde  certeine   reasons  alledgod   on   your 


LII. 

behalff  whicbe  woulde  not  suffer  yow  to  departe  from  the  re- 
ceyued  order,  but  they  might  be  soone  and  easilie  confuted. 
Nowe,  as  I  counsailed  mine  owne  frindes  whiche  dissented 
from  yow,  somewhat  to  yelde,  yff  they  might  conueniently,  so 
it  offended  me  that  there  was  nothinge  graunted  or  relented 
on  your  partes.  Bicause  there  was  no  man  named  vnto  me, 
I  durste  not  entreprise  to  medle  with  the  matter,  leaste  my 
credit  shuld  incurre  the  suspecte  off  rashenes.  Nowe  that  ye 
are  more  myleder  and  tractable  in  this  controuersie  and  that 
ye  haue  (as  ye  saie)  stilled  the  matter  withe  quietnes,  I  am 
verie  glad. 

Verely  no  man  well  instructed  or  off  a  sounde  Iudgement, 
will  deny  (as  I  think)  that  lights  and  crossings  or  suche  like 
trifles,  sprange  or  issued  owte  off  superstition,  wherupon  I  am 
perswaded  that  they  whiche  reteine-  theis  ceremonies  in  a  free 
choise,  or  when  they  maie  otherwise  doo,  they  are  ouer  greedy 
and  desyrous  to  drink  off  the  dregges  nether  do  I  se  to  what 
purpose  it  is  to  burthen  the  churche  with  tryfflinge  and  vn- 
profitable  ceremonies,  or  as  I  maie  terme  them  with  their 
propre  name,  hurtefull  and  offensible  ceremonies,  when  as 
there  is  libertie  to  haue  a  symple  and  pure  order.  But  I 
keepe  in  and  refraine  my  selff  leaste  I  shulde  seeme  to  be- 
ginne  to  moue  a  newe  contention  off  that  matter  whiche  as 
yow  reporte,  is  well  ended. 

All  good  men  will  allowe  the  Pastours  and  other  Ministers 
elections  with  common  voices,  so  that  none  complaine  that 
the  other  parte  off  the  churche  was  oppressed  fraudulently 
and  with  craftye  practises.  For  it  standethe  your  wisedomes 
in  hande  to  consider,  that  howe  muche  commoditie  the  good- 
nesse  off  the  Senate  dothe  deserue,  so  muche  enuie  shall  yow 
be  giltie  off,  or  charged  withall,  yf  yow  haue  abused  their 
lenitie  or  gentlenesse,  whiche  were  so  well  affected  towardes 
your  nation.  Yet,  I  woulde  not  haue  this  so  taken,  that  I  go 
abowte  to  be  preiudiciall  to  anie  man  but  I  had  rather  shewe 
plainely  what  maie  be  saide,  then  to  norishe  an  ill  opinion  by 
silence,  or  in  holdinge  my  peace.  But  certenly,  this  one  thinge 


LIII. 

I  cannot  keepe  secret,  that  Maister  Knox  was  in  my  iudge- 
men[t]  nether  godly  nor  brotherly  dealt  withall,  iff  he  were  ac- 
cused by  the  subtill  suggestion  of  certeine,  it  had  byn  better 
for  them  to  haue  taried  still  in  their  owne  lande  then  vniustly 
to  haue  brought  in  to  fair  countries  the  fierbrande  off  crueltie 
to  set  on  fier  those  that  woulde  not  be  kindled. 

Notwistandinge,  because  it  greueth  me  to  speak  sleightly 
off  theis  euells,  the  remembrance  wheroff  I  woulde  wishe 
to  be  buryed  in  perpetuall  forgetfullnes  :  therfore,  I  onely 
counsaile  yow  (not  withowt  a  cause)  to  be  wounded,  that  ye 
applie  your  selues  to  make  them  amendes  for  the  faulte  com- 
mitted. 

When  I  harde  that  the  one  parte  was  minded  to  departe  They  begin 
fro  thens  :  I  earnestly  admonished  them  (as  it  became  me)  PreteW' 
that  iff  they  coulde  not  well  remaine  there,  that  the  distance 
off  place  shulde  not  dissipate,  or  rent  in  sunder  their  brotherly 
agrement,  for  I  feared  muche  least  that  some  priuie  grudge 
off  the  former  contention  remained.  And  certainely,  nothinge 
coulde  more  comforte  my  harte,  then  to  be  delyuered  from 
this  feare.  For  iff  anie  haplie  come  to  vs,  it  woulde  grieue 
me  that  there  shulde  be  (as  it  were)  but  a  suspition  off  any 
secret  debate  betwene  yow. 

Therfore  as  touchinge  that  ye  haue  written  off  your  agre- 
ment I  desier  that  it  maie  be  firme  and  stable  that  iff  it 
chaunce  the  one  parte  to  go  to  an  other  place,  yet,  that  yow 
beinge  so  sundred  by  distance  off  places  maie  keepe  sure  the 
holie  bande  off  amitie,  for  the  fault  alreadie  committed  is  to 
muche,  although  thorowgh  discorde  it  creepe  no  further. 
Wherfore  it  shall  well  beseeme  your  wisedomes  (that  ye  maie 
be  frinds)  to  purge  diligentlie  what  so  euer  remainethe  off 
this  breache.  Fare  ye  well  brethern,  the  lorde  succour  yow 
with  his  aide,  and  gouerne  yow  with  his  spirite,  powre  his 
blessinges  vpon  yow  and  mittigate  the  sorowe  off  your  exile. 
From  Geneua  this  last  off  maie.     Anno  1555. 

Your  Iohn  Caluin. 


LITII. 

Bycause  that  Maister  Caluin  in  his  letter  maketh  mention 
offlightes,  some  might  gather  that  he  was  vntruely  enformed, 
that  in  the  Englishe  booke  lightes  were  prescribed  (the  con- 
trary wheroff  appeareth  by  the  description  before)  where  it  is 
manifest  to  such  as  be  lemed  that  he  vsethe  the  figure  auxesis, 
and  that  this  is  his  argument,  a  maiore  ad  minus,  for  so  muche 
as  lightes  and  crossinges  be  2.  off  the  moste  auncienstest  cere- 
monies, hauinge  continued  in  the  churche  aboue  13  hundreth 
yere,  are  yet  for  suche  causes  abolished  :  howe  muche  more 
ought  all  other,  that  haue  not  had  the  like  continuance,  and 
yet  abused,  be  vtterly  remoued. 

And  for  that  maister  Caluin  in  this  letter  earnestly  wished 
that  all  strife  shulde  ceasse,  and  that  yfF  anie  were  minded  to 
departe  their  departure  might  be  suche,  as  all  occasions  off 
offence  might  be  cut  of  and  cleane  take  awaie  :  it  was  thought 
good  to  suche  as  were  determined  to  go  awaie  with  in  3. 
weekes  after,  to  folowe  his  counsaile.  And  the  rather  for  that 
some  whiche  tooke  them  selues,  to  be  lerned,  had  openly  termed 
their  departure  a  sisme,  whervpon,  they  wrote  to  the  pastor 
Ministers,  and  whole  congregation  this  letter  folowinge  and 
deliuered  it  in  the  open  congregation. 

For  so  muche  as  through  the  benefit  off  God,  we  haue  ob- 
tained a  churche  in  an  other  place,  we  thought  it  good  to 
aduertise  yow  of  the  same.  And  to  the  intent  that  not  onely 
slanderous  reportes  maie  ceasse,  but  also,  iff  anie  offence  be 
either  taken  or  geuen,  the  same  maie  come  to  triall,  we  desier 
that  yow  for  your  parte  woulde  apointe  2.  Arbyters  and  we 
shall  appointe  other  2.  Who  hearinge  our  matters  throughly 
opened  maie  witnes  where  the  faulte  restethe,  at  whiche  time, 
we  will  vndertake,  to  defende  oure  departure  to  be  lawful] 
contrary  to  the  slanderous  reportes  off  some  which  vnlernedly 
terme  it  a  schisme.  Thus  farre  brethern  we  thought  good  to 
signifie  vnto  yow,  thinkinge  this  to  be  the  onely  meanes  of 
oure  mutuall  quietnes  wheroff  howe  desirous  we  are,  our  tedi- 
ous and  chargeable  iourney  maie  be  a  sufficient  profTe,  beinge 
throughly  perswaded,  that  hereby  stryfe  maie  be  ended  charitie 


LV. 

reuiued,  frindshipe  continued,  Goddes  glory  aduaunced,  and 
oure  brethern  edified.     Fare  ye  well  this  27.  off  August. 

William  Williams  Thomas  Wood  John  Escot 

William  Whittingham    William  Kcthe.  Thomas  Crofton 

Anthony  Gilby  him  Kelke.  William  Walton 

Christopher  Goodman.  John  Hilton.  Laurence  Kent 

Thomas  Cole.  Christ.  Soothous  John  Hollingham 

John  Fox.  Nicholas  Purfote  Anthony  Carier. 

When  the  Pastour  had  redd  this  letter  openly  to  the  con- 
gregation and  was  desired  to  knowe  when  they  shulde  haue 
an  answere,  he  saied  vnto  them  that  so  farre  as  he  perceiued, 
it  required  none  but  that  whiche  might  presently  be  made, 
whiche  was,  that  they  might  departe  seinge  they  were  so 
minded.  It  was  replied  that  for  so  muche  as  it  was  manifest 
that  they  had  byn  slaundered  not  onely  by  letters  into  diuers 
partes,  but  also,  by  some  that  then  were  present,  who  had 
affirmed  their  departure  to  be  a  schisme,  and  farther,  that 
they  coulde  finde  no  indifferency  at  their  handes  :  it  was 
thought  necessarie  to  commit  the  hearinge  off  that  controuersie 
to  lerned  and  indifferent  iudges,  by  bothe  partes  to  be  chosen 
wherby  the  faulte  might  appear  where  it  was  indede,  and  so 
they  either  excused  or  founde  giltie. 

D.  Cox,  at  lenght,  tolde  them  that  their  letter  shulde  be 
considered  off,  and  an  answere  shulde' be  geuen  them  the 
fridaie  after.  On  fridaie  the  30.  off  Auguste  bothe  partes 
mette  :  The  Pastor  (accompanied  with  the  Ministers  and 
elders)  spake  this  vnto  them.  It  seemeth  very  fonde  that 
arbytrers  shuld  be  apointed  to  take  vpp  strife  that  maic  come 
hereafter,  as  your  letter  signifieth.  And  furthermore,  ye  write, 
yff  anie  offence  be  taken  or  geuen,  whiche  semethe  as  strange, 
for  this  worde  (yff)  importethe  a  dowte,  so  that  yff  ye  dowte 
it  is  but  follie  to  apointe  arbitres.  fynally,  to  excuse  your  de- 
parture, yow  call  them  vnlerned  whiche  iudge  it  a  schisme  but 

d  2 


LVI. 

(saithe  he)  terme  it  as  yow  liste  yet  can  yow  not  let  men  to 
think.  And  yff  arbitres  shuld  pronounce  it  to  be  none,  yet 
mennes  opinions  will  be  diuers. 

Now  therfore,  your  answere  shall  be,  that  iff  anie  man  be 
offended  either  with  any  priuate  ma,  or  publiquely,  let  him 
or  them  complaine  to  vs,  or  yff  they  refuse  vs,  to  the  Magis- 
tral 

As  for  Arbitres,  we  will  appoint  none.  Then  spake  whit- 
tinffham  and   saied  that  it  was  to  him  no  small  wonder  that 

o 

men  of  suche  leminge  and  wisedome  shuld  so  shrink  in  a 
moste  equall  requeste,  and  so,  withowte  all  reason  to  cauill 
where  no  matter  was  offred.  For,  as  concerninge  (saithe  he) 
the  firste  pointe,  it  was  not  vnknowen  to  them  that  at  that 
time,  thorough  their  occasion,  their  was  no  small  contention, 
and  that  seinge  they  had  geuen  such  offence  it  coulde  not  be 
but  that  mennes  mindes  were  moued. 

And  therfore,  to  thende  that  contention  shulde  growe  no 
farther,  Arbytres  were  very  necessary,  who  neded  not  to 
deliberate  (as  he  saied)  off  thinges  to  come  whiche  were  vn- 
certeine  :  but  as  the  letter  truly  purported),  off  iniuries  longe 
agoo  begonne,  yet  continued,  and  here  after  not  like  to  be 
ended  excepte  some  good  meane  were  vsed  to  staie  their 
slanderous  letters  and  false  reportes,  to  the  vtter  perishinge 
Wittingha  an(j  ]ose  0ff  mennes  Good  names.  And  where  ye  seeme  to 
rupted.  be  ofended  that  the  letter  shulde  call  them  vnlerned,  whiche 
terme  oure  departure  a  schisme  (yow  omitt  saide  D.  Coxe  the 
2.  pointe,  whiche  is  off  no  small  importaunce)  to  whom  he 
answered  that  he  thought  he  did  them  a  pleasure  in  omittinge 
thincres  of  so  small  value,  notwithstandinge,  he  woulde  obaie 
his  will  but  (saithe  he)  as  touchinge  this  worde  vnlernedly,  it 
was  not  vnaduisedly  placed.  For  either  they  be  withowte 
lerninge,  and  therfore  maie  be  so  called  in  dede,  or  yff  they 
beare  the  name  off  lerninge,  yet  in  this  they  shewed  their 
vnskilfulnes  for  as  muche  as  euery  departure  from  a  congre- 
gation was  not  a  schisme,  nether  were  anie  that  departed  for 
iuste  causes  schismatikes  as  we  (saith  he)  will  proue  vnto  yow, 


LVII. 

yff  yow  will  take  oure  reasonable  and  moste  equall  offre. 
Naie,  saithe  the  pastor,  Arbitres  in  this  point  can  litle  availe 
for  be  it  they  iudged  it  none,  yet  mennes  thoughts  are  free, 
and  we  knovve  that  all  men  be  not  off  one  mynde  in  sacraments 
and  predestination,  shulde  men  therfore  take  abitres  ?  Also 
saith  he  maister  Caluin  and  Bullinger,  are  against  yow.  To 
this  was  answered,  that  thoughtes,  yff  they  were  not  grownded 
vpon  Goddes  worde,  were  euell,  neither  was  this  controuersie 
off  like  force  withe  the  matter  off  the  Sacraments  and  pre- 
destination, notwithstanding,  vvoulde  to  God  that  not  onely 
the  difference  in  those  articles  but  also  in  all  other  whiche  be 
of  waight  and  importaunce  might  be  decided  by  the  authoritie 
off  Goddes  worde  and  arbytrement  off  godly  lerned  men. 
But  men  maie  iustly  suspecte  your  cause  to  be  nought  whiche 
refuse  the  iudgments  off  the  wise  and  godly. 

And  where  yow  saie  that  Caluin  and  Bullinger  are 
againste  vs,  yow  abuse  your  selff  and  there  names,  for 
we  knowe  bothe  what  they  and  other  wryte  as  touchinge  this 
matter. 

Then  the  Pastor  asked  what  schisma  was  but  a  cuttinge  off' 
from  the  body,  and  that  it  was  Caluins  definition.  To  this 
Whittingham  answered  that  he  woulde  vndertake  firste,  to 
prone  that  definition  to  be  false,  and  secondly  to  be  none 
off  Caluins  definition  for  yff  euery  cuttinge  off  from  the  body 
shulde  be  a  schisme,  then  yow  and  all  other  whiche  once  had 
sworne  to  the  pope  and  now  haue  refused  him  are  schisma- 
tiques.  Then  the  pastor  added,  from  a  churche  well  reformed. 
Answere  was  made  that  a  churche  well  reformed  muste  be 
builded  vppon  the  doctrine  off  the  Prophetes  and  Apostles, 
the  vnitie  wheroff  S.  Paule  comprehendeth  in  theis  wordes  : 
one  god,  one  faithe,  one  baptisme,  not  beggerly  ceremonies 
and  obscurations,  although  that  sundry  causes  besides  moued 
them  to  departe.  Then  Maister  Treherren,  asked  whither 
the  donatists  were  not  schism atiques. 

Yes,  saith  Whittingham  and  also  heretiques,  but  yow  arc 
decerned   yff  yow   thinke    that   they    seperated  them    seines 


LVIII. 

for  ceremonies.  It  is  manifest  said  Treherren,  that  the 
churches  off  Asia  were  excommunicate  as  schismatiques  for 
that  they  kepte  not  Easter  at  the  same  time  that  the  Romaine 
churche  did.  And  it  is  no  lesse  euident  said  Whitthingham 
that  Ireneus  and  other  godly  men  aswell  off  that  time,  as 
sithens  haue  sharply  reproued  and  condemned  Pope  Victor 
for  the  same. 

Here  D.  Coxe  put  Whittingham  in  remembraunce  that 
he  had  not  answered  to  the  faultes  off  the  letter.  Whitting- 
ham tolde  him,  that  as  touchinge  that  poore  worde  (yff)  he 
marueled  howe  it  coulde  Minister  anie  cauillation,  seinge,  the 
text  ioininge  therto  was  so  plaine,  whiche  declarethe  bothe 
the  offences  by  yow  geuen  and  by  vs  taken.  And  also  your 
consciences  beare  yow  witnes,  the  thinge  to  be  moste  true 
excepte  a  man  will  be  wilfully  blinde,  and  finde  a  knot  in  a 
rushe,  so  that  that  worde  (yf)  mente  not  that  we  do,  dowte 
who  were  oppressed  with  infinit  wronges,  but  iff  they  woulde 
dissemble  so  farre  that  they  might  seeme  to  dowte  theroff,  yet, 
at  the  leaste,  they  woulde  abide  the  tryall  theroff  before  theis 
Arbitres.  But  here  the  disputation  brake  vp  with  this  plaine 
and  finall  answere  that  arbitres  they  shuld  haue  none,  and 
that  yff  they  founde  themselues  greued,  they  shulde  seeke 
remedy  where  they  thought  Good  and  he  the  Pastor  withe  the 
reste  off  the  congregation  woulde  answere  them. 

The  nexte  daie  the  Pastour,  D.  Coxe,  maister  parry  and 
maister  Asheley  sent  for  Whittingham,  Thomas  Cole,  Iohn 
Fox,  William  Kethe,  Roger  harte,  Iohn  Hilton  with  certeine 
other,  demandinge  off  them  what  shulde  be  the  cause  off  their 
departure.  Whittingham  made  answere  that  the  daie  before 
they  had  declared  sufficiently,  and  yet  woulde  farther  shewe 
reasons,  yff  they  would  permit  the  controuersie  to  Arbytre- 
ment.  And  to  the  intent  they  shulde  not  counterfait  ignorance 
(amonge  other)  theis  were  some  causes :  firste,  their  breach 
off  promes,   established   with    inuocation  off  goddes   name  : 

2.  Their  ordreles   thrustinge  themselues   in  to  the   churche. 

3.  Takinge  awaie  the  order  off  discipline  established  before 


LIX. 

their  comminge  and  placinge  no  other.  4.  The  accusasion  off 
maister  Knox  their  godly  Minister  off  Treason  and  seekinge 
his  bloude.  5.  Their  ouerthrowinge  off  the  common  order, 
taken  and  commaunded  by  the  Magistrate.  G.  The  displacinge 
off  officers  withowte  anie  cause  alleadged.  7.  The  bringing 
in  off  Papisticall  superstitions  and  vnprofitable  Ceremonies 
whiche  were  burthens  yokes  and  clogges,  besides  other  thinges, 
whiche,  yff  they  woulde  abide  the  triall  they  shulde  heare  at 
large.  When  he  and  some  off  the  rest  had  rendred  their 
reasons  for  their  departure  to  this  effecte,  certaine  warme 
wordes  passed  to  and  fro  from  the  one  to  the  other,  and  so  in 
some  heate  departed. 

Not  many  daies  after  the  oppressed  churche  departed  from 
Franck.  to  Basill  and  Geneua,  some  stayinge  at  Basill  as 
maister  Fox  with  other.  The  rest  came  to  Geneua  where 
they  were  receiued  withe  great  fauour  and  mutche  curtesie, 
bothe  off  the  magistrates  Ministers  and  people.  So  soone  as 
they  entred  their  churche,  they  chose  Knox  and  Goodman 
for  their  Pastor,  and  Gilby  requested  to  suplie  the  rome  till 
Knox  returned  owte  off  france. 

The  lerned  men  whiche  came  from  all  places  to  Frank, 
abowte  this  matter  (when  they  had  donne  that  whiche  they 
came  for,  they  returned  againe  from  whens  they  came,  and 
some  to  other  places,  where  they  might  saue  charges,  and  not 
to  be  either  burthened  or  bownde  to  the  exercises  of  the  con- 
gregation, so  that,  the  exile  whiche  was  to  many  a  poore  man 
full  bitter,  greuous  and  painefull,  was  (to  some  off  the  greatest 
persecutours  off  their  poore  brethern)  as  it  were,  a  pleasant 
progresse  or  recreation. 

But  nowe  it  shall  be  necessary  to  declare  what  order  was 
taken  in  this  newe  erected  congregation  for  the  prosperous 
continuance  off  the  same,  whiche  thinge  to  do,  I  cannot  by  a 
better  meane  then  placinge  here  this  letter  folowinge  whiche 
maister  cole  (late  deane  off  Sarum)  wrote  to  a  frinde  off  his, 
whiles  yet  Tie  staied  (behinde  his  company)  in  Franck.  amonge 
them,  his  letter  is  yet  to  be  seene. 

d  4 


LX. 

The  holie  spirit  off  God  that  guideth  the  children  off 
God  in  truthe  and  godlines  be  your  comforte  thorough 
oure  mercies  seate  Iesus  Christe,  now  and  for  euer 
Amen. 

The  tempeste  off  the  swellinge  seas  whiche  in  timespaste 
thretned  shipwrack  to  euery  vessell  that  sailed  with  a  faire 
winde  and  full  sailes  to  the  porte  off  blessed  truthe,  whiche 
off  her  selffe  is  stronge  ynoughe,  with  owte  anye  barr  or  wall 
off  mannes  inuentions,  are  somewhat  (the  lorde  be  praised) 
caulmed  to  me  warde,  so  that  withowt  farther  reasoninge 
they  permit  me  to  my  conscience  as  touchinge  their  ceremo- 
nies. 

The  cause  I  iudge  is  not  for  that  they  beare  lesse  loue  to 
them  then  in  tymes  past,  but  that  they  perceiue  the  sturdy 
defendinge  off  them,  to  worke  them  that  they  looke  not  for, 
or  rather,  that  whiche  they  are  lothe  to  se,  namely,  the  de- 
creasinge  off  their  companie  :  yet  they  labour  with  policie 
what  they  maie  or  can,  to  preuent  this  daunger  but  yet  that 
whiche  they  feare,  I  suppose  will  fall  vpon  them,  vnlesse  god 
geue  them  to  repent  their  olde  faultes  and  humble  them  more 
to  knowe  them  selues. 

They  haue  set  vp  an  vniuersitie  to  repaier  againe  their 
estimation  by  mainteinance  of  lerninge  (whiche  surely  is  well 
done)  that  was  fondly  brought  in  decaie  by  willful!  ignorance, 
in  defendinge  off  ceremonies,  to  the  whiche  Maister  home 
is  chosen  to  be  the  reader  off  the  Hebrue  lecture,  Maister 
Mullings  off  the  Greke,  and  Maister  Treherren  when  he  is 
stronge,  shall  take  the  diuinitie  lecture  in  hande.  Maister 
Whitthead  was  appointed  therunto  but  bicause  he  woulde 
escape  the  labour  off  the  lecture  (for  iuste  causes  as  he  saide) 
he  forsooke  the  pastorall  office  also,  stowtly  (as  yow  knowe) 
denyinge  to  be  in  office  anie  longer.  Great  holde  there  was 
abowte  this  matter  in  the  congregation,  in  so  muche  as  they 
hasted  to  a  newe  election,  and  verie  fewe  (as  it  semed)  were 
off  a   contrary    minde,    no,    not   his    owne    frindes    sauinge 


LXI. 


Maister'  makebray  and  Maister  Sorby,  who  desired  him  to 
take  respit,  and  the  congregation  to  geue  it.  But  some  look- 
inge  for  the  office  themselues  woulde  not  in  suche  a  matter 
suffer  delay,  but  againe  Demaunded  off  Maister  Whithead 
whither  he  woulde  keepe  his  office  or  no  supposirige  that 
he  whiche  had  so  stowtely  denied  it  in  worde,  woulde  not 
soone  be  flexible  to  the  contrary.  But  he  perceauinge  that 
some  woulde  haue  had  him  owte  on  the  one  side,  and  by 
leauinge  off  it,  his  estimation  was  like  to  decaie  on  the 
other  "side,  (for  many  rough  wordes  were  geuen  him)  when 
occasion  off  intretie  was  offred,  non  respuit  conditionem  by 
that  meanes  bringinge  to  him  selfe  wittily,  a  triple  com- 
moditie,  one,  the  preuentinge  off  them  whiche  looked  for  the 
office,  an  other,  the  refusall  off  the  diuinitie  lecture,  Thirdly, 
a  faster  growndinge  himselff  in  that  office,  whiche  he  lefte 
in  mouthe,  but  as  it  semed,  not  in  harte.     Thus  ended  that 

comedie. 

But   shortly   after   (notwithstandinge   a   vehement   sermon 
made   for  the  purgation  from    mannes   inuentions)   the   seas 
bemn   againe  to   swell,  (so   fickle   an   element  is  water)  for 
Maister  Kent  hauinge  a  childe  to  Christen  purposinge  to  haue 
it  done  simplie,  withowte  the  bewtifinge  off  mennes  traditions, 
came  with  his  childe  accordinge  to  the  frenche  order  whiche 
we  once  receiued,  and  one  to  holde  it  there  to  professe  Ins 
faith  yff  it  were  required,  but  the  pastor  denied  the  Christen- 
ing   vnles  2.   Godmothers  were  had  after  the  order  off  the 
booke,    as    concerninge    the    Godfather,    Maister    Makebray 
(who  is  nowe  comme  to  that  office)  supplied  it.      A  lucky 
matter  is  attained  at  Wezell  in  Westphalia,  an  open  churche 
for  oure  Englishe  men,  to  whiche  bicause  off  nighnesse)  they 
feare  many  will  go  from  hence,  but  moo  wil  come  owte  oft 
Englande  to  yt.     I   pray   yow   commende  me   to  M.      1  ell 
him  that   Maister   wisedom    railed   on   them    that    were   gon 
to  G.  Callinge  them  mad  heades  with  many  pretye  names, 
I  will  not  saie  vnwysely,  But  I  mave  well  say  vnchantably, 


D    O 


LXII. 

in  whiche  Sermon,   he  shewed   him  selff  an   Antagonist  for 
the  booke  off  Englande,  &c. 

Your  Thomas  Cole. 

Shortly  after  thies  thinges  to  wete,  the  6.  off  Ian.  When 
as  maister  Whithead  gaue  vpp  off  his  owne  good  will,  as  he 
saide,  the  pastorall  office,  Maister  home  was  in  the  election 
to  succede  him,  who  protested  that  he  woulde  not  medle 
therwith,  till  he  were  cleared  off  certeine  suspitions  which 
some  had  bruted  to  the  discredit  off  his  ministerie,  and  obtain- 
inge  his  requeste,  he  withe  the  Seniors  entred  the  churche  the 
first  off  marche  Anno  Domini  1556.  were  they  receiued  all 
such  persons  (as  members  off  that  churche)  which  were  con- 
tented to  subscribe  and  submit  themselues  to  the  orders  off 
the  same.  From  whiche  tyme  forward  the  troubles  and  con- 
tentions were  so  sore  amonge  them,  that  who  so  shall  well  waie 
it  with  due  consideration,  I  ween,  he  shall  think  it  to  be  the 
iuste  iudgement  off  our  righteous  God  that  fell  vpon  them, 
for  supplantinge  a  churche  there  before  them  in  great  quietnes 
and  off  muche  sinceritie. 


The  historie  of  that  sturre  and  strife  which  was  in  the 

Englishe  church  at  Franckford  from  the  13.  daie 

off  Ian.  Anno  Domini  1557. 

forwarde. 

There  fell  a  certeine  controuersie  the  xiij.  daie  off  Ian. 
at  supper  betwene  Maister  Home  the  Pastor  and  Maister 
Asheley  whiche  controuersie  was  handled,  with  somewhat  more 
sharpe  wordes  then  was  meete,  but  yet  they  so  departed,  by 
the  industrie  and  labour  off  some  certeine  persons,  that  they 
dranke  wyne  one  to  an  other,  and  all  that  strife  and  con- 
tention was  thought  to  be  wholie  taken  awaie.  Afterward, 
to  witt,  the  16.  daie  off  Ian.  at  one  off  the  clock  in  the  after 


LXIII. 

noone,  thre  off  thelders  sent  for  Maister  Asheley  in  to  an 
howse  off  one  off  the  Elders  and  they  began  to  debate  the 
matter  with  him  touchinge  an  iniurye  done,  not  to  the  pastor 
alone,  but  to  all  the  Elders  (as  they  affirmed)  and  to  their 
ministery  which  thinge,  Maister  Asheley  denied  that  he  euer 
did  at  any  tyme. 

The  next  daie  beinge  the  17.  off  Ian.  After  that  publique 
praiers  were  ended,  Maister  Asheley  was  by  the  Pastor  and 
all  the  Elders  called  into  the  churche,  and  there,  in  the  name 
off  them  all  it  was  obiected  vnto  him,  that  he  had  spoken  vpon 
the  13.  daie  off  Ian.  in  supperwhile,  certeine  wordes  tendinge 
to  the  slander  off  them  and  their  ministery. 

Ashely  answered  that  he  perceiued  and  vnderstood  that 
they  all  were  offended  as  in  their  owne  matter,  and  that  ther- 
fore  he  woulde  not  answere  before  them  as  competent  iudges 
off  the  cause,  but  would  referre  the  cause,  that  he  had  against 
the  Pastor  and  them  (seinge  they  shewed  them  selues  an 
aduersarie  parte  to  him)  to  the  whole  churche  and  Ecclesi- 
asticall  discipline.  Then  the  Pastor  exhorted  him  that  he 
would  not  so  proceade,  for  yff  he  so  did,  that  then  they  were 
minded  to  seeke  and  demaunde  helpe  off  the  magistrate  agaynst 
him :  After  that  the  24.  off  Ian.  Asheley  himselff  handled  his 
owne  cause  in  his  owne  name  before  the  pastor  and. elders, 
and  the  in  the  afternoone,  he  sent  2.  me  of  the  churche  who, 
in  his  name  require  the  pastors  and  elders  that  they  would  not 
proceed  against  him  in  that  cause,  wherin  they  themselues 
were  a  parte,  and  therfore  not  fitt  or  competent  iudges,  but  to 
geue  ouer  the  whole  matter  to  8.  or  10.  men  vpright  in  con- 
science and  inclininge  to  nether  parte,  by  whose  iudgementes, 
iff  he  were  founde  in  faulte,  he  woulde  willingly  submit  him- 
selff to  all  Ecclesiasticall  discipline.  Answere  was  made  him 
by  the  Pastor  in  the  name  off  them  all,  that  they  had  receiued 
their  authoritie  from  the  whole  churche  and  would  reteine  and 
keepe  the  same  till  such  time  as  they  from  whom  they  had 
receiued  it  woulde  againe  demaunde  it.  And  in  the  meane 
while,  they  purposed  to  proceede  thereafter  againste  all  suche 

d  6 


LXI1II. 

as  had  offended  and  so  muche  the  more  seuerely  and  sharplie 
against  Maister  Asheley,  by  howe  muche  it  might  be  more 
profitable  for  the  whole  churche,  to  make  him  beinge  a  wor- 
shipfull  man,  an  ensample  to  others  to  take  heed  and  beware 
by  asheley  (that  answere  beinge  receiued  the  26.  off  Ian. 
Whiche  was  a  daie  off  solemne  praier)  fearinge  those  things 
whiehe  Home  had  saide  before,  th[r]eateninge  him  with  the 
Magistrate,  when  common  praier  was  ended  declared  the  whole 
matter  to  the  churche  and  desired  that  the  churche  woulde 
vnderstand  off  the  whole  matter  betwene  the  pastor  and  elders, 
as  the  one  partie  and  him  selff  as  thother. 

Wherupon  certeine  men  did  in  the  name  off  the  whole 
churche  demaunde  off  the  pastor  and  elders  whither  they  were 
a  parte  against  Asheley.  The  pastor  answered  in  all  their 
names  that  they  were  not  a  parte  against  him,  but  that  Asheley 
had  slandered  them  all.  Againe,  it  was  demaunded  in  the 
name  off  the  churche  who  were  his  accusers,  to  whiche, 
when  the  pastor  answered  nothinge,  neither  in  his  owne 
name,  nor  in  the  name  of  the  seniors  :  Asheley  was  comaunded 
by  the  church  publiquely  and  openlie  to  reade  those  things 
whiche  he  had  comprehended  in  wry  tinge  concerninge  his 
cause.  Afterward  the  pastor  and  elders  were  asked  wither 
those  things  whiche  Asheley  had  redd  were  true.  The  pastor 
answered  in  all  their  names  that  they  would  not  answere  either 
more  largely  or  anie  otherwise,  to  anie  questions  then  they 
had  erwhile  answered  and  so  the  congregation  was  dismissed 
withowte  answere,  yet  not  with  owte  cotempt  as  was  thought. 
The  same  daie  at  afternoone,  Maister  Hales,  who  was  absent 
when  theis  thinges  were  done,  vnderstanding  that  this  matter 
tended  to  more  greuous  striffe  and  contention,  did  wryte 
his  letters  to  some  certeine  personnes  that  semed  desirous 
off  the  peace  off  the  churche,  and  desired,  that  they  would 
come  together  the  nexte  daie  after  to  the  churche,  to  con- 
suite,  and  deliberate  what  were  the  beste  waie  to  pacifie 
this  trouble  and  turmoile  before  it  waxed  more  stronge,  or 
shulde  be  more  published  abroad  and  made  better  knowen  to 
the  senate  or  magistrats. 


LXV. 

The  very  dryfte  and  purpos  off  the  letters,  together  with 
them  that  were  called,  as  them  also  whiche  came  to  the  place 
appointed,  dothe  appeere  by  the  letters  themselues,  the  copie 
whereofT  insewetlie. 


The  superscription. 

To  his  brethern  off  the  Englishe  churche. 

Maister  Crawley     Maister  Nowel        Maister  Dauies 
Maister  Railton       Maister  Carell.        Maister  Benthame 
Maister  warcope.     Maister  Rente  Maister  Brikbeke. 

Maister  Faulconer  Maister  Kelke         Maister  Sutton. 

Maister  Christ.  Hales. 

Iohn  Hales  sendethe  greetinge  in  the  lorde. 

I  heare  brethem,  that  whiche  is  to  me  greuous  to  heare,  to 
witt,  that  striffes  are  arisen  in  oure  churche,  whiche  tende 
either  to  the  dissolution  off  the  churche,  or  to  the  hurte  and 
destruction  of  the  poore,  wherefore  I  pray  yow  whose  names 
are  in  the  superscription  off  the  letters,  that  (if  yow  shall  so 
think  good)  we  maie  meete  to  morowe  in  the  morninge  in  oure 
churche,  there  to  consulte  and  take  aduise  what  maie  be  the 
beste  waie  to  quiete  this  styrre,  to  the  glorie  off  God  and  our 
owne  quietnes.    god  geue  vs  his  peace.  This  26.  of  Ian.  15,57. 

Your  louinge  brother 
Iohn  Hales. 

I  pray  yow,  that  so  many  off  yow  as  will  mette  at  the 
tyme  and  place  apointed  to  put  downe  your  names,  lest 
some  parhap  maie  come  in  vaine. 

Nowe  all  those  whose  names  are  before  rehersed  came 
except  maister  warcope. 


LXVI. 

After  consultation  and  aduise  taken,  it  semed  best  to  al  them 
that  were  called  together  and  mett  there,  that  the  nexte  daie 
after,  one  off  them  in  all  their  names  shulde  deale  withe  the 
Pastor   and  elders,    that  sith  Ashley   complained   that    they 
were  aduersarie  parte  vnto  him,  they  woulde  suffer  the  churche, 
or  some  suche  certeine  persons  as   the   churche   shulde  ap- 
point,  to  take  knowledge  off  the  cause,  and  to  heare  flrste 
whither  they  were  an  aduersarie  parte  to  Ashley  whiche  iff 
they  were  not  founde  to  be,  then  the  knowledge  off  the  matter 
shuld  be  put  back  againe  to  the  and  that  withe  the  ignominie 
and  shame  off  him  that  had  appealed  from  them.    But  yffthey 
were  founde  to  be  aduersary  parte,   that  then  it  shulde  seeme 
vniuste,  that  they  shuld  sit  in  their  owne  cause  as  iudges,  but 
more  meete  and  vpright  it  would  be,  that  then  the  churche 
shulde  knowe  and  vnderstand  off  the  whole  matter,  wherupon 
the   next  daie  after,  that  is   to  saie,  the   18.  off  Ian.   when 
praiers  were  ended,   the   matter  was  proposed  to  the  pastor 
and  Elders,  by  one  apointed  for  that  purpose.     When  this 
counsaile  was  once  knowe,  the  minister  by  the  consent  off  the 
Elders  drew  owte  off  his  bosome  a  decree  whiche  the  magis- 
trate off  that  city  had  made,  and  redd  it  with  a  lowde  voice 
before  the  whole  churche.     The  decree  beinge  redd  he  added 
in  graue    wordes,   that  theis  oure  assemblies    and  meetinges 
woulde  be  verie  daungerous  not  to  vs  onelie  but  to  all  the 
congregations  off  strangers,    for  it  was  greatlie  to  be  feared 
least  the  magistrate  beinge  offended  withe  such  meetings,  did 
not  shut  vp  the  gates  off  oure  churche  alone,   but  also  off 
all  the  strange  churches.     And  therfore  that  he  (to  thend  he 
might   in   good    season  prouide  for  suche  daungers)  would 
surely  by  Ecclesiasticall  discipline  handle  according  to  his  de- 
serte,  maister  Hales  (who  then  by  occasion  of  sicknes  was  ab- 
sente)  the  author  of  that  assemblie,  and  that  he  woulde  pro- 
nounce of  vs  generally,   that  if  it  were  not  schismaticall,  yet, 
that  it  did  withowte  dowte  ted  to  schisme,  how  so  euer  we  ex- 
cused oure  mindes  ad  purposes,  moreouer  he  affirmed,  that  we 
had  don  verie  yll,  in  thafr  we  had  excluded,  and  shut  owte  cer- 


LXVII. 

teine  which  came  in  to  the  church  in  the  time  off  oure  consulta- 
tion and  meetige.  Answere  was  made  in  the  names  of  the 
churche,  that  that  decree  off  the  magistrate  was  by  them  before 
bothe  read  ouer  throughly,  and  also  verie  diligentlie  waied,  and 
that  they  iiulged  that  decree  to  be  most  vpright  and  iustlie  to 
be  feared  off  wicked  and  lewde  men,  such  as  were  sectaries  and 
factious  persons  and  that  they  did  assuredly  knowe  that  the 
threats  of  that  decree  did  nothinge  at  all  concerne  them  who 
were  mett  together  to  make  peace  and  vnitie,  and  that  they 
for  this  deede  did  so  litle  feare  the  angre  and  displeasure  of  the 
magistrats  that  they  trusted  the  magistrat  woulde  praise  the 
for  this  matter,  yfF  parhappes  he  knewe  off  the  thinge  it  selff 
and  that  therfore  they  were  assembled  and  comme  together 
that  the  whole  matter  might  be  quietlie  ended  amonge  them- 
selues  and  not  brought  before  the  magistrat.  for  where  we 
(saie  they)  were  banished  men,  and  had  by  the  meanes  off 
a  very  good  magistrate,  receiued  that  singuler  and  moste  ex- 
cellent benefit  offreste  and  quietnes,  we  shulde  do  that  whiche 
shulde  be  most  vnfit  and  vnseemly  for  vs,  iff  we  shulde  by 
occasion  of  our  striffes  and  hurley  burlies,  trouble  the  ma- 
gistrate, and  to  render  vnto  that  verie  good  Magistrate  vn- 
quietnes,  troubles  and  stirrs  whiche  shulde  be  verie  euell 
thankes,  for  so  great  a  benefit  off  quietnes  and  rest  as  we  hane 
receiued.  And  we  affirmed  that  we  so  muche  the  more  dili- 
gentlie and  wilingly  labored  in  pacifiynge  and  endinge  this 
controuersie  bicause  there  were  amongest  vs  certeine,  who 
rashly  and  with  owte  aduise,  brought  vnto  the  Magistrat  all 
light  and  small  controuersies,  whiche  might  easilie  haue  bin 
determined  and  ended  amonge  our  selfes,  herein  deseruinge 
no  fauour  at  all  either  at  the  handes  off  so  Good  a  Magistrat, 
whom  they  oftimes  withowte  cause  troubled,  or  of  their 
countrie  men  whom  they  by  thies  their  priuie  complaints 
and  accusations  did  amonge  strangers  slander  as  vnquiet 
and  troublesome  men,  and  that  they  had  done  no  lesse  dis- 
pleasure to  the  gospell  we  professe,  (whiche  by  occasion  off 
suche  accusations,  is  comonlie  euell   spoken  off  amonge  the 


LXVIIT. 

aduersaries)  then  to  that  so  good  a  magistrate  and  to  their 
owne  countrie  men.  And  that  we  therfore  (to  thende  the  Ma- 
gistrate might  not  be  troubled,  nor  our  nation  slaundered  as 
vnquiet  and  troublesome,  nor  the  worde  off  God  through  vs 
euell  spoken  off)  met  together  to  take  counsaile  and  auise 
howe  al  the  matter  might  be  peaceably  ended  and  for  no  other 
cause  or  purpose.  And  where  it  was  obiected  that  in  that  de- 
cree off  the  Magistrat  there  was  no  mention  at  all  made, 
either  off  the  whole  churche,  or  off  the  authoritie  off  whole 
churche  :  We  answere  (say  they)  that  we  do  not  so  interprete 
the  Magistrats  decree,  as  though  yt  were  the  Magistrats  minde 
and  pleasure  to  take  from  the  churche  the  right  and  authoritie 
due  to  the  Churche  and  make  the  whole  Churche  subiecte  to 
some  certeine  persons.  For  we  bothe  well  inoughe  knowe  by 
the  example  off  the  frenche  churche  in  a  like  controuersie,  and 
we  haue  tried  that  so  verie  good  a  Magistrate  hathe  very  great 
care  off  the  churche.  And  as  concerninge  Maister  Hales,  yt 
was  answered,  that  he  was  then  absente,  by  reason  off  his 
sicknesse,  and  not  for  feare,  or  that  he  was  giltie  to  him  selff 
off  any  ill. 

And  cocerninge  oure  whole  purpose  and  busines,  bycause 
it  was  said  thoughe  oure  mynds  parhaps  were  vpright,  yet  the 
dede  it  selff  was,  yff  not  schismaticall,  yet  verelie  tendinge  to 
schisme,  answere  was  made  in  all  our  names  that  we  woulde 
render  accompte  aswell  off  oure  mindes  and  purpose  before 
God,  as  off  our  dede  before  the  whole  churche,  and  that  vnder 
perill  and  paine  off  the  laste  punishement  that  Ecclesiasticall 
discipline  can  apointe,  or  yff  the  matter  so  require,  before 
the  ciuyll  Magistrate  in  paine  off  oure  lyffe.  And  as  touch- 
inge  them  that  were  not  admitted  in  to  the  churche,  to  our 
consultation,  it  was  answered  that  we  were  vniustlie  accused, 
for  that  it  was  not  a  publick  and  common  assemblie  of  the 
whole  churche.  But  a  meetinge  of  some  certeine  persons  to 
consulte  of  that  whiche  might  be  profitable,  and  that  therfore 
they  had  no  greater  iniurie  done  the  in  not  beinge  at  the  con- 
sultation to  whiche  they  were  not  called  or  sent  for,   then  if 


LXIX. 

they  had  not  byn  admitted  in  to  some  certeine  priuate  stoue  or 
hovvse.  for  as  touching  the  churche,  seinge  it  was  then  emptie 
and  voide  off  people,  it  was,  as  it  were,  a  priuate  howse. 
Nether  is  euery  assemblie  mett  there  to  be  counted  the  churche. 
For  when  the  pastor  or  some  other  readeth  there  a  lecture,  or 
moderateth  the  disputations,  it  is  not  then  a  church  but  a 
scoole.  And  therfore,  not  the  place,  but  the  company  off  men 
gathered  together  did  make  a  churche  or  congregation.  After- 
wards, it  was  skarcely  by  many  wordes  obtained  off  the  pastor 
and  Seniors,  that  the  churche  might  withowt  their  fauour 
and  good  will  meete  together  for  the  finishing  and  takinge 
vp  off  this  controuersie,  and  vprightly  determine  whether 
the  said  pastor  and  elders  were  an  aduersarie  parte  to  ashley 
yea  or  no  whiche  thinge  yet  at  the  lenght  the  pastor  and 
elders  graunted  to  the  churche.  And  the  pastor  and  Elders 
beinge  required  and  desired  that  they  would  together  be  pre- 
sent with  vs  in  the  congregation,  they  answered  that  there 
was  no  suche  nede,  nether  that  they  would  at  anie  hande 
hinder  vs.  The  next  daie  after,  to  wit,  the  29.  off  Ian.  the 
pastor  and  Elders  agreinge  therto,  as  is  saide  before,  when  the 
whole  churche  was  mette  together,  maister  hales,  who  then 
was  somewhat  better,  and  was  present  when  they  began  to 
take  aduise  and  cousaile,  rose  vp  and  spake  to  this  purpose. 
My  brethern  (saithe  he)  seinge  I  am  accused  of  the  pastor  be- 
fore the  whole  churche,  as  the  author  of  schisme  or  of  a  schis- 
maticall  facte,  or  at  the  least  tendinge  to  schisme,  if  yow  also 
iudge  of  me  in  like  sorte  I  will  departe  oute  off  this  companie, 
as  one  beinge  vnmeete  to  tarie  amonge  yow  in  this  assemblie. 
This  beinge  saide,  he  addressed  himselff  to  departe,  After- 
wards, he  was  called  back  by  all  the  men  there  assembled 
and  intreated  to  abide  amongest  them.  Afterwards  he  drewe 
foorthe  those  letters  by  whiche  he  had  called  certaine  men  to- 
gether to  make  peace  and  ende  the  stirre,  as  is  before  saide, 
and  preferred  them  to  the  church  to  be  openly  redd.  Whiche 
letter  beinge  redd,  that,  his  dede  was  judged  off  all  them  that 
were  present,  bothe  honest  and  most  meete  for  a  Christian  man 


LXX. 

nether  that  anie  man  that  had  called  either  others  to  make 
peace  by  their  meetinge,  was  for  suche  a  facte  to  be  accounted 
a  schismatick.  Then  they  were  all  desired,  that  seinge  they 
had  so  iudged  and  determined,  they  would  appoint  this  their 
sentence  to  be  registred  and  put  downe  in  writinge,  that  it 
might  stande  in  steed  off  a  recorde  and  testimonye,  not  for 
Maister  Hales  onely  but  for  all  other  in  the  like  case,  and 
with  all,  that  this  newe  and  present  vpstartinge  matter  might 
by  their  iudgemets  be  decided  and  ended  least  it  might  bringe 
forth  and  stirre  vp  new  contentions  amonge  them.  Wherupon 
it  was  put  downe  in  wrytinge  to  this  effecte.  Iff  two,  foure, 
eight,  twelue  or  mo  or  lesse,  meete  in  the  churche  when  it 
was  voide  off  people,  praier  and  other  exercises,  or  els  in  pri- 
uate  howses  to  make  peace  betwene  some  members  off  the 
churche,  or  to  consulte  off  anie  other  thinge  profitable  for  the 
church  that  that  their  dede  and  acte  shulde  not  in  anie  case 
be  iudged  or  esteemed  vnorderlie,  seditious,  schismaticall,  or 
tendinge  to  schisme. 

Neither  that  he  whiche  either  by  writinge  or  worde  off 
mouth  had  so  called  them  together  shulde  be  thought  to  be 
the  author  off  anie  schisme  or  a  schismaticall  facte  or  tendinge 
to  schisme  and  diuision.  And  bicause  nowe  no  place  off  speak- 
inge  in  the  congregation  withowte  offence  did  seeme  anie 
more  to  be  left  to  anie  man,  it  was  ordeined  the  saide  29.  off 
Ian.  that  it  shulde  be  lawfull  for  any  man  hauinge  before 
desired,  off  the  pastor,  elders,  and  whole  churche  licence  and 
libertie  to  speak,  to  shewe  his  iudgement  and  opinion  in  the 
churche  withowt  any  reproch  off  a  disordered  dede  therfore, 
so  it  be,  that  he  did  it  godly  quietlie  and  soberlie,  yff  he  shulde 
speake  anie  vngodly  thinge  that  the  it  was  lawfull  for  the  pas- 
tor and  Seniors,  or  anie  off  them  foorthwith  to  commaunde 
him  to  holde  his  toung.  The  laste  daie  off  Ian.  beinge  the 
Sabath  daie  after  morninge  praier  was  ended,  pardon  was 
offred  of  all  priuate  offences,  by  the  pastor  in  his  owne  name 
and  the  name  off  the  elders  to  all  the  people  off  the  churche  ad 
in  likesorte  the  people  were  desired  to  pardon  them  yet  in 


LXXI. 

suche  sorte  this  was  done  that  the  Pastor  and  Elders  woulde 
reserue  to  themselues  suche  causes  as  concerned  their  Minis- 
terie,  to  be  pursued  and  followed  off  them.  It  was  answered 
againe  in  oure  names  off  the  churche  that  we  in  like  sorte  did 
pardon  all  men,  all  priuate  grudges,  yet,  that  the  churche  did 
accordinge  to  their  example  reserue  vnto  it  selff  publike  causes 
belonginge  to  the  churche  and  the  libertie  theroff  quietlie 
and'Christianly  to  be  pursued  and  folowed,  which  answere 
allthoughe  it  were  measured  by  the  rule  off  that  pardon  and 
forgeuenes  whiche  the  pastor  had  before  offred,  yet,  it  did  no 
white  at  al  please  him  whiche  thing  also  I  warrate  yow  he  did 
not  dissemble.  Afterwards,  the  pastor  and  elders  suffered  that 
the  same  daie  in  the  afternoone,  the  church  shulde  againe 
meete,  and  shulde  trie  owte  and  knowe  the  matter  betwene 
them  and  Asheley,  to  wit,  whither  they  were  an  aduersary  parte, 
to  Ashley  yea  or  no,  But  the  Pastor  and  Elders  beinge  de- 
syred  that  they  also  woulde  be  present,  they  woulde  not  therto 
agree.  Wherfore  the  churche  beinge  gathered  together  in  the 
afternoone,  it  was  iudged  by  the  testimonie  off  some  meete 
me  and  by  this  also,  that  in  the  whole  churche  there  coulde  no 
other  be  founde  that  woulde  accuse  Ashley  but  the  pastor  and 
elders  (for  it  was  3.  times  verie  diligently  enquired  of  and 
published  amoge  the  people,  that  if  their  were  anie  in  the 
whole  churche  whiche  either  would  or  coulde  accuse  maister 
Ashley,  he  shulde  then  vter  it)  It  was  I  saie  iudged  and  deter- 
mined that  the  Pastor  and  Elders,  were  an  aduersarie  parte  to 
Maister  Ashley  and  that  therfore  they  were  not  fit  and  com- 
petent iudges  in  that  matter.  Furthermore,  it  was  fullie  de- 
creed that  the  Pastor  and  elders  in  suche  causes  as  in  whiche 
they  were  an  aduersary  parte  were  not  fit  arbitres  or  iudges, 
but  thafsuche  causes  did  apperteine  and  beloge,  either  to  the 
knowledge  off  the  congregation  or  off  such  as  the  congrega- 
tion woulde  appointe  to  that  purpos.  And  bycause  the  pastor 
and  elders  haue  bene  oftetimes  desyred  to  be  present  with  vs 
and  yet  woulde  not  (notwithstanding  that  they  themselues 
suffred  the  congregation  to  meete  together)  leaste  parhapp 
some  deccite  might  be  amonge  many  of  the  congregation  as 


LXXII. 

thoughe  it  were  not  off  it  selff  lawfull,  or  to  small  purpose  to 
apointe  anie  thinge  with  owte   the  pastor  and  elders  (whiche 
thing  afterwarde  tried)  it  was  decreed  that  iff  the  pastor  and 
elders  were  required  to  be  present  at  an  assemblie  and  woulde 
not    come,    that   the   assembly    was  laufull    notwithstandinge 
their    absence,    and  that  those   thinges  whiche   they  decreed 
shulde  be  had  and  esteemed  as  a  lawfull  decree.    Theis  Eccle- 
siasticall  decrees  and  ordinaunces,  whiche  euen  nowe  we  re- 
hersed  were  subscribed  vnto  with  the  names  off  33.  persons 
whiche  is  a  great  deale  the  bygger  parte  off  the  churche,  and 
the  2.  off  February  were  offred  vpp  to  the  pastor  and  Elders 
in  the  name  off  the  whole  churche  with  this  protestation  folow- 
Nowdwas inge>     We  Present  vnto  y°w  theJs  our  decrees  and  ordinauces 
the  mouthe  agreing    withe    right    and    reason    and    not   contrary  to    the 
«*?**        llolie  scl'iptures,  desyringe  to  haue  yow  knowe  them  and  fur- 
ther requiring  that  yow  woulde  with   vs  consent,   yelde  and 
subscribe  to  the  same.      Or  yff  ye  will  not  so  do,  she  we  we 
praye  yow  vpright  reasons  and  good  causes  why  ye  refuse. 
For  we  are  ready  to  correcte  and  amend  oure  faultes  yff  they  be 
shewed  vs,  at  the  monition  off  any  priuate  person,   but  muche 
more  at  yours   the  pastor  and    Elders.       For  as   we   desier 
their  wisedomes  to  come  to  perfecte  truthe  :  so  we  will  not 
thorough  stubbernes  defende  anie  errour,  beinge  shewed  vnto 
vs  to  be  an  errour  in  dede.      Yet  notwitstanding,  afterward 
vpon  in  the  aforesaie  daie  off  February,  the  Pastor  did  in  his 
owne  name  and  in  the  name  off  the  Elders,  openly  reade  cer- 
teine  written  letters  to  whiche  he  and  the  Seniors  had  before 
in  the  presence  off  the  churche  subscribed  their  names.     The 
summe  theroff  was  this.     Seinge  the  churche  had  left  vnto 
them   a  vaine  shadowe  onelie   off  authoritie   withowte    anie 
other  matter,  that  therfore  they  did  in  oure  presenee  shake 
off  from   themselues  and  vtterly   forsake   all   Ecclesiasticall 
ministerie  and  seruice  to  the  churche. 

Amonge  other  thinges  they  added  this  that  we  had  geuen 
them  a  cause  to  complaine  off  vs  to  the  magistrats,  but 
that  for  oure  sakes  they  woulde  not  do  it.     Afterward  some  of 


LXXIII. 

them  departed  and  sate  downe  in  priuate  mennes  places,  nei- 
ther woulde  they  suffer  so  muche  as  to  be  called  by  the  name 
off  pastors  and  Elders.  Then  one  in  the  name  off  the  whole, 
hauinge  fullie  shewed  before,  that  there  was  no  iuste  cause 
geuen  the  by  thechurche,  so  to  forsake  their  ministerie,  did  after- 
ward in  the  name  of  the  whole  churche  verie  earnestly  desier 
the  that  they  woulde  not  in  suche  manner  forsake  and  leaue 
the  churche  that  had  deserued  no  suche  thinge  at  their  hands. 
This  was  with  moste  earneste  and  effectuall  wordes  re- 
quired off  them,  thre  or  foure  tymes  in  the  name  off  the  whole 
churche,  but  they  remained  willfull  and  obstinate  in  their 
purpos,  not  so  muche  as  once  suffringe  themselues  to  be  called 
by  the  name  off  pastors  and  elders.  Then  at  the  lenght,  it 
was  shewed  vnto  them  in  the  name  off  the  whole  churche, 
that  the  churche  woulde  not  admit  that  their  forsakinge  of  their 
ministerie,  but  would  stil  take  and  esteme  them  for  their 
pastor  and  Elders.  And  when  one  in  the  name  off  the  churche 
did  accuse  the  pastor  and  Chambers  to  be  suche  as  had  abused 
the  churche,  leauinge  it  and  forsakinge  it  in  suche  manner  with- 
owte  anie  cause  or  reason  shewed,  and  did  in  the  name  oft' 
the  churche  desier  them  to  make  answere  vnto  him  concern- 
inge  this  their  dede,  they  vtterlie  refused  the  same.  But  home 
who  then  was  Pastor,  hastely  takinge  a  penne,  wrote  to  this 
purpos  in  a  pece  of  paper  in  his  owne  name  and  in  the  name 
off  the  elders.  Where  as  we  are  vrged  and  pressed  by  one  in 
the  name  off  the  churche  to  make  answere,  we  generally  an- 
swere, that  when  so  euer  we  shal  be  ordinarelie  demaunded  be- 
fore the  churche  or  them  whiche  the  churche  shall  apointe,  we 
will  then  answere,  or  if  we  shall  be  called  before  the  ciuill  ma- 
gistrate we  will  ther  ansvveare.  other  answeare  then  this  they 
woulde  geue  none,  to  anie  off  the  questios  whiche  we  had  pro- 
posed in  all  oure  names  of  the  churche.  (and  they  assigned  this 
writinge  by  puttinge  to  their  names)  where  as  indede  this  was 
not  onelie  to  answere  nothinge  at  all,  but  also  to  preted  a 
cloaked  cause  of  answeringe  nothinge  at  all.  Moreouer,  they 
were  desired  in  the  name  of  the  churche  that  they  woulde  de- 


LXXIIII. 

liuer  to  the  churche  the  letters  signed  withe  their  owne  hades, 
by  vvhiche  they  had  shewed  their  renounsall  and  denyinge  of 
the  ministerie :  or  if  they  woulde  not  do  that,  that  the  against 
a  certeine  daie  they  woulde  graiite  and  giue  to  the  churche  a 
coppie  therof.  But  neither  woulde  they  geue  them  the  letters 
whiche  they  had  in  their  bosome  neither  woulde  promisse  any 
copie  to  the  churche,  who  moste  earnestlie  required  the  same  off 
the.  At  the  laste,  the  pastor  and  elders  departed,  some  cer- 
teine fewe  folovvinge  the,  but  the  multitude  remained  and  so 
farrforthe  as  they  coulde  remember,  committed  to  writinge  the 
actes  off  that  daie  and  the  summe  off  those  letters  (by  whiche 
the  Pastor  and  Elders  had  willingly  put  them  selues  from 
the  ministerie)  ad  for  witnesse  subscribed  thereto  with  thirtie 
and  three  names.  The  next  daie  after,  that  is,  the  3.  off  Fe- 
bruary the  Pastor  and  Elders  beinge  called  off  the  churche  by 
the  Deacon,  to  intreate  off  makinge  peace,  they  came  together 
ad  met.  But  the  Pastor  and  elders  set  them  downe  in  priuate 
places.  Afterwardes,  the  pastor  (because  one  speakinge  in  the 
congregation  did  not  by  and  by  so  soone  as  he  bad  him  holde 
his  peace)  fayned  that  he  woulde  departe.  But  when  he  per- 
ceyued  that  verie  fewe  folowed  him,  and  by  some  consailed, 
he  returned,  and  suddanly  placed  himselff  in  the  pastors  place, 
and  called  the  elders  to  him,  whiche  thinge,  before  he  had 
refused  to  do  although  he  were  by  the  whole  churche  verie 
instantly  and  ernestlie  required  therto.  Then,  he  spake  to  this 
effecte  :  we  in  dede  (saith  he)  did  displace  oure  selues  from  the 
ministerie,  notwithstandinge,  absolutely  and  fullie  we  did  it 
not,  but  vnder  this  condition  onely,  yff  yow  shulde  proceade 
to  deale  in  suche  sorte  as  yow  haue  done  against  the  olde  ad 
receiued  discipline.  Nowe  then,  yff  ye  goo  forwarde  as  yow 
haue  appointed  and  purposed,  then  will  we  wholie  and  alltogether 
displace  oure  selues  from  oure  Ministeries,  but  yff  yow  will 
obaie  the  olde  discipline  then  will  we  continew  pastor  and 
elders  as  we  are.  Answere  was  made  that  there  was  nothinge 
at  all  conteined  in  the  olde  discipline,  wherby  they  might  medle 
with,  or  proceed  againste  the  pastor  and  elders,  iff  parhapps 


LXXV. 

they  were  founde  faultie  and  in  some  offence.  Moreouer, 
that  there  was  nothinge  put  downe  conceminge  suche  causes, 
as  in  whiche  the  pastor  and  elders  were  an  aduersarie  parte, 
and  therfore  it  was  desired  that  they  woulde  suffer  the  dis- 
cipline in  that  behalff  to  be  amended  and  to  be  made  more 
perfect.  Nowe  the  pastor  beinge  offended  as  it  shuld  seeme, 
with  so  free  speeche  woulde  imediatlie  againe  haue  bin  gone, 
and  rann  euen  to  the  churche  dore,  but  yet  seinge  but  fewe 
folowinge  him,  by  the  counsaile  and  aduise  offcerteine  persons 
he  returned,  and  sat  him  selff  downe  in  the  pastors  place  with 
the  seniors. 

And  in  like  sorte,  by  and  by  againe  vppon  the  suddaine, 
he  ran  for  the  thirde  tyme,  but  within  a  litle  while  after  he  re- 
turned and  planted  himselff  in  the  pastors  accustomed  place. 
Afterwards  intretie  was  made  with  the  pastor  and  elders  in 
the  name  off  the  church,  that  they  would  suffer  Ashleis  cause 
(in  whiche  matter  they  themselues  were  founde  at  the  lenght 
to  be  an  aduersarie  parte)  and  the  hearinge  theroff  to  come 
before  the  churche,  And  that  the  churche  woulde  (yff  Ashley 
were  founde  faultie)  verie  sharply  and  seuerely  punishe  him, 
and  in  this  behalff  aboundantly  satisfie  the  pastor  and  Elders 
and  all  good  men.  But  the  pastor  and  Elders  would  at  no 
hande  suffer  that.  And  as  concerninge  the  amendinge  off' 
the  discipline,  the  pastor  saide  that  he  and  the  elders  with  cer- 
teine  others  by  the  authoritie  off  the  church  beinge  ioined  vnto 
them  woulde  (yff  the  churche  so  thought  good)  amende  the 
discipline.  But  answere  was  made  vnto  bothe,  in  the  name 
off  the  churche.  First  that  it  was  verie  vniust  that  the  churche 
shuld  not  be  suffred  to  haue  iudgement  and  determination. 
For  therby  the  authoritie  and  right  off  churche  was  wholie 
as  it  were,  taken  from  the  churche.  To  the  seconde  it  was 
answered  that  sith  suche  ordinaunces  and  decrees  were  to 
be  made,  as  by  whiche  the  Pastor  and  Elders  shulde  be  here- 
after deteined  in  dutie  (some  off  them  also  beinge  already  ac- 
cused) it  shulde  be  vniuste  dealing  to  admit  them  to  the 
framinge  and  makinge   off  suche   decrees.      And  when  they 


LXXVI. 

affirmed  they  would  answere  no  other  thinge,  and  they  were 
desired  to  suffer  thos  things  to  be  comitted  to  writinge  whiche 
were  done  alreadie,  they  woulde  not  agree,  but  the  pastor  say- 
inge  he  was  a  colde  made  himself  ready  to  departe,  ad  goinge 
his  waie  a  fewe  folovvinge  him,  he  pronownced,  that  he  dis- 
solued  the  assemblie.  But  the  companie  that  taried  in  the 
churche  and  wrote  the  doings  of  that  daie  by  their  decree,  and 
appointed  8.  men  to  amend  the  discipline,  and  Afterward  to 
offre  it  the  churche  to  be  seene  of  the,  did  also  apointe  other  8. 
men  (of  whiche  8.  three,  all  waies  stuck  to  the  pastor)  arbitres 
and  iudges  to  decide  the  cause  betweene  the  pastor  and  elders, 
ad  Ashley.  Theis  are  their  names,  maister  Railton,  maister 
Warcope,  M.  Kelke  M.  faulconer,  M.  Bentham  M.  Cockroft, 
M.  Carell  and  M.  Wilson.  Three  off  theis  were  addicted  to  the 
pastor  but  M.  Bentham  and  M.  Kelke  alwais  shewed  them- 
selues  indifferent  and  equall  to  bothe  sides.  From  that  time 
forwarde  the  pastor  and  elders  and  certaine  others  beinge  often 
times  called  of  the  churche,  by  the  Deacons  and  certeine  other 
to  intreate  of  making  peace  and  agrement,  would  neuer  apeere 
or  be  present. 

Morouer  the  pastor  and  the  Deacons,  and  certaine  paine- 
full  poore  men,  ceased  bothe  from  preachinge  and  also  the 
Ecclesiasticall  lectures  and  other  ordinary  functions  and  charges 
whiche  they  ought  to  haue  executed,  neither  woulde  they 
come  to  solemne  and  publick  praiers  in  the  churche.  notwith- 
standing the  churche  yet  thorough  Gods  fauour  obserued 
bothe  publike  praiers,  sermons  and  Ecclesiasticall  lectures, 
and  all  other  things  accustomed  and  minded  to  keepe  them 
so  longe  as  the  godlie  Magistrats  shulde  suffer  and  graunt 
the  same.  And  no  other  matter  did  so  muche  spread  abroad 
throughowt  the  citie  as  the  fame  and  reporte  off  oure  striffes 
and  as  the  dede  off  maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers. 
For  when  they  off  themselues  had  forsaken  the  churche  and 
had  by  their  example  stirred  vp  some  other  with  their  families 
to  do  the  like,  and  some  off  theis  nowe  frequented  and  went, 
partely  to  the  frenche   churche,  and  partly  to  the  Germanie 


LXXVI1. 

churches,  the  matter  nowe  coulde  not  anie  longer  be  hyd  and 
in  secret  seinge  it  was  published  and  knowen  not  thorowe 
the  citie  alone,  but  the  fame  theroff  ran  to  other  strangers  also : 
whiche  matter  and  busines  withe  their  brethern,  woulde  to 
God  they  had  chosen  rather  to  haue  had  it  ended  quietlie 
and  peaceablie  in  their  owne  churche,  then  in  such  troblesome 
sorte  to  haue  consulted  so  greatly,  bothe  to  their  owne  disho- 
nestie  and  oures.  The  fourth  daie  off  Februarie  which  was 
Thursdaie  and  appointed  for  publick  praier,  the  pastor  who 
that  daie  shuld  haue  preached,  and  all  the  Elders  were  absent. 
Nowe  the  pastor  beinge  before  by  the  Deacon  desired  in  the 
name  off  the  churche  that  either  he  himselff  would  preache 
or  apoint  some  other  in  his  place,  made  answere,  that  neither 
woulde  he  preach  himselff  nor  apointe  anie  other.  For  that 
matter  did  nothinge  at  all  belong  vnto  him.  After  praiers 
were  ended  some  there  were  that  disputed  and  reasoned  in 
the  pastors  behalff  and  saide,  that  that  assemblie  whiche  re- 
mained after  the  pastors  departure  (in  as  muche  as  he  had  autho- 
ritie  to  call  together  the  churche  and  to  breake  vp  the  as- 
semblie and  he  goinge  his  waie  saide,  that  he  brake  vp  that 
assemblie)  was  no  lawfull  assemblie.  To  whom  it  was  (in  the 
name  off  the  churche)  answered,  that  Maister  Home  had  put 
owte  himselff  from  his  pastorall  dewtie,  and  therfore,  both 
for  that  matter  and  manie  other  recited  before  amonge  the 
Act.  of  the  2.  daie  of  Feb.  he  had  not  anie  authoritie,  or  any 
maner  of  right  either  to  gather  together  or  to  break  vp  the  as- 
semblie. And  although  it  were  graunted  that  he  were  their 
lawfull  pastor,  yet,  it  was  affirmed  that  the  churche  was  aboue 
the  pastor  and  not  the  pastor  aboue  the  churche  ad  that  ther- 
fore thowghe  the  pastor  departed,  before  the  actes  off  that  daie 
were  confirmed,  and  pronounced  that  he  brake  vp  the  assemblye 
yet  was  the  assemblie  whiche  remained  ad  taried  behind  a  law- 
full  assemblie,  ad  had  authoritie  to  make  effectuall  decrees,  by 
whiche  they  might  binde  all  ad  euery  meber  of  the  churche  with- 
owte  exception.  And  that  this  question  (whither  the  pope  was 
aboue  the  churche  or  the  churche  aboue  the  pope)  was  stirred 
vp  in  the  councelles  off  Constance  and  Basill,  and  was  decided 


LXXVIII. 


also  by  the  authoritie  off  the  schole  off  parise  ioyned  therto. 
Nowe  they  whiche  reasoned  in  the  pastors  behalff  did  seeme 
by  the  space  off  certein  daies  after,  to  approue  thes  2.  coun- 
cils, for  they  placed  the  pastor  aboue  the  churche.     They 
brought  foorth  openly  all  the  olde  store  and  howsholde  stuffe 
of  Pighius  and  Eckius  of  the  primacie  of  the  pope  vnder  the 
name°off  the  Pastorall  authoritie  and  for  the  proffe  theroff. 
The  actes  and  disputations  off  that  daie  were  in  testimonie, 
signed  and  confirmed  with  two  and  thirtie  names.     The  5.  off 
Februa.  Maister  home  and  the  seniors  beinge  required  off 
the  congregation  by  a  deacon  to  come  and  treate  off  reconcili- 
ation woulde  not  appeare.     After  this  there  were  3.  Messen- 
gers sente  from  the  congregation  vnto  them,  off  whom,  one 
was  to  be  specially  reuerenced  off  all  that  be  off  the  congre- 
gation bothe  for  his  age  and  grauitie,  the  other  2  specially  well 
lerned,  to  the  intent  they  shuld  be  moued  by  theis  so  honest  a 
company  off  Messengers  sent  by  the  congregation.      Theis 
men,  whe  they  had  in  the  churches  name  instantly  desired,  and 
praied  them  that  they  woulde  come  to  the   congregation  and 
there    common   brotherly    amonge   themselues    for  a  quyete 
agrement  to  be  had,  so  as  the  matter  might  not  come  to  the 
magistrates  eares,  nor  be  bruted  anie  farther  abroade  to  the 
great  infamie  of  oure  nation,  coulde  do  no  good  with  them  at 
.  all.  for  they  saide  they  woulde  not  come  vnlesse  they  were  ordi- 
narily called.   As  for  other  answere  at  that  present  they  would 
make  none.     When  this  answere  was  declared  to  the  congre- 
gation, it  was  determined  that  for  asmuche  as  R.  Home  had 
openly  put  himself  owte  off  his  pastorshipp  by  writinge  sub- 
scribed with  his  owne  hand,  and  confirmed  the  same  by  wordes 
and   deedes   in   loge    absteining    from    preachinge   and  other 
pastorall  functions,  and   affirminge  that  suche  matters  were 
no  point  off  his  charge.     In  as  muche  as  now  beinge  called  of 
the  churche,  he  will  not  appere,  and  so  absteinethe  all  together 
from  publicke  praiers  and  all  Ecclesiasticall  meetigs  :  And  for 
asmuche  also  as  the  Seniors  come  not  at  the  meetings  of  the 
churche,  leaste  the  congregation  thorough  the  forwardnes  of 


LXXIX. 

the  saied  Robart  Home  and  absence  off  the  Seniors,  beinge 
voide  and  destitute  off  common  praier,  preachinge,  and  read- 
inge  the  scriptures  shulde  be  vtterly  dissolued,  that  certein 
men  shuld  take  charge  off  the  churche  and  for  all  things  to  be 
done  in  the  congregation  as  it  hathe  by  Gods  goodnesse  byn 
yet  hitherto  done. 

other  decrees  also  whiche  are  specified  in  the  Acts  off  the 
2.  daie  off  Februa.  they  established  :  all  whiche  everie  one 
that  was  present  confirmed  by  his  name  subscribed  with  his 
owne  hande,  as  they  were  wont  to  do  in  other  actes  and  de- 
crees.    And  to  the  decrees  off  that  daie  subscribed  33.  hands. 
But  in  this  behalff  bothe  maister  Home  and  maister  Chambers 
and  other  in  their  behalf  did  finde  verie  muche  faulte  with  vs, 
for  that  we  had  proceaded  vnordinarilie,  that  is  (yow  must 
vnderstand)  contrary  to  the  olde  discipline.      For  where  they 
coulde  not  iustly  finde  faulte  with  those  thigs  that  the  churche 
had  done,  they  made  cauillation  at  the  manner  off  doinge  off 
things  as  an  vnordinary  maner.     And  we  answered  as  well 
manye  other  things  grewe  now  by  occasion  off  that  matter,  as 
this  chiefly  :  in  case  Maister  Chambers  or  anie  other  man, 
either  woulde  or  coulde  shewe  anie  ordinarie  waie  in  the  olde 
discipline  wherby  the  congregation,  or  anie  other  might  com- 
mence matter,  and  proceade  against  him  or  againste  a  Senior 
or  Seniors  beinge  accused  :  or  howe  we  might  proceade  ordi- 
narely  according  to  the  olde  discipline  in  causes,  wherin  he 
ad  the  seniors  were  the  one  parte  as  they  nowe  were  proued 
to  be  :    And  yff  Maister  Home,  or   anie   other   man   either 
woulde  or  coulde  shewe  the  tytle  or  wordes  in  the  ould  Dis- 
cipline, wherin  this  ordinarie  waie  is  set  forthe  and  conteined : 
Then  we  would  confesse  that  we  had  gon  amisse  owt  off  the 
ordynary  way  and  olde  discipline.     But  yff  neither  he  nor 
anie  other  woulde  or  coulde  shewe  in  deede,  that  they  would 
not  be  discontent  at  vs  that  reduced  the  congregation  to  their 
right  authoritie  and  amended  that  olde  discipline  as  athinge 
amisse,  or  filled  it  vp  as  a  thinge  vnperfect  and  brought  the 
matter  to   the  hearinge  off  the   churche   as  it  ought  to  be  : 

e  2 


LXXX. 

And  that  they  woulde  at  lenght  geue  oner   to  vaunte  them 
seines  so  off  the  order  whiche  they  neuer  had,  or  to  blame  vs 
hereafter  for  proceading  vnordinarely.     The  summe  off  this 
answere,  we   dyuyded  in  to  certein  Articles,  and  sent  them 
pryuately  to  Maister  Home  to  peruse,  requiring  his  answere 
to  the  same  and  also  we  sticked  them  vpon  the  pulpit  in  the 
churche  where  they  remained  a  great  many  daies.     And  where 
it  was  required  in  that  same  writinge  that.  Maister  Home,  or 
the  Seniors  or  some  other  man   shulde  make  answere  vnto 
thes  matters,  there  is  no  man  yet  hitherto  that  hather  made 
anye   answere,  either  by  worde  or  by  writinge,  sauinge  that 
Maister  Home  fallinge  to  his  olde   generall  answere,   saide, 
he  woulde  make  answere  when  he  were  ordinarely  called  or 
questioned  withe  for  by  this  shift  he  thinkethe  he  vndoeth 
all  dowtes  at  once,  where  as  in  dede,  to  answere  after  that 
sorte,  is  to  answere  nothing  at  all,  but  to  pretend  false  causes 
to  holde  his  tonge  when  he  is  able  to  shewe  no  reason  for 
himselff.     For  this  was  his  meaninge  that  he  is  not  ordinarely 
called  nor  questioned  with  all,  nor  accused  ordinarely,  sauinge 
onely  before  him   selff,  and  the  Seniors  as  Iudges,  Where  as 
they  bothe  in  their  geuinge  ouer  off  their  ministery,  and  in 
the  principall  cause  against  maister  Ashley  were  the  adver- 
sary parte  so  that  by  his  iudgement  there  is  no  ordinary  waie 
to  medle   against  the   pastor   and   Seniors   excepte  they  call 
themselues  to  be  hearers  of  their  owne  cause  and  their  owne 
Iudges    themselues.      For    other    ordinary    waie   against    the 
pastor  and  Seniors  in  that  olde  discipline  off  theirs,  neither  he 
nor  anie  other  shall  be  hable  to  shewe. 

After  this,  when  those  8.  Persons  which  were  appointed  by  ' 
the  Churche  to  heare  the  variance  betwene  Maister  Home 
and  Maister  Chambers  one  thoneside,  and  Maister  Asley 
one  the  other  side,  shulde  proceade  in  the  hearinge  off  that 
matter,  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  whiche  had 
absented  themselues  nowe  11.  daies  from  the  churche  were 
commaunded  by  the  Magistrate  the  12.  off  February  (for 
that    daye,    they   and   certeyne    others   were    seen    with    the 


LXXXI. 

Magistrate)  that  they  shuld  in  no  wise  comme  at  our  church. 
when  we  harde  off'  yt,  we  had  maruell,  fyrste  that  the  matter 
was  comme  to  the  Magistrats  eare  (for  Maister  Home  and 
the  reste  testified  the  2.  off  February  by  their  owne  hand 
writinge,  that  they  would  neuer  open  it  to  the  Magistrate)  and 
secondarely,  seinge  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers 
coulde  by  no  meanes  be  intreated  to  come  to  the  churche  yt 
semed  awonder  that  yt  was  commaunded  by  the  Magistrats 
that  they  shulde  not  come,  as  though  they  had  byne  dcsyrous 
to  come,  whiche  in  dede  neded  not. 

Therfore,  the  moste  parte  thought  that  that  commaunde- 
ment  was  obtained  by  their  owne  sute,  at  the  Magistrates 
hands,  bothe  that  such  persons  as  knewe  not  the  matter, 
shuld  be  perswaded  that  yt  was  longe  off  the  Magistrats 
commaundement  that  they  did  not  their  offices  in  the 
Church.  Where  as  before  this  Commaundement  was  geuen 
they  had  off  a  purposed  frowardnes  absented  themselues 
now  allready  more  then  ten  dayes  from  the  congregation. 
And  also  besides,  that  the  congregation  might  not  pro- 
ceade  agaynst  them  seinge  the  Magistrate  commaunded  them 
that  they  shulde  not  appeere.  And  this  was  the  very  let 
in  dede  why  the  congregation  proceaded  not  in  hear- 
inge  and  determining  off  the  varyance  betweene  Maister 
Home  and  Chambers  off  the  one  partie  and  Ashley  on  the 
other. 

And  in  this  they  burthen  vs  maliciously  with  owte  cause, 
As  thoughe  we  woulde  haue  Ashley  ridd  from  Iudgment 
off  that  matter,  and  as  though  that  were  the  onely  thinge 
whiche  was  sought  in  oure  contention,  where  as  in  decde  yt 
was  longe  off  them  that  his  cause  was  not  determined.  We 
therfore,  hauing  knowledge  off  this  matter,  for  feare  least 
we  shulde  be  falsely  accused,  as  though  we  had  vttered  yt  to 
the  Magistrate,  and  had  seemed,  first  to  haue  accused  our 
brethern  vnto  the  Magistrate,  whiche  we  might  not  abide  to 
do,  assembled  together  in  the  churche  the  13.  off  Februar. 

e  3 


LXXXII. 

and  there  was  openly  recited  in  writing  this  that  folowith. 
Forasmuche  as  oure  contention  is  alreadie  bruted  abroad  not 
onely  through  this  citie  but  also  come  to  the  Magistrats  eare 
(for  we  heare  saie  that  maister  Home  and  maister  Chamber 
were  commaunded  by  the  magistrat  yester  daie  that  is  the 
12.  off  Febr.  that  they  shulde  in  no  wise  come   at  the  con- 
gregation till   the   magistrate  had  fuller  knowledge   off  the 
matter)  we  professe  that  neither  Maister  Home  nor  Maister 
Chamber  nor  no  man  els  was  complained  vpon  to  the  magis- 
trate by  vs  or  any  off  vs,  or  by  oure  meanes,  but  that  we 
sought  rather  by  all  diligent  endeauor,  that  the  matter  shuld 
not   come    abroade,    but    that    all    matters    might    haue   byn 
secretly  agreed  amonge  oure  selues  and  that  we  woulde  all 
men   shulde  vnderstand   by  this   oure  writinge.     This   done, 
those  that  knewe  themselues  to  be  of  an  vpright  cosciece  in 
this  behalf  were  required  to  set  their  handes  to  that  writinge, 
and  so  there  were  37.  hands  subscribed  as  appearethe  in  the 
actes  off  the  13.  off  Febru.      And  where  Maister  Home  and 
Maister  Chamber  beinge  so  often  desyred  by  all  instant  means 
off  the  congregation  that  they  woulde  be  content  to  haue  all 
matters  pacified  amonge  vs  by  brotherly  communication,  did 
neuer  suffer  themselues  to  be  talked  with  all  off  anie  matter, 
leaste  they  shuld  afterward  alleadge  to  suche  as  knewe  not 
the  matter,  that  they  did  it  off  force  bicause  off  the  magis- 
trates commaundement,  whiche  forbad  them  to  come  to  the 
congregation.     All  the  tyme  wherin  they  absented  them  selues, 
and  contemned  so  manie  desires  and  intreties  off  the  churche 
to  haue  met  vpon  agrement  makinge,  before  anie  commaunde- 
ment was  geuen  them  off  the  magistrate  (whiche  commaunde- 
ment notwithstandinge  maie  seeme  that  they  at  lenght  for  the 
causes  before  mentioned  procured  themselues)  was  recorded 
amonge  the  Acts  off  that  13.  off  Febru  and  confirmed  by  the 
testimonies  off  37.  names 'subscribed  as  in  the  acte  appearethe 
more  at  large. 

The  14.  off  Febru  :  those  8.  whiche  were  appointed  the  3. 
off  Febru.  by  the  congregation  to  amende  the  discipline,  pre- 


LXXXIII. 

sented  the  booke  off  the  Discipline  to  the  congregation  agayne 
and  the  congregation  allowed  it.  And  those  matters  that 
were  altered  or  augmented  in  the  discipline  were  such  as  spe- 
cially perteined  to  those  causes,  wherin  the  pastor  and  seniors 
were  the  one  parte,  and  howe  it  muste  be  proceaded  against 
the  pastor  and  seniors,  in  case  anie  off  them  were  accused.  For 
concerninge  theis  thinges  there  was  neuer  a  worde  in  the  olde 
discipline.  And  where  in  the  olde  discipline  there  was  no 
certeine  mention,  howe  the  churche  shulde  be  gouerned,  and 
seinge  maister  Home  and  other  had  now  vtterly  forsaken  the 
congregation,  who  in  leauinge  there  offices  had  drauen  awaie 
with  them  the  moste  parte  off  them  that  were  appoynted 
preachers,  and  disposinge  off  the  churche  monie,  were  more 
largely  and  more  trulie  set  forthe  and  expressed. 

For  where  maister  Chamber  had  authoritie  to  gather  all 
godly  mennes  almese  for  the  poore  off  the  congregation  con- 
firmed vnto  him  (as  he  him  selff  required)  in  writinge,  signed 
by  the  pastor  and  seniors  and  certeine  other  off  the  chieff  men 
off  the  churche  with  their  owne  hands,  and  had  exercised  the 
same  gathering  nowe  a  yere,  and  half,  that  he  alone,  shulde 
receiue  all,  he  alone  distribute,  and  be  accomptable  to  no  ma 
and  he  alone  to  be  priuie  to  the  mony,  that  matter  (were  he 
neuer  so  faithfull  a  man)  semeth  verie  suspitious  to  him  and 
hurtefull  to  the  churche,  yff  he  shulde  dye  suddanly  as  the 
state  off  man  is  casuall  :  And  the  example  also  shulde  seeme. 
pernitious  to  the  churche  least  parhapp  an  other  man  off  small 
fidelitie  shuld  by  the  same  reason  drawe  all  the  churche  mony 
in  to  his  owne  onely  handes. 

And  for  as  muche  as  the  Deacons  (vnto  whom  the  charge 
off  the  churche  monie  semeth  to  apperteine  by  the  worde  of 
God,  and  by  the  example  off  all  rightly  instituted  churches)  in 
oure  congregation  had  not  a  mite  to  bestowe  :  for  their  were 
made  Deacons  honest  men  in  dede,  but  yet  such  as  for  their 
poueritie  semed  not  fit  men  to  whom  the  common  mony 
shuld  be  comitted  :  and  by  that  coulour  Maister  Chamber 
thought  he  might  with  owte  controlinge  receiue  all  the  comon 

E     i 


LXXXIIII. 

monye  in  his  owne  handes  alone.     The  congregation  thought 
good  to  haue  a  deaconshipp  appointed  more  vprightly  accord- 
ing to  the  rule  described  in  the  Actes  off  the  Apostles,  and 
the  example  off  other  Godly  instituted  churches,  and  to  the 
intent  the  Church  mony  might  be  medled  with  all  by  the  Dea- 
cons with  owte  all  suspition  it  is  prouided  in  the  amendinge 
off  the  discipline  that  suche  men  shulde  be  chosen  Deacons,  as 
be  not  onely  off  a  most  aproued  Good  fidelitie,  but  also  suche 
as  were  able  hansomly  to  liue  off  their  owne  withowte  anie 
nede  off  the  Churches  Almes.     And  in  dede  this  seemed  to 
be  nowe  so  muche  the  more  necessary,  for  that  many  com- 
plained :  some  that  the   almes  which   they  receyued    before 
priuatlieoffpriuatefrinds  was  taken  vpp  by  the  waye,  sythens 
Maister  Chamber  began  to  gather,  as  in  dede  Maister  Home 
then   Pastor    threatned   openly    owte    off  the    pulpit   in  his 
Sermon  sayinge  that  he  woulde  stoppe  all  mennes  vents  (as 
he  termed  it)  and  receiptes.     Againe,   some  complaine  that 
they  coulde  haue  nought   at   Maister   Chambers  hande,  but 
after  beseching   and   vnreasonable   longe    delais,    some    that 
they  coulde  haue  nothing  with  owte  bytter  vpbraids  and  some, 
that    they    could    obtaine    nothing    off  gyfte    but    onely   off 
loane,  and  other  some    that   they   coulde  gett  nought  at  all. 
So  that  nowe  it  semed  requisite  off  necessytte   to  seeke  some 
remedie  for  theis  misheues.     All  whiche  complaints  we  shall 
be  constrained  off  extreame  necessitie  to  put  in  to  one  seaerall 
peece   off  worke  touching  the  whole  matter   and   communi- 
catinge   it    to    good    men.       And   concerning    the  Discipline, 
seinge  there  was  no  certeine  expresse  waye  in  the  olde  disci- 
plyne  how  the  congregation  shuld  be  gouerned,  neither  coulde 
anie  longe  quietnes  indure  so  longe  as  Maister  Home  had  the 
gouernement   by  that   discipline.     And    seing  nowe   Maister 
Home    and    Maister    Chambers    haue    vtterlie    forsaken    the 
Churche,  not  onely  themselues,  but  also  haue  drawen  awaie 
with  them  many  other,   and  of  them,  the  most  parte  such  as 
were  appointed  preachers  and  readers  off  the  Scriptures :  so 
as  they  might  plainely  appeere  to  seke  nothinge  ells  but  that 


LXXXV. 

the  congregation  beinge  destitute  off  preaching  and  reading 
(as  thoughe  it  coulde  not  stand  withe  owt  those  men)  shulde 
be  vtterlie  broken  vpp :  the  congregation  was  off  necessitie 
enforced  to  deuise  and  prouide  for  some  certeine  waie  for  the 
gouerning  off  the  churche,  wherby  the  congregation  might  be 
set  at  a  fyrme  and  a  constant  quietnes. 

After  this  14.  off  Februa  2.  preachers  off  the  frenche  and 
Flemishe  Churches  and  Maister  Valeran  pullain  came  to  the 
congregation  with  the  Magistrats  Edicte.  The  meaninge  off 
the  edicte  was,  that  Maister  Home,  Maister  Chambers, 
Maister  Isaac  and  the  reste  off  the  Seniors  shulde  be  restored 
into  their  former  full  authoritie  and  that  Maister  Home 
shulde  do  the  office  off  pastor,  and  they  off  Seniors  in  our 
churche  till  the  Magistrates  might  haue  the  hearing  and  de- 
termining off  the  matter  more  at  large.  And  yt  was  com- 
maunded,  that  all  suche  men  as  had  anie  thing  to  saie  against 
Maister  Home  and  the  reste  shulde  exhibit  the  same  to  the 
Magistrate  in  writing.  Maister  Home,  the  decre  beinge  red 
consulting  first  with  some  off  his  complices,  as  in  a  newe 
matter  that  he  neuer  knewe  before,  said  to  this  effecte : 
that  he  was  ready  to  obeie  the  honorable  Magistrate,  ascon- 
cerninge  other  functions  belonginge  to  the  Pastor,  that  is  to 
saie  consultations  with  the  Seniors  and  administration  off 
discipline,  but  he  woulde  not  medle  with  preaching,  bicause 
his  ministerie  was  infamed  by  some  men,  he  coulde  not  do 
yt  with  owt  the  offence  off  himselff  and  off  many.  Answere 
was  made  in  the  Churches  name  for  that  the  honorable  Ma- 
gistrate had  sent  the  Seniors  againe  to  the  Churche,  the  churche 
was  glad  off  it.  For  they  were  all  sory  for  their  departure 
and  nowe  were  verie  ioyous  off  their  comminge  againe. 
Concerninge  Maister  Home  for  so  muche  as  he  refused  the 
chiefeste  parte  off  the  Pastors  office  wherin  he  hathe  behaued 
himselff  well  (yff  in  anye  thinge  well)  that  is,  in  the  office 
off  preachinge.  Againe,  where  he  woulde  take  vppon  him 
that  parte  wherin  he  is  iustly  reprehended,  as  wantinge 
discretion,  and  sobernes  therin,  that  is,  the  administration  off 


LXXXVI. 

Ecclesiasticall  discipline  with  the  Seniors,  he  ouer  shoteth 
him  selff  in  bothe  thes  pointes. 

Therfore  in  as  muche  as  he  exempteth  himself  from  that 
office  wherin  he  might  profit  the  congregation  :  the  congre- 
<>-atio  in  like  case  will  not  admit  him  to  that  office  wherin  he 
bothe  ill  behaued  himselff  before,  as  the  congregation  (yff 
nede  be)  shall  declare  vnto  the  Magistrats :  wherin  likewise 
the  congregation  cannot  admit  Maister  Chambers  to  the  office 
off  Senior  for  certein  Causes.  And  for  the  rest  off  the  Seni- 
ors, We  (saie  they)  geue  vnto  the  Magistrats  right  humble 
thankes. 

This  done,  those  3.  men  whiche  came  vnto  them  with  the 
Magistrats  edicte,  did  earnestlie  exhorte,  firste  in  the  ma- 
gistrates name  and  eftsones  in  their  owne,  to  fall  to  a  quick 
agremente  amonge  them  selues,  for  that  were  more  honestie 
then  to  accuse  one  an  other  vnto  the  congregation :  Whiche 
thinge,  as  it  is  most  vnworthly  off  Christen  men,  so  is  it  vnto 
vs  specially  that  professe  our  selues  banished  for  the  gospell 
sake.  iVnswere  was  made  in  the  name  off  the  churche  as 
foloweth.  We  wishe  for  a  brotherly  peace  from  the  bottome 
off  our  hartes  praing  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers 
instantly  to  bend  their  mindes  vnto  quietnes,  and  moste 
hartely  besechinge  theis  3  men  our  brethere,  and  banished  for 
the  same  gospell  that  we  are,  that  they  will  helpe  with  their 
authoritie  to  set  a  quietnes  amonge  vs,  so  as  the  matter  shulde 
come  no  more  to  the  Magistrats  eare.  Theis  3.  answered  that 
they  woulde  heare  what  answer  Maister  Home  and  Maister 
Chambers  would  make,  hereto  Maister  Home  answered, 
seing  the  matter  is  allready  before  the  M  the  magistrat  shall 
haue  the  hearing  and  determining  off  it.  Iff  anie  had  ought 
against  him  let  them  put  it  vp  in  writing  before  the  magis- 
trate, for  he  was  ready  to  answere  all  men  and  either  he 
woulde  trie  his  innocencie  or  (being  founde  faultie)  suffer 
punishement  for  the  same.  Maister  Chambers  made  like  an- 
swere  for  himselff. 

Then,  for  as  muche  as  there  could  be  no  other  ende  the 


LXXXVII. 

congregation  requested  those  3.  graue  and  lerned  preachers, 
to  make  reporte  to  the  magistrate  off"  their  desier  And  readi- 
nes  to  haue  agrement.  And  so  they  (as  soone  as  theis  things 
were  put  in  writinge)  departed.  And  the  churche  also  made 
an  acte  off  that  daie  subscribing  with  their  hands  to  the 
same.  The  same  daie  at  after  noone  the  Magistrates  hauing 
more  plaine  intelligence  off  the  matter,  commaunded  by  their 
edicte,  subscribed  with  their  handes,  that  Maister  Home 
and  Maister  Chambers  shulde  medle  no  more  the  one  with 
the  pastorshipp  and  the  other  withe  the  Seniorshipp  till  all 
the  controuersies  were  throughly  harde  and  decided.  And 
commaundement  was  geuen,  that  the  eight  daie  after  (whiche 
was  the  3.  off  marche)  suche  as  had  to  saie  off  anie  parte 
shuld  be  present.  This  matter  was  greuous  to  the  church  (as 
maie  be  thought)  that  things  shuld  growe  to  suche  extre- 
mitie. 

When  they  had  gathered  certeine  matter,  they  exhibited 
it  to  the  Magistrates  when  as  they  came  to  the  Englishe 
churche  where  all  the  company  were  assembled  before  them 
whiche  was  the  last  off  February.  Where  the  Magistrates 
made  an  ende  (by  their  owne  authoritie)  off  the  controuersie 
as  shall  be  saide  hereafter. 

The  laste  off  Feb.  the  Magistrate  came  to  oure  Temple  a 
litle  before  ten  off  the  clock  and  there  off  his  authoritie  re- 
concilied  certeine  off  the  congregatio  that  were  at  variaunce 
amonge  them  selues,  and  tooke  order  that  all  former  offences 
shulde  be  vtterly  extincte  and  buried  in  the  graue  off  forget- 
fulnes.  W'heruppon  at  the  commaundement,  and  in  the  pre- 
sence off  this  Magistrate,  the  parties  ioined  handes  together 
in  token  that  they  were  reconcilied  and  were  Good  frinds  and 
lovers.  Afterwarde,  the  pastor,  Elders  and  Deacons,  were 
put  from  their  Ecclesiasticall  functions  by  an  Edict  signed 
and  subscribed  with  three  off  the  Magistrates  handes  and 
were  all  made  priuate  men,  as  the  rest  off  the  congregation : 
And  by  the  same  edicte  off  the  Magistrates  it  was  decreed 
that  that  congregation  might  freely,    when  they  woulde  chase 

e   6 


LXXXVIII. 

either  them  or  other  ministers,  likewise,  it  was  permitted 
and  graunted,  that  accordinge  to  the  abilitie  off  the  congre- 
gation they  might  chuse  one,  or  many  ministers  off  the 
worde  or  doctors.  Moreouer,  order  was  taken  by  the  same 
Edicte,  that  the  treasure  or  common  monie  off  the  congrega- 
tion shulde  be  kept  and  distributed  by  the  Deacons.  And 
that  the  Deacons  shulde  at  certeine  appointed  times  geue  vpp 
an  accounte  off  it  before  the  Ministers  off  the  worde  and 
Seniors. 

We  were  licenced  by  the  same  Edicte  off  the  magistrats. 
to  drawe  owte  an  Ecclesiasticall  Discipline  wherby  the  con- 
gregation shuld  be  gouerned.  Afterward,  there  was  thankes 
geuen  to  the  magistrate  in  the  name  off  the  whole  congrega- 
tion for  his  singuler  good  will  and  affection  to  the  congrega- 
tion. And  the  magistrate  departed,  wisshinge  well  in  like  sorte 
to  the  companie.  But  by  whose  meanes  the  magistrat  came 
thus  vnto  vs  and  toke  such  order,  or  whither  the  Magistrate 
off  himselff  wrought  this  deuise  we  cannot  certeinly  saie. 
But  that  we  off  the  churche  were  not  the  cause,  that  anie  suche 
thinge  was  done,  we  take  God  and  oure  consciences,  and  the 
magistrate  to  witnes,  who  knoweth  the  whole  matter. 

The  morrowe  after,  whiche  was  the  firste  off  marche  the 
Magistrate  gaue  vs  Counsaile  by  a  fewe  lynes  that  he  wrate 
vnto  vs  to  drawe  forthe  the  Ecclesiasticall  Discipline  owte  of 
hande,  whiles  we  were  as  yet  all  priuate  men  and  therfore 
might  best  take  counsaill,  for  that  that  shulde  be  moste  behou- 
able  for  the  whole  companie :  leste,  that  yff  we  differred  the 
doinge  off  it  vntill  the  Ministers  were  chosen  and  appointed, 
oure  cosultation  shulde  be  more  troublesome,  whiles  the  mi- 
nisters on  the  one  side  and  the  congregation  on  the  other, 
might  pluck  and  force  more  vnto  them  selues  then  off  right 
they  ought.  This  most  wholsome  and  profitable  counsell  off 
the  Magistrate  was  the  nexte  daie  after,  whiche  was  the  2.  off 
marche  proposed  in  the  congregation,  and  it  liked  and  pleased 
the  whole  company,   notwithstanding  bicause  Maister  Home 


LXXXIX. 

made  some  matter,  for  that  some  were  absent  the  matter  was 
differred  vnto  the  nexte  daie. 

The  thirde  off  marche,   by  the  aduise  off  that  Good  and 
godlie  magistrate,  eight  and  thirtie  off  the  congregation  chose 
by  voices   15.   men  to  write  Ecclesiastical  lawes.       Maister 
Home  and  Maister  Chambers   and    almoste    to   the  nomber 
off  14.  moo  sat  by  and  woulde  geve  no  voices,  notwithstand- 
ing that  we  requested  and  intreated  them  :   But  they  required 
they  might  haue  leaue  to  put  downe  there  minds  in  writings 
So  then  beinge  requested  to  write  downe  their  mindes  Maister 
Home  rose   vpp  and    wrate   in   the  paper  in   theis    wordes 
folowinge.     My  minde  is  that  the  olde  discipline  be  kepte 
still  and  not  mended.     Maister  Chambers  and  Maister  Isaac 
and  other  to  the  nomber  off  14.  wrote  downe  their  mynds  to 
the  selff  same  purpose.      Nowe  when  we   saw  farr  beyounde 
^  oure  expectation  and  otherwise  then  we  looked  for  that  there 
"  was  a  newe  distention  arisinge  betweene  vs,  being  set  at  one 
and  recociled  one  to  the  other,   not  scarce  3.  daies  before  and 
in  witnesse  therof  had  geue  handes  eche  to  other  (we  coulde 
not  otherwise  doo  but  be  greued  and  sorowe  greatly,  to  se  the 
growndworke  of  mo  troubles  and  dissentions  laide. 

And   bicause    those.    14.    gaue    to    vnderstande    by    their 
hands  put  downe  vnto  it  in  writinge  that  they  thought  it  not 
Good  to  alter  their  olde  discipline,  to  the  ende  that  it  might 
euidently  appeare,  howe  many  we  were  that  had  consented 
vppon  the  choise  off  15.  men   whiche  shulde  set  downe  in 
writinge  a  forme  off  discipline  accordinge  as  the  magistrate 
had  commanded,  we  on  the  otherside  trusted,  that  we  thought 
it  for  the  behouff  and  profit  off  the  congregation  that  a  forme 
of  discipline  shuld  be  made  and  put  downe    as   the   magis- 
trate   had   commaunded.      And    to    this    determination    and 
sentece    beinge  put  in    writinge,    we  in   nomber  eighte  and 
thirtie  subscribed  oure  names,  with  protestation  that  we  did 
nothmge  but  that  was  Good  and  lawfull  and  accordinge  to  the 
magistrates  will  and  mind  requestinge  them  to  geue  their  con- 
sent and  to  agree  with  vs. 


xc. 


But  they,  after  muche  debatinge  and  many  wordes  to  and 
fro  for  their  olde  discipline,  that  it  neded  not  to  be  displaced 
or  altered,  came  to  this  passe  at  the  lenght,  that  they  saide  (we 
had  to  consulte  off  correctinge  but  not  off  makinge  a  disci- 
The  simple  piine  and  verie  instantly  and  earnestlye  vrged  the  same  vpon 
tf^tiofsthe  wordes  off  that  aduice  and  councell  whiche  the  magistrate 
head-         had  geuen  touchinge  the  spedie  dispatche  off  the  discipline  of 
the  churche  before  the  election  of  the  ministers,  we  therfore 
which  thought  it  not  muche  materiall  whither  it  were  termed 
a  newe  made,  or  a  corrected  discipline  to  haue  no  occasion  of 
dissentio,  chaunged,  oure  copie  and  put  in  in  steade  of  theis 
wordes,  discipline  shulde  be  made,  shuld  be  corrected.     And 
so  those  14.  whiche  made  a  she  we  before  as  though  they  wolde 
not  suffer  anie  one  iote  of  the  olde  discipline  to  be  altered,  ad 
chaunged,  callinge  to  minde  (I  suppose)  either  their  fewnesse 
off  their  nomber  or  the  oddes  off  the  matter  bycause  that  olde 
discipline  was  vtterly  taken   awaie  by  the  Magistrates  edicte, 
the  laste  off  Februa.  as  the  chiefest  cause  off  oure  controuersies  : 
or  ells  foreseinge,  that  the  magistrate  would  be  offended  with 
that  their  dissention  :  they  all  ioyntly  together  Maister  Home 
and  Maister  Chambers  beginninge  the  daunce  put  their  hands 
to  oures,  for  the  correction  off  the  discipline. 
Homeand      Then  did  Maister  Home  request  that  seinge  nowe  they 
/us  com-     1)ad  consented  vnto  vs,  for  the  wrytinge  downe  off  the  disci- 
KSto     pline,  he  and  the  residewe  for  that  fourtene  might  freely  geue 
tJ?aif''r     their  voices  for  the  chosinge  of  those  fourtene  whiche  they  had 
alreadie  appointed  or  some  suche  other  as  they  woulde.     But 
we  bicause  we  had  before  requested  them  to  geue  their  voices 
and  three  refused,  c6sidering  that  those  fourtene  drew  all  one 
line  and  were  fullye  bent  in  all  points  to  do  one  as  the  other, 
beinge  all  like  affected  and  by  that  meanes,  might  off  purpos 
wholie  bestowe  their  voices  vpon  some  certeine,  and  so  ouer- 
throw  oure  election  whiche  they  knewe  already,   denied  to 
graunt  and  suffer  them  and  yet  we  saide,  that  yff  they  woulde 
we  wold  not  refuse  to  appointe  an  other  daie,  to  chuse  the  sayde 
14.  men  or  other,  yet  geuinge  Maister  Home  in   the  meane 


XCI. 

while  to  wit,  that  that  matter  whiche  might  haue  bin  quietlie 
dispatched  in  three  homes,  would  scarsly  by  his  meanes  be 
fynished  in  three  daies. 

At  the  lenght  Maister  Home,  after  consultation  had  with 
certain,  spake  alowde  in  the  name  off  the  fourtene  in  this 
wise. 

Although  (saide  he)  it  were  meete  that  we  all  seuerally 
geue  oure  voices,  yet  that  we  maie  be  no  longer  an  hinder- 
ance,  I  pronouce  in  all  their  names,  that  we  all  do  by  our 
voices  chuse  those  14.  men  Whom  yow  haue  alreadye  ap- 
pointed. When  the  residew  were  asked  whither  they  con- 
sented to  this  or  no  :  Maister  Isaac,  answered  that  all  agreed  : 
otherwise,  yff  anie  were  contrarie  minded  he  woulde  speake. 
And  thus  by  a  generall  consente  off  all  not  one  man  excepte 
fiuetene  men  were  chosen  to  write  Ecclesiasticall  lawes  the 
thirde  off  marche. 

The  15.  Elected  agreed  betwene   themselues  to  assemble  M.  Home 
and  come  together  the  fourth  of  marche  at  one  of  the  cloke  at  uulT 
after  noone.     Whe  they  came  together  ther  was  muche  a  doo  ' 
a  great  while  whither  the  olde  discipline  sliulde  be  corrected 
or  a  newe  made.      We  (of  the  churche)  alleadged  that  all 
occasions  off  olde  controuersies  (wheroff  the  olde  discipline 
but  vnperfecte  and  naught  was  one)  were  vtterly  taken  awaye 
by  the  magistrates  Edicte.  some  vrged  this  worde  corrected, 
or  amended  which  was  in  the  aduise  and  counsaile  that  the 
Magistral  gaue  vs  for  the  spedie  dispatche  off  discipline.    For, 
saide  they,  that  is  not  corrected  whiche  is  cleane  taken  waie.' 
At  lenght,  the  booke  off  the  olde  discipline  and  an  other  off  Thelooh 
the  new  discipline,  whiche  was  corrected  in  the  absence  off°rrdisci- 
maister  Home  and  others  were  read,  and  so  they  departed  for  '^'Ut 
that  daie  appoynting  to  meete  agayne  the  8.  off  marche  tlie^f  ,,W 
same  houre. 

The  8.  off  marche  the  15.  men  assembled  againe  and  there  M.  Home 
agreed  vpon  articles  for  makinge  off  discipline,  whiche  were  mme  ai  & 
set  downe  in  a  paper  and  subscribed  all  vnto  them,  sauinge 
that    maister   Home,    Maister   Chambers   and   Maister   Isaac 


XCII. 

and  Maister  Bentham  woulde  not  subscribe  to  that  Article 
concerning  the  hauinge  off  two  ministers  off'  the  worde,  and 
yet  notwithstandinge  they  all  agreed  vpon  this  that  is  was  a 
matter  indifferent  whither  there  shuldbe  one  or  many  minis- 
ters off  the  worde.  for  it  is  not  defined  in  the  scriptures  but 
left  free.  Afterward  Maister  Hales  gaue  to  Maister  Cham- 
bers a  booke  off  discipline  (which  was  writen  in  the  absence 
off  maister  Home  and  others,  and  was  off  the  same  Articles 
as  the  congregation  had  made  and  agreed  vpon)  that  maister 
Home,  and  he,  and  maister  Isaac  mighte  reade  it  ouer,  and  if 
they  allowed  ought  therin  that  it  might  be  annexed  to  the 
discipline  that  was  in  hande.  But  afterwarde,  when  maister 
Home  through  occasion  off  talke  abowte  the  correctinge  oft' 
the  discipline,  saide  that  there  had  byn  no  other  discipline  in 
the  churche,  but  that  olde  discipline,  and  that  therfore  the 
magistrate,  spake  off  correctinge  off  that  not  off  the  vtter 
abolishinge  theroff  and  that  it  was  answered,  that  that  same 
other  booke  off  discipline  beinge  written  when  he  was  absent 
might  as  well  be  vnderstoode  to  be  ment,  as  that  same  olde 
discipline  :  bothe  for  that  there  was  more  equitie  in  it  and 
also  was  subscribed  vnto  off  so  many  as  well  as  that  olde  dis- 
cipline whiche  he  so  extolled :  Then  maister  Home  brake 
owte  in  to  most  spitefull  wordes  against  all  his  countrie  men 
that  had  agreed  to  that  discipline  which  were  at  the  leaste  36. 
persons,  affirminge  that  all  they  that  had  thus  conspired  to- 
gether for  the  establishing  off  those  articles  (accordinge  to  the 
shortnes  off  the  time  wherin  they  met)  that  they  were  in  a 
certeine  degree,  giltie  off  treason  againste  the  magistrat,  against 
the  Senate,  and  (to  be  shorte)  against  the  whole  citie. 

Then  maister  Hales  (vnderstandinge  by  maister  Homes 
wordes  that  nothinge  was  sought  but  newe  trouble,  and  beinge 
put  in  minde  also  off  maister  Bentham)  reherseth  agayne 
that  booke  off  discipline  which  a  litle  before  was  offred  to 
maister  Chambers  affirminge  that  he  vnderstode,  they  went 
abowte  to  seeke  rather  an  occasion  off  chalinginge  at  the  booke 
by  readinge  off  it,  then  a  way  off  makinge  a  new  discipline. 


XCIII. 

The  eleuenth  off  marche  the  fiftene  men  meete  againe  vpo 
certeine  Articles  to  whiche  (excepte  one  whiche  maister  Home 
and  M.  Chambers  would  not  subscribe)  they  al  subscribed. 

A  litle  before  our  departure  it  was  thought  profitable  that 
those  thinges  which  we  had  collected  and  agreed  vppon  shulde 
be  brought  in  to  a  certeine  forme  of  a  booke,  adding  either 
owte  off  the  olde  discipline,  or  by  occasion,  as  we  were  gather- 
inge  theis  tinges  together  such  things  as  might  seeme  profit- 
able. Maister  home,  and  maister  Chambers  beinge  intreated, 
that  they  would  gather  those  things  in  suche  sorte,  or  ells  be 
present  to  conferre  withe  other  that  reade  :  Maister  Home 
answerethe  that  he  woulde  not,  neither  that  there  was  any 
suche  neede.  The  16.  daie  of  marche  they  met  againe  in  the 
churche  and  there  a  certeine  bill  (in  whiche  were  written 
certeine  articles  tendinge  to  discipline)  is  exhibited  vnto  them 
that  amonge  the  fiften  it  might  be  deliberated  vpon  and  debated, 
maister  Isaac  spake  many  things  verie  sharplie  against  one 
Article  as  verie  daungerous  and  perilous  againste  those  good 
men  through  whose  liberalitie  the  poore  off  the  church  were 
susteined,  and  makinge  wise  as  thoughe  he  woulde  knowe 
the  matter  better,  he  requested  the  bil,  whiche,  beinge  reached 
vnto  him,  he  putteth  it  vp  in  his  bosome,  neither  woulde  he 
geue  it  againe.  And  so  by  this  meanes,  he  tooke  away  the 
matter  for  vs  to  worke  vpon  sith  that  we  had  no  other  copie. 

Afterwarde,  the  booke  in  whiche  those  thinges  were  written 
that  were  agreed  vppon  amonge  the  15.  and  certeine  thinges 
owte  off  the  olde  discipline,  and  other  also  were  gathered  in 
to  some  order  was  brought  owte  amoge  them  to  be  con- 
sulted vpon,  and  beinge  redd,  maister  Home  and  Maister 
Chambers  fyrste  off  all  complained,  that  booke  was  gathered 
they  not  wittinge  theroff,  and  had  byn  longe  beatten  vppon 
amonge  certeine  of  them,  and  therfore  that  it  was  reason  that 
a  copie  shuld  be  geuen  to  them,  and  to  maister  Iaaac  and  a 
farther  tyme  also  to  delyberate,  maister  Isaac  affirmed  that 
he  neded  2.  monethes,  or  one  at  the  leaste  to  consider  off  that 
booke.      It  was  answered  that  although   Maister  Home  and 


XCIIII. 

Chambers  complained  that  they  were  not  admitted  to  the 
collectinge  off  the  booke)  in  that  they  did  vs  wronge,  for  beinge 
of  vs  therunto  required  they  refused  it  and  left  it  to  others. 
In  that  they  required  a  copie,  it  semed  vniuste,  (seinge  that 
the  church  had  decreed,  that  we  the  15.  shulde  debate  together 
as  concerninge  the  writinge  off  the  discipline)  for  that  thinge 
tended  againe  to  a  newe  dissention.  Againe,  that  they  re- 
quired so  longe  a  tyme  to  deliberate,  and  especially  Maister 
Isaac,  it  was  moste  vniuste.  For  seinge  the  marte  was  nowe 
at  hande,  it  was  profitable  or  rather  necessarie  that  oure 
churche  shulde  with  spede  be  established  and  oure  ministers 
elected  leaste,  to  oure  great  infamie,  men  comminge  hither 
owte  off  all  Europe,  they  might  also  se  the  broyles  off  oure 
churche  and  so  spread  them  farr  abroad  amoge  all  nations : 
more  ouer  :  that  it  woulde  fall  owte  to  the  great  hurte  off  the 
poore,  yff  godly  men  being  offended,  with  oure  dissentions, 
(beinge  before  beneficiall  to  the  poore)  withdrawe  nowe  their 
liberalitie,  and  that  therfore  there  was  nede  off  spedie  helpe  in 
pacifiynge  and  quietinge  the  churche  before  the  marte  beinge 
nowe  at  hande.  Maister  Home  answereth,  that  he  requireth 
not  to  muche  tyme  2.  or  8.  daies  shulde  be  enough  for  him  to 
deliberate,  notwithstandinge  that  the  copie  ought  to  be  graunted 
for  no  lesse  tyme,  seinge  many  thinges  were  conteined  in  that 
booke,  and  some  also  darke  and  dowtefull  thinges  and  to  him 
before  that  tyme  vnharde  off,  or,  at  the  least,  vnknowen  : 
and  that  therfore  he  requested  that  all  shulde  be  asked  ma  by 
ma.  whither  they  thought  not  this  reasonable  ad  iuste  that  he 
required.  For  if  to  the  moste  it  shulde  seeme  reasonable  he 
would  at  anie  hande  hauie  a  copie  off  that  booke.  Euery  man 
therfore  was  asked,  beginninge  at  Maister  Bentham  :  he,  aswell 
for  the  causes  before  alleadged  as  also  that  no  occasion  ofi' 
wranglinge  might  arise  off  the  booke,  and  leaste  the  booke 
shulde  come  to  the  handes  off  anye  other  before  it  were 
brought  to  the  congregation,  and  for  certeine  other  causes, 
thought  it  not  meete  that  anie  copie  shulde  be  geuen  to  anie, 
but  that  the  booke  shulde  be  brought  foorthe  amonge  them,  and 


xcv. 

all  they  hearing  it  that  were  appointed  off  the  congregation, 
it  shulde  be  after  read  and  that  tyme  enoughe  shulde  be  geuen 
to  stande  vpon  euerie  decree   and  sentence  and  more  exactly 
to  examin  them  :  and  that  this  seemed  to  him  very  iuste  and 
reasonable.    And  this  iudgement  is  condescended  to  off  all  the 
reste,  and  so  Maister  Home  leaueth  off  from  reqnestinge  the 
copie.  Afterwardes,  the  booke  is  begonne  to  be  redd,  from  the 
beginnige,  and  in  examininge  off  euerie  off  the  decrees  longe 
time  is  spente,  and  off  some  articles  in  the  beginninge  mutche 
disputation  and  debatinge  is  had.     But  Maister  Home,  Maister 
Chambers  and  Isaac  beinge  asked  their  iudgemets  would  not 
answere,  no,  not  in  the  moste  plaineste  maters,  and  knowe  of 
all  men,  either  to  allowe  or  disalowe,  as  for  exaple  :  There  was 
one  article :  we  professe  the  selfsame  doctrine  which  is  con- 
teined  in  the  Canonicall  bookes  off  all  the  holie  scripture,  to 
witt,  in  the  bookes  off  the  olde  and  newe  Testamente,  in  whiche  Yff  mats- 
is  conteined  fullie   all   doctrine  necessary  for  oure  saluation.  foo^  SKCj 
To  this  and  suche  other  beinge  moste  plaine  and  manifeste  deliheratto 
maister   Home  answered  as  to  all   thother    that  he   woulde  %oould  sub- 
answere  nothinge  with  owte  great  deliberation.     By  whiche  Jjjjfjjj 
his  doinges,  he  gaue  occasion  to  all  men  to  wonder.     And  so,  tide:  what 
some  other  decrees  off  that  booke  beinge  examined  a  meet-  ]£? i^at 
inge  off  the  15.  was  appointed  againste  the  nexte  daie,  and  so  P°orc  W'>- 

TCLTlt  7)l€H 

they  departed.     The  nexte  daie  beinge  the  17.  off  march  and  andwemen 
againe  the  daie  folowinge  beinge  18.  twelue  off  the  15=  mette.  mff  *!'"* 

o  o  o  subscribe 

For  Maister  Isaac,  Maister  Home  and  Chambers  came  not.  vpb  the 
Vpon  bothe  daies  the  discipline  was  more  diligently  read  and  *'//,^  "  ° 
examined,  and  off  eleuen  off  them  whiche  were  appointed,  newgaU. 
alowed  and  subscribed  vnto.     Vpon  the  20.  daie  off  marche 
the   discipline   was  offred  to  the  whole  congregation,   that  it 
might  of  them  either  in  the  whole  or  in  parte  be  alowed  or 
disalowed,  and  the  same  daie  was  it  twise  reade  ouer. 

After  the  readinge  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers 
require  a  copie  off  the  discipline,  that  at  their  leasure  they 
might  farther  deliberate  vpo  it.  It  was  answered  that  it  was 
to  be  opely  read  and  reade  againe,  bothe  to  them  and  others, 


XCVI. 

as  often  as  they  woulde,  with  time  ynough  geue  to  euery 
man  more  diligently  to  examine  euerie  Artikle,  but  seinge 
the  Magistrate  had  commaunded  that  we  shulde  exhibite  to 
them  a  copie  off  the  discipline  turned  into  latin,  so  soone  as 
possible  might  be,  Therfore  we  durste  not  scatter  any  copie 
before  the  Magistrate  had  seene  it.  Besydes  that  we  feared 
leaste  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  (Who  were 
amonge  the  15.  (appointed)  off  the  church e  for  the  wri tinge  off 
the  discipline  who  might  also  when  they  woulde  not  onely 
heare  the  discipline  but  also  examine  the  same  diligently,  and 
yet  woulde  not  meete  with  the  others  at  the  appointed  time) 
would  requeste  a  copie  not  so  muche  to  knowe  the  discipline 
as  to  sturre  vpp  newe  broiles.  Neuertheles  when  the  Magis- 
trate had  once  seene  it,  leaue  to  be  geuen  to  anye  man  that 
woulde  to  se  it.  Withe  this  answere  they  and  some  others 
beinge  offended,  at  the  second  readinge  off  the  discipline  they 
departed  a  waye  and  abstained  agayne  with  their  whole  hous- 
holdes  from  the  churche,  from  publick  praiers  and  sermons 
whiche  thinge  blewe  vp  and  increased  the  reporte  off  our 
disagrements  and  striffes.  Neither  woulde  they  from  that 
time  forwarde  vnlesse  they  were  commaunded  by  the  magis- 
trate come  to  the  churche  when  as  notwithstandinge  they 
coulde  not  shewe  vs  anie  iuste  cause  to  be  giuen  them  why 
they  shulde  so  departe  from  the  churche  and  refraine  the 
publicke  prayers  and  godly  sermons,  as  yff  we  had  byn 
Ethnickes  or  publicannes. 

The  25.  daie  oure  discipline  was  read  the  3.  time,  and  the 
26.  daie  it  was  read  the  forthe  tyme  by  the  commaundement 
off  the  Magistrate  at  the  reading  wheroff  all  Englishe  men 
that  were  off  the  churche  were  commaunded  to  be  present. 
The  30.  off  marche  it  was  read  the  fyfte  tyme  and  so  at  diuers 
times  there  subscribed  42.  in  the  good  allowance  theroff 
whiche  was  the  greater  parte  by  a  greate  deale  off  the  churche. 
For  the  whole  churche  at  that  present  had  not  aboue  :  62. 
And  bycause  nowe  the  marte  was  at  hande,  that  there  might 
be  some  better  forme  off  a  well  ordred  churche  :  fine  were 


xcvir. 

appointed  off  the  churche  the  20.  off  marche  to  nominate  cer- 
teine  from  amonge  whom,  accordinge  to  the  Magistrates  de- 
cree shulde  be  chosen,  the  Ministers  off  the  worde,  Seniors 
and  Deacons.  The  21.  off  marche  the  names  off  twentie  men 
or  there  abowte  were  proponed  to  those  fiue  appoynted  off 
the  churche  and  ther  with  all  declared  that  yff  anye  woulde  or 
coulde  reproue  anye  off  them  that  were  named,  either  in 
doctrine  or  manners,  they  shulde  shewe  it  the  23.  daie  after. 
Vpon  the  23.  daie,  none  fyndinge  anie  faulte  in  anie  of  those 
whose  names  were  propounded,  it  was  agayne  decreed  that 
yet,  yff  they  had  anie  thinge  to  saie  against  anie  man  they 
shulde  declare  that  the  21.  daie  folowing. 

The  25  off  marche  Maister  Chambers,  maister  Binkes, 
Maister  Ade,  Maister  Brikbek  maister  Bentham,  who  were 
amonge  them  that  were  named,  tolde  the  churche,  that  yf 
peraduenture  they  shulde  be  chosen,  for  certeine  causes  they 
coulde  not  serue  the  churche,  and  that  they  signified  this  to 
the  churche  in  time  leaste  the  election  were  frustrat.  But 
when  no  man  coulde  obiecte  anie  faulte  in  theis  or  other 
that  were  named  :  the  election  off  the  Ministers  was  made 
the  29.  off  marche,  and  the  ordeininge  off  them  that  were 
chosen  was  appointed  of  the  churche  the  daie  folowinge. 
In  the  meane  season  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers 
and  certaine  other  lefte  not  off  to  sue  to  the  Magistrates 
that  bothe  oure  election  might  be  hundred,  and  also  that 
it  might  be  lawfull  for  them  to  be  off  our  churche,  and 
yet  not  to  subscribe  to  oure  Dysciplyne,  the  thinge  that 
they  them  selues  notwithstanding  would  neuer  graunt  to  anye 
others. 

The  27.  off  Marche  after  dynner  it  began  to  be  muttred 
off  certeyne  that  the  Magistrate  had  forbydden  that  we 
shulde  go  forwarde  in  the  election,  the  whiche  thinge  surely 
greued  vs  :  for  by  that  meanes  we  sawe  that  we  shulde 
haue  no  forme  of  a  Churche  before  the  marte  and  that  ther- 
fore  we  shulde  become  a  reproche  to  all  men,  which  seemed 


XCVIII. 

shulde  be  spred  amonge  all  nations.  But  this  rumor  was 
altogether  vaine,  for  the  28.  of  marche  which  was  the  daie  be- 
fore the  election  shulde  be,  after  the  sermon,  the  decree  of  the 
Magistrate  was  openly  reade  in  the  churche,  wherin  it  was 
commaunded  that  we  shulde  take  in  hand  and  performe  the 
election  off  the  Ministers  in  the  same  order  and  vpon  the 
same  daie  that  we  had  apointed,  and  that  all  Englishe  men 
that  were  off  oure  churche  shulde  be  present  the  same  daie, 
at  the  election,  and  geue  their  voices. 

The  29.  daie  off  Marche  after  praiers,  the  sermon  and 
publique  faste,  a  litle  before  twelue,  the  election  off  the 
Ministers  began  to  be  made  and  when  we  were  in  the  middeste 
off  the  election  :  Maister  Home  Maister  Chambers,  and  others 
to  the  nomber  off  18.  men,  (who  before  were  neither  with  vs 
at  the  sermon,  nor  at  praiers,  but  had  kepte  themselues  in 
some  howses  not  farre  from  the  churche,  beinge  warned  of 
their  side  that  had  watched  vs  in  the  churche)  came  in  sud- 
danlie  on  a  troupe  together  in  to  the  churche  and  there  eche 
one  striuethe  who  shall  caste  in  his  bill  firste,  Vpon  the  table 
standinge  in  the  middeste  off  the  churche,  all  whiche  bylles 
conteined  one  matter  and  writen  almost  with  like  wordes,  to 
witt,  that  they  coulde  not  geue  their  voices  in  the  same  elec- 
tion, bicause  they  coulde  not  off  their  consciences  alowe  that 
discipline  by  whiche  the  election  was  made.  And  that  they 
might  enlarge  their  nomber,  they  brought  with  them  2.  billes 
off  those  that  were  absent  and  off  some  others  whiche  neuer 
were  accompted  off  the  churche.  And  so  after  they  had 
troubled  oure  election,  and  after  Maister  Home  also,  walking 
with  an  other  a  litle  while  ouerwhart  in  the  middest  off  the 
churche,  all  in  a  manner  departed  againe. 

Afterwards  the  election  was  fully  ended,  at  one  off  the 
clock  at  afternoone,  there  were  chosen  2.  Ministers  off  the 
worde.  6.  Seniors  and  4.  Deacons.  No  we  the  Deacons  were 
(besides  the  wonted  custome  off  oure  churche)  off  the  nomber 
off  those  that  coulde  lyue  of  their  owne,  for  that  the  common 
treasure   mi<^ht   seeme    withovvte    all    suspition   to    be    com- 


XCIX. 

mitted  to  suche  rather  then  to  the  poorer  sorte.  Nowe,  in 
that  maister  Home  neither  anie  off  the  other  that  were  before 
in  the  Ministerie  (excepte  onely  maister  Willforde)  were  chosen 
againe  to  the  Ministerie,  was  specially  through  their  owne 
faulte.  For  Maister  Home  neuer  almoste  ceased  for  certeine 
daies  to  professe  openly  that  he  woulde  neuer  exercise  againe 
anie  Ecclesiasticall  ministerie  in  that  churche,  and  beinge  be- 
fore appointed  by  the  magistrate  to  preache  in  oure  churche  he 
would  neuer  so  muche  as  once  preach.  And  maister  Cham- 
bers, when  his  name  amonge  the  reste  to  be  chosen,  was  pro- 
pounded, the  25.  off  marche  he  professed  openly  in  the  churche, 
(all  men  hearinge  it)  before  the  election,  that  though  he  were 
chosen  off  vs  to  some  Ministerie,  yet  that  he  woulde  neuer 
vse  it  :  And  therfore  that  we  shulde  not  in  anie  case  chuse 
him  vnlesse  we  woulde  haue  oure  election  to  be  frustrate. 

Wherfore,  it  is  no  maruell,  yff  they  were  not  chosen,  who, 
least  they  shulde  be  chosen  did  them  selues  openly  denounce 
it.  And  therfore,  in  this  they  do  vs  great  wronge,  that  would 
seeme  to  beare  men  in  hande,  that  they  were  at  the  firste 
thruste  owte  off  their  ministerie  by  vs,  or  longe  off  vs  thev 
were  not  chosen  in  againe. 

o 

Maister  Isaac  in  like  manner,  Maister  Binks  Maister 
Brickbek  and  Maister  Escote  openly  professed  that  they  woulde 
in  nowise  vse  any  publique  ministerie  in  oure  churche.  And 
here  vpon  it  came  specially  to  passe  that  onely  Maister  will- 
ford,  (who  had  not  made  anie  suche  exception)  was  from  amonge 
the,  which  were  before  in  the  ministery  chosen  agayne. 

The  thirde  off  Aprill  the  Magistrate,  who  desired  that  theis 
churche  dissentions  off  oures  might  be  pacified  and  quieted, 
and  he  now  bicause  off  the  marte  had  no  leasure  to  do  the 
same,  writeth  his  letters  to  D.  Cox,  D.  Sandes  and  maister 
Bartue  in  whiche  he  exhorte[t]h  them,  that  they,  yff  they  coulde 
by  anie  conueniente  meanes,  as  arbitres  off  some  estimation 
ende  this  striffe  amonge  vs. 

Nowe  when  either  side  was  come  before  them  and  all  we 
in  the  name  off  the  churche  (for  all  had  graunted  oure  con- 


c. 


trouersies  to  be  harde  and  determined  with  owte  anye  excep- 
tion at  all  to  them  and  to  other  arbytres,  what  so  euer,  whom 
they  shulde  call  vnto  them)  and  had  offred  this  thinge  to  the 
arbytres  written  and  all  oure  names  subscribed  vnto  it : 
Maister  Home,  Maister  Chambers  and  others  firste  requested 
that  maister  Home  might  be  restored  to  his  office  off  pastor- 
shippe,  Maister  Isaac  Maister  Chambers  and  others,  into  their 
offices  off  Seniors  and  the  olde  discipline  into  his  former 
place  and  autoritie,  so  as  they  were  in  the  beginninge  off  theis 
controuersies.  For  then  (said  they)  will  we  leaue  all  con- 
trouersies  to  the  arbitres.  When  we  had  refused  this  as 
moste  vniuste  and  vnreasonable,  then  they  requested  that 
seinge  we  woulde  not  restore  the  olde  discipline,  and  them  to 
their  former  authoritie,  that  then  we  would  suffer  oure  disci- 
pline and  Mynisters  to  be  none  otherwise  then  their  olde  with- 
owte  all  authoritie  and  no  minister  at  al,  nor  discipline  to  be 
in  oure  churche  but  that  the  matter  shulde  remaine  in  that 
state  and  condition  that  it  was  in  the  last  off  February,  when 
the  Magistrate  hauinge  put  all  the  ministers  from  their  offices 
departed  fro  vs,  and  so  shuld  the  mater  be  lefte  to  arbitres. 

Whan  we  remembred  what  and  howe  great  trauelles  that 
discipline,  election  off  Ministers  had  coste  vs  and  sawe  that 
by  this  meanes  oure  churche  shulde  be  made  destitute  off 
Ministers  and  a  large  windowe  to  be  opened  for  newe  con- 
tentions, and  had  also  denied  that  thinge,  Maister  Home  re- 
quested that  it  might  be  lawfull  for  him  to  goo  a  litle  a  side 
and  10  consulte  with  some  off  his  side  abowte  the  whole  matter. 
A  litle  after  returninge  againe  and  sainge,  that  they  woulde 
leaue  no  waie  vnsought  after,  wherby  peace  might  be  gotten, 
although  they  yelded  muche  from  their  right.  Then  he 
readeth  a  certeine  bill  to  those  3.  (appointed  off  the  magistrate) 
and  to  vs  writen  in  his  owne  name  and  the  names  off  others 
which  I  haue  added  vnder  here  writen  worde  for  worde,  least 
anie  man  shulde  thinke  that  anie  thinge  off  purpose  were 
altred  by  vs.        The  Bill  off  maister  Home  and  Others. 

We  offre  and  permit  with  moste  willinge  myndes  (hauinge 


CI. 

the  licence  of  the  magistrate  as  it  maye  well  be  for  this  pur- 
pose) that  all  oure  controuersies  and  contentions,  what  so  eucr, 
whiche  haue  byn  sowne  and  brought  in  amoge  vs  sithes  the 
beginnige  of  this  breache,  and  synce  the  firste  daie  we  began 
to  striue,  vntill  this  present  time  and  houre :  to  be  debated 
decided  and  determined  by  Arbytres,  beinge  none  off  this 
oure  congregation,  and  yet  from  amonge  the  brethern,  oure 
countrie  men,  equally  and  indifferently,  by  the  parties  dis- 
agreinge,  to  be  chosen  vpon  this  condition,  that  not  onely  the 
election  off  Mynisters  and  besides  all  others  thinges  don  by  the 
order  off  the  saied  discipline,  stande  in  suspence,  to  be  allowed 
or  dissalowed  by  the  determination  and  iudgemente  off  the 
arbytres  to  be  chosen  as  is  aforesaide  writen  the  5.  off  Aprill. 
Anno  1557. 

And  that  the  indifferent  reader,  maie,  by  comparinge  their 
offre  and  oures,  se  whiche  is  moste  resonable,  we  haue  added 
oures  also,  writen  owte  worde  for  worde  as  we  offred  it  vpp 
before  the  forsaied  Maister  Bartue,  D.  Coxe  and  D.  Sandes 
and  to  the  dissentinge  brethern. 

The  copie  wheroff  is  this. 

We  submit  our  selues  and  are  contented  to  commit  all 
maner  off  controuersies  that  haue  heretofore  rysen  amongest 
vs  in  the  churche,  to  suche  Arbitres  as  the  magistrate  hathe 
apointed  and  to  all  suche  as  they  call  vnto  them  to  the  hearinge 
ad  determininge  therof,  accordinge  to  gods  word  and  godd 
reason.  And  thus  symplie  and  plainely  withowte  anie  manner 
off  exception  or  condition.  In  witnes  wheroff  we  haue  sub- 
scribed oure  names  the  5.  off  Aprill,  Anno  1557. 

Thow  maiste  se  here,  gentle  reader,  that  albeit  we  had  oure 
Discipline  writen  and  allowed  off  a  11.  off  the  15.  men  whom 
the  congregation  by  the  Magistrates  authoritie  had  apointed, 
to  wit,  the  Dyscipline,  and  therupon  confirmed  with  the  hands 
off  41.  men  which  was  the  greateste  parte  off  our  churche  by 
a  great  deale :  Albeit  we  had  also,  all  eccle[si]asticall  ministers, 
by  the  magistrate  decree,  and  the  authoritie  of  the  congrega- 

F 


GIT. 

tion  lawfully  elected,  yet  for  quietnes  sake,  we  put  all  to  the 
Arbitres  wholie,  either  to  be  allowed  or  disalowed  with  owte 
anie  manner  off  exception.  But  maister  Home  and  maister 
Chambers,  and  others,  sekinge  more  their  owne  will  then  anie 
quiete  agremente,  woulde  not  at  the  first  admit  those  three 
Arbitres  appointed  off  the  magistrates.  For  Maister  Home 
made  exception  againste  some  off  them.  And  afterwardes 
woulde  abide  no  order  or  offre,  vnlesse  we  wrolde  with  oure 
subscriptions  suffer  and  commit  oure  discipline,  the  election 
off  ministers,  and  all  other  matters  off  oure  churche  to  stande 
in  suspence  (as  they  call  it)  so  that  by  their  dryfte  we  shulde 
haue  had  no  discipline,  no  certein  ministery,  no  order  and  so 
consequently  no  churche.  They  would  that  thies  Arbiters 
shulde  be  chosen  indifferen[t]ly  from  amonge  suche  as  were 
oure  countrie  men,  But  not  of  oure  congregation,  so  that  it 
T/ieis  three  shulde  be  lawfull  for  them  to  chuse  where  they  lyste  and  whom 
hnftZr  tney  ^Ste*  Nowe  consider  with  me,  who  so  euer  thow  arte 
beinge  owte  (indiffe[re]nt  reader)  yff  we,  firste  hauinge  geuen  and  sealed  oure 
Englishe  writinge  in  the  name  off  the  whole  churche  had  granted  our 
churches,  discipline,  ministers,  and  all  other  orders  off  oure  churche  to 
stande  in  suspence,  vntill  they  shulde  either  be  allowed  or 
disalowed  of  the  arbitres  chosen  in  suche  sorte,  and  till  maister 
Home  and  Maister  Chambers  accordinge  to  their  canuasinge 
craftines,  nowe  ynough  and  more  then  ynough  knowen  vnto 
vs,  had  chosen  Arbitres  for  their  parte  owte  off  farr  places, 
who  either  coulde  not  or  ells  woulde  not  meete  together 
abowte  this  matter,  or  (whiche  was  moste  certeine  to  come 
to  passe)  yff  Maister  Home,  and  Maister  Chambers  vvherso- 
euer  at  lenght  they  had  choosen  arbitres,  had  not  for  all  that 
chosen  suche  for  their  side,  who  vnlesse  thinges  were  don  ac- 
cordinge to  their  owne  minde,  would  decree  nothinge  at  all. 
But  the  Arbitres  disagrcinge  on  bothe  sides,  the  matter  shulde 
be  lefte  vndon  :  what  then  shulde  haue  become  off  oure 
churche,  with  thies  their  suspensyue  ministers,  and  withe  the 
discipline  and  all  other  thinges  ?  For  the  condition  offred 
vpp    off   Maister   Home    and    Maister    Chambers    was    de- 


cm. 

clared  to  be  this,  that  so  longe  all  shulde  remaine  in  suspence 
till  they  shuld  be  allowed  or  disalowed  by  the  arbytres  :  so 
that  yff  the  arbyters  shulde  haue  bin  deuided  equally  (as 
many  times  it  comethe  to  passe)  the  Ministers  off  the  churche 
might  determine  nothinge,  but  the  Discipline  and  all  other 
thinges  muste  continually  hange  in  suspence.  Againe,  the 
churche,  thoughe  it  were  in  great  perill  and  daunger,  yet, 
least  it  shulde  leaue  anye  waye  vnproued  for  the  obtayninge 
off  peace,  bicause  they  thought  that  some  off  those  three  were 
not  meete  whom  the  magistrates  had  appointed  for  Arbitres, 
offred  vpp  an  other  bill  conteining  alltogether  the  selff  same 
matter,  and  write  withe  the  same  wordes,  that  they  woulde 
stande  to  the  Iudgement  off  any  other  Arbitres  who  so  euer, 
beinge  chosen  indifferently  by  the  other  partie  from  amonge 
oure  countrie  men,  and  leaue  all  thinges  to  them  plainely  and 
symplie  withowte  anie  exception  or  condition  to  be  determined 
and  decided.  But  they  would  allowe  no  condition  offred  off 
vs  vnlesse  we  woulde  firste,  by  the  subscribinge  off  oure 
names  allowe  that  moste  vniuste  and  vnreasonable  condition 
off  thers,  and  by  oure  preiudice  condemne  oure  Mynisters, 
oure  Discipline  and  all  other  thinges  that  we  had  donne.  And 
so  by  this  meanes  had  opened  a  gapp  to  them  to  ouerth[r]owe 
oure  churche.  And  when  they  had  thus  behaued  them  selues 
before  Maister  Bartue  D.  Cox  and  D.  Sandes,  yet  certeine 
off  them  (when  nowe  the  marte  was  in  the  chieff  flowre)  re- 
ported through  owte  the  whole  cytie  that  we  had  reiected  their 
most  iuste  and  peaceable  requestes  and  that  we  were  allto- 
gether troublesome  men,  and  plainely  bent  to  suffer  no  peace 
nor  quietnes,  howbeit,  we  had  rather  that  they  shuld  shewe 
theis  thinges  that  are  false  off  vs  to  others,  then  that  they 
together  with  others  shulde  openly  deride  oure  follie  (yff  we 
had  yelded  to  such  requests)  as  they  that  with  oure  great  toile 
and  trauell  had  (to  the  quiete  off  the  churche)  establyshed 
some  churche,  and  nowe  vppon  a  suddaine  by  the  subscrib- 
inge off  one  bill  thorough  headinesse  and  foolishe  facilitie 
shulde  haue  ouerthrowen  the  whole.     But  they,  when   they 

f   2 


CTIII. 

coulde  not  obtaine  this,  went  abowte  this  verie  buseiie,  that 
the  whole  churche  might  then  be  dissolued  and  broken  vpp. 
For  Maister  Chambers  for  halff  a  monethe  space  and  more 
would  geue  nothinge  to  anie  man  that  remained  in  the  churche, 
and  folowed  not  maister  Home  and  him  departinge  from  the 
churche. 

To  certeine  other  also  he  woulde  geue  nothinge  at  all 
whiche  were  in  the  publique  Ministerie,  to  preache  the  word 
and  reade  lectures,  and  also  in  the  exercise  of  disputinge  by 
his  owne  appoyntemente  and  the  order  taken  by  Maister  Home 
alwais  from  the  time  sithens  they  came  to  oure  churche, 
when  nowe  they  were  for  their  bourde  in  debte  to  their  hos- 
tesses for  4.  monethes,  neither  had  don  anie  other  faulte,  vn- 
lesse  it  were  bicause  they  remained  in  their  functions  offpreach- 
inge  and  readinge  lectures  in  whiche  they  were  placed  by 
Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers,  leaste  the  churche 
shuld  altogether  be  destitute  bothe  off  sermons  and  lectures  : 
Onely  bicause  in  this  dissention  they  agreed  not  with  them 
and  tooke  their  partes,  and  had  with  them  withdrawen  them- 
selues  from  the  churche  that  it  might  be  vtterlie  scattered, 
whe  as  notwithstandinge  (which  is  moste  vnhonest)  they  had 
promised  to  geue  3.  monethes  warninge  before  they  woulde 
forsake  them  :  whiche,  notwithstandinge  Maister  Chambers 
affirmed  they  woulde  neuer  do  vnlesse  it  were  that  they  were 
const[r]ainedby  extreamenecessitie.  Abowte  the  middest  off  the 
marte  or  a  litle  after  ther  begaiie  a  rumor  to  be  spread  off  the 
departure  of  maister  Home  and  maister  Chambers  from  this 
citie,  but  whither  they  woulde  go,  or  whither  they  woulde 
at  all  departe,  it  was  yet  vncerteine.  For  neither  was  it  likely 
that  maister  Chambers  hauinge  gathered  so  muche  common 
mony,  and  that  by  the  authoritie  and  in  the  name  off  the 
churche  seinge  he  had  bin  here  so  longe  with  owte  makinge  off 
anie  accoumpte  to  the  churche,  woulde  go  awaie  in  suche  sorte. 
Neither  was  it  credible  that  M.'Horne,  who  had  gouemed  in 
his  pastorall  office  and  charge  so  longe  (no  reconciliation 
nor  pacification  beinge  made  for  so  great  offences)  woulde  so  de- 


cv. 

parte,  yea,  not  so  muche  as  haue  taken  his  leaue  of  the  church e. 
In  the  meane  time  it  is  incredible  to  be  spoken,  but  more 
shameful  to  be  hearde,  what  reportes  certeine  had  spred  that 
marte  tyme  secretly  and  especially  amonge  the  rycher  sorte 
that  were  able  to  helpe  the  poore  off  oure  churche,  forsoothe, 
that  there  were  certeine  traitors  amonge  vs.  That  we  desired 
to  knowe  the  names  off  those  persons  that  were  liberall  to- 
wardes  the  poore  off  oure  churche,  to  the  ende  to  betraie  them 
and  vndoo  them  :  That  we  had  caste  our  Pastor  and  Ministers 
owte  headlonge  from  ther  ministeries  and  offices.  In  all 
whiche  thinges,  they  went  aboute  nothinge  ells  but  to  stirre 
vp  newe  braules  and  contentions.  And  that  they  maie  alien- 
ate the  hartes  off  the  welthie  sorte  from  vs,  and  so  bringe  the 
poore  of  oure  churche,  first  to  famine  and  then  vs  into  deadly 
hatred  off  them,  as  thoughe  they  were  by  vs  throwen  in  to 
theis  miseries,  But  for  as  muche  as  all  theis  thinges  are  vaine 
and  vntrue,  and  fained  by  the  secret  sleightes  off  those  priuie 
whisperers,  who  dare  speake  nothinge  openly  :  we  haue 
thought  them  rather  to  be  contemned  the  to  be  answered  : 
hopinge  that  at  laste  when  they  are  weary  off  lyinge,  they  will 
be  quiet.  But  iff  they  go  forwarde  still  to  belie  vs  so  im- 
pudently and  outragiously,  surely  we  will  not  neglecte  oure 
fame  and  honest  estimation :  but  we  wil  diligently  wipe  awaie 
all  their  slanders  with  one  spunge,  and  there  withall  will  open 
to  the  worlde,  their  wicked  endeauors  against  oure  churche. 
In  the  meane  time  nothinge  distrustinge  the  lordes  mercie 
(how  soeuer  the  deceites  off  men  would  let  it)  hopinge,  that 
neither  liuinge  nor  foode  shall  euer  want  to  oure  poore  con- 
gregation, who  also  feedeth  the  rauens,  and  that  he  will  all- 
waies  be  present  by  his  spirit  to  vs  and  to  oure  whole  churche 
continually  whiche  thinge  that  it  maie  please  him  to 
bringe  to  passe,  we  beseche  the  good  reader 
(who  so  euer  thow  art)  praie  vnto  god 
togither  with  vs,  and  fare- 
well. 


ex. 

Here  folowithe  the  exhortation  off  the  Magistrate  for 

the  amendinge  and  establishinge  off  the 

Discipline. 

The  Englishe  Thus. 

We  think  it  Good  and  profitable  for  the  establishinge  off 
peace  and  tranquililie  off  your  churche,  that  yow  altogether 
consulte  and  determine,  as  concerninge  the  amendinge  off 
discipline,  nowe,  whiles  ye  all  be  yet  priuate  men  and  with- 
ovvte  anie  Ecclesiasticall  ministerie.  For  whiles  none  off 
yow  dothe  yet  knowe,  wither  he  shall  be  a  priuate  person  or 
ells  shall  haue  anie  authoritie  Ecclesiasticall,  euerie  man 
will  applie  his  minde,  and  studie  to  that  whiche  shall  seme 
moste  reasonable  and  profitable  aswell  for  the  cogregation 
as  for  the  Mynisters.  But  after  that  the  Mynisters  be  once 
elected,  it  is  to  be  feared  leaste  they  will  drawe  some- 
what more  then  reason  to  themselues,  and  in  likewise  the 
congregation  to  it  selff.  And  so,  your  cortsulation  maie 
chaunce  to  be  somewhat  troublous  whiche  we  woulde  not 
shuld  happen.  Wherfore  that  all  thinges  maie  procede  as 
well  as  maie  be  to  the  establishing  off  sure  peace  we  exhorte 
yow  that  with  all  spede  ye  take  in  hand  this  consultation 
abowte  the  amendinge  off  your  Discipline  with  mindes  and 
meanes  moste  aplyable  to  tranquillitie,  which  Allmightie  God 
graunt,  ye  maie  happely  bringe  to  passe.  The  first  off 
marche,  1557. 

Iolm  Glauburg. 


CXI. 

Nowe,  folowith  the  discipline  both  the  olde,  and  that 

which  was  by  the  Magistrates  appointement, 

corrected. 

The  order  off  the  olde  discipline  in  the 
Citie  off  Franckford. 

There  be  2.  partes  off  the  order  off  Discipline  in  the  churche.  The  vide 
The  one  perteininge  to  the  whole  churche.  The  other  per-  #&*>*«* 
teininge  to  the  ministers  and  Elders  alone. 

Off  the  flrste  parte. 

In  the  Discipline  perteininge  to  the  whole  church,  is  flrste 
to  be  apointed  the  order  off  receiuinge  men  into  the  congrega- 
tion whiche  is  this. 

The  manner  off  receiuinge  off  all  sortes  off 
personnes  into  the  saide  congre- 
gation. 

Fyrste,  euerie  one  as  well  man  as  woman  which  desireth  to 
be  receiued  shall  make  a  declaration  or  Confession  off  their 
faithe,  before  the  pastor  and  Seniors  shewinge  himselff  fully  to 
consent  and  agree  with  doctrine  of  the  churche  and  submittinge 
themselues  to  the  discipline  off  the  same. 

Iff  anie  person,  so  desirous  to  be  receiued  into  the  congre- 
gation, be  notoriously  defamed  or  noted  off  any  corrupt  or 
euill  opinion  in  doctrine  or  slaunderous  behauior  in  liffe,  the 
same  maie  not  by  the  pastor  and  Elders  be  admitted  till  he 
haue  either  purged  himselff  theroff,  or  ells  haue  declared  him- 
selff to  the  pastor  and  Elders  penitent  for  the  same. 

The  good  behauiour  and  godly  conuersation  required 

off  such  as  are  receiued. 

f  4 


CXII. 

Secondarely  all  the  members  off  the  churche  so  admitted 
and  receiued  shall  diligently  obserue  and  keepe  all  suche 
Godlie  Discipline  and  orders  appointed  with  in  the  churche 
whiche  tend  to  the  increasse  off  knowledge  and  godlynesse  off 
liffe,  as  the  appointed  times  off  praier,  preachinge,  and  hear- 
inge  goddes  worde,  the  administration  off  the  Sacramentes, 
with  submission  to  all  godly  discipline  off  the  churche. 
Tlrisar-  Thirdly,  such  also  as  beinge  in  England  after  knowledg 
tidelfinde  recejue(l   haue  communicated  with  the  popishe  masse  contrary 

rased  m  '  x    ■*■ .  ,  . 

the  co-pie,  to  their  cosciences  by  reason  of  feare,  weaknes,  or  other  wise, 
mlfbfit  may  not  be  receyued  till  they  haue  confessed  their  fall  before 
I  know      the  pastor  and  seniors,  and  haue  shewed  themselues  penitent 

not.  x 

for  the  same. 

How  the  youthe  shalbe  Catechised. 

Also  for  the  increase  off  Godly  knowledg  and  vertue,  all 
the  youthe  shall  resorte  to  the  churche  euerye  satterdaie  at  2. 
off  the  clock  at  aftemoone,  and  when  we  haue  a  seuerall 
churche  at  one  off  the  clock  on  the  sundaie  at  afternoone,  there, 
to  be  instructed  in  the  Catechisme,  and  not  to  be  admitted  to 
the  communion  till  they  be  able  to  make  profession  off  their 
faith  before  the  whole  congregation.  And  also  to  haue  an 
honest  testimony  off  tovvardnes  in  godly  conuersation,  and 
that  euery  member  off  the  churche  do  not  refuse  to  reade  a 
declaration  off  their  faithe  before  the  pastor  and  Elders  when 
so  euer  they  shall  be  therto  required. 

Thorder  off  correction,  for  priuate  arid 
priuie  offences. 

Fourthly,  for  as  muche  as  no  charge  is  so  perfect  but 
offences  maye  arise,  for  godly  charitable  redressinge  and 
reforminge  off  suche,  this  order  is  to  be  obserued. 

Firste,  yff  anie  off  the  congregation  be  offensiue  in  manners 
or  doctrine  to  anie  off  the  brethern,  so  that  offence  be  priuate 


CXIII. 

and  not  publickly  knowen,  ther  can  be  no  better  order  deuised 
then  that  which  Christe  himselff  hathe  apointed,  which  is,  firste 
brotherly  to  admonishe  him  alone,  yff  that  do  not  preuaile  : 
call,  one  or  2.  Witnesses,  yff  that  also  do  not  profit,  then  to 
declare  it  to  the  pastor  and  elders,  to  wh5  the  churche  hath 
geuen  authoritie  to  take  order  in  such  cases  according  to  the 
qualitie  and  greuousnes  off  the  offence  and  crime. 

Off  the  order  off  correction  for  publick 
and  open  crimes. 

But  yff  anie  person  shalbe  a  notorious  knowen  offender 
so  as  he  is  offensiue  to  the  whole  churche,  then  shall  the  pastor 
and  elders  immediatlie  call  the  offender  before  them  andtrauell 
with  him  to  reduce  him  to  true  repetance  and  satisfyinge  off 
the  congregation  whiche,  if  he  obstinately  refuse  to  doo : 
then  the  pastor  shall  signifie  his  offence  and  contempt  to  the 
whole  congregation :  desiring  them  to  praie  for  him,  and  fur- 
ther to  assigne  him  a  daie  to  be  denownced  excommunicate  be- 
fore the  churche,  except  in  the  meane  time  the  offender  submit 
himself  before  the  pastor  and  seniors  to  the  order  of  discipline. 

Finally,  in  case  any  person  of  this  congregation  beknowe 
to  be  an  hinderer  or  a  defacer  of  anie  of  the  godly  vsages  nowe 
excercised  in  the  same  congregation,  either  priuely  or  apertly 
by  worde,  letter,  or  dede :  the  same  shall  acknowledg  his 
offence  with  satisfaction  to  the  churche,  according  to  the  true 
order  off  Discipline. 

The  2.  parte  off  discipline  concerninge  the  Ministers 
and  Elders,  and  their  elections. 

Firste  for  the  election  of  ministers  and  Elders,  the  qualities 
of  the  same  are  to  be  examined  and  considered  according  to 
the  rule  off  S.  Paule.  1.  Tim.  3,  Wheroff  this  is  the  summe 
That  no  man  be  elected  whose  doctrine  or  liffe  can  iustlie  be 
reproued  and  condemned.  As  concerning  the  order  and  forme 
off  Electing,  the  same  is  to  be  obserued  whiche  hathe  already 
bin  practised  and  is  here  vnto  anexed. 

f  5 


CXIIII. 

Off  ther  offices  and  functions. 

The  pastor,  according  to  die  commaundement  off  the 
holie  ghoste  in  the  scriptures,  ought  withall  pastorall  care 
diligently  to  attende  to  his  flock,  in  preaching  goddes  worde, 
in  ministring  the  Sacramentes,  in  example  off  Good  lyffe, 
in  exhortinge,  admonishinge,  rebukinge,  and  as  the  chieff 
mouthe  off  the  churche,  to  open  and  declare  all  orders  taken 
by  him  and  the  elders  whiche  are  to  be  opened  and  published : 
to  whom  no  man  maie  in  the  face  off  the  congregation  replye. 
But  yff  anie  think  himselff  to  haue  cause  to  speak  let  him 
come  before  the  elders  in  the  place  appointed  for  their  meet- 
inge  and  there  to  open  his  minde  and  to  be  hard  with  all 
charitie  indifferently. 

The  office  off  preachers  and  suche  as  are 
lerned  in  the  congregation. 

The  office  off  preachers  and  such  as  are  lerned  in  the 
churche  is  to  assiste  the  pastor  in  preachinge  the  worde,  mi- 
nistringe  the  Sacraments  and  in  all  consultations  and  meetinges 
off  him  and  the  Elders  especially  in  causes  off  Doctrine,  and 
also  at  other  tymes  when  they  shall  be  required. 

The  office  off  Elders. 

The  office  off  Elders  is  to  be  (as  it  were)  censors,  ouerseers 
off  manners  and  disorders.  And  to  be  with  the  pastor  in  all 
consultations,  for  the  publick  order  off  the  churche,  and  that 
all  corrections  and  exercises  off  discipline  be  done  with  their 
common  consaile. 

Deacons. 

Consideringe  also  the  present  state  off  the  churche,  it  is 
thought  requisite  that  the  Deacons  besides  the  speciall  office 
appointed  in  the  Acts  off  the  Apostells  in  caringe  and  prouidinge 


cxv. 

for  the  poore,  do  also  visit  the  sick  and  be  assistant  in  Cate- 
chisinge  the  youthe  yff  they  shall  be  ther  vnto  required. 

The  same  order  and  forme  is  to  be  vsed  for  reformation  off 
offences  and  crimes  in  ministers  and  Elders  vvhiche  is  described 
for  other  offenders,  and  to  be  donne,  towardes  them  rather 
with  more  seueritie. 


Now  folowith  the  Discipline  reformed  and  confirmed 

by  the  authoritie  off  the  churche  and 

Magistrate. 

It  is  moste  cumlie  and  godly,  that  Christian  people  resorte         i, 

together   in   place   and   time    therunto   by   common    consent  %**.**** 
of  j  discipline. 

appointed  (yff  the  persecution  off  the  vngodly  will  suffer  the 

same  and  they  themselues  haue  no  vrgent  cause  to  the  con- 
trary) there  to  heare  the  pure  doctrine  off  Gods  worde  taught, 
and  themselues  openly  with  their  presence  and  voice  to  de- 
clare the  consent  off  their  hartes  to  the  same,  and  to  confesse 
with  their  mouthe  agreablely  their  belieff  and  faith  vpon  god 
and  his  holy  worde  according  to  the  scriptures. 

The  congregation  thus  assembled  is  a  particuler  visible  2. 
churche  such  as  maye  be  in  diuers  places  off  the  worlde  verie 
manie.  And  all  theis  particuler  churches  ioined  together  not 
in  place  (for  that  is  not  possible)  but  by  the  coniunction  off 
true  doctrine  and  faithe  in  the  same,  do  make  one  whole 
churche  in  this  worlde.  And  the  electe  off  God  that  be  in 
this  whole  churche  and  euery  parte  theroff  with  all  the  elect 
that  hath  bin  from  the  beginninge  off  the  worlde  and  shall  be 
to  the  ende  theroff  doo  altogether  make  that  holy  catholike 
and  Apostolike  churche,  the  spouse  off  oure  sauiour  Christe 
whiche  he  hathe  purified  to  him  selff  in  his  blood  wheroff 
mention  is  made  in  the  creede.  I  beleue  one  holye  Catholike 
and  Apostolike  churche.  But  at  this  present  oure  considera- 
tion muste  be  off  the  visible  and  particuler  churche. 

1    6 


CXVI. 

The  signes  and  notes  off  a  visible  churche  are  thies.  Firste, 
true  and  godly  doctrine.  Secondly,  the  right  ministration 
and  vse  off  the  Sacramentes  and  common  praier.  Thirdly, 
honest  and  godly  liffe,  yff  not  in  the  whole  multitude,  yet  in 
manie  off  them  :  fourthly,  discipline,  that  is,  the  correction 
off  vices,  but  the  2.  firste  notes  are  suche  as  withowt  the 
whiche.no  forme  of  anie  godly  visible  churche  can  possibly  be. 
Wherfore,  they  be  the  principall  and  chieff  notes.  And  ther- 
fore  we  define  a  particuler  churche  visible,  to  be  the  congre- 
gation off  Christen  men  whither  they  be  fewe  or  many  assem- 
blage together  in  place  and  time  conuenient  to  heare  Christes 
true  Doctrine  taught,  to  vse  his  holy  Sacramentes  rightly  and 
to  make  their  common  praier  together,  in  the  whiche  their 
appearethe  a  studie  off  honest  and  godlie  liffe  and  which 
hathe  in  it  a  godly  Discipline,  that  is  to  saie,  ordinaunces  and 
decrees  Ecclesiasticall  for  the  presentation  off  comely  order 
and  for  the  correction  of  vices. 

Off  the  doctrine  off  the  churche  which 
is  the  first  note. 

The  Doctrine  whiche  we  holde  and  professe  in  oure  church 
is  the  same  that  is  taught  in  the  canonicall  bookes  of  the 
holie  bible,  conteininge  the  olde  testamente  and  the  newe  in 
the  whiche  is  conteined  the  true  and  liuelie  worde  off  god 
and  the  doctrine  off  helthe  bothe  as  concerninge  faithe  and 
godly  lyffe,  at  full,  sufficient  for  the  saluation  off  all  the 
faithfull  that  vnfainedly  beleue  therin.  The  sumrae  off  the 
whiche  as  concerninge  faithe  is  briefly  and  truly  compre- 
hended in  the  3.  creeds,  the  common  creede  commonly  called 
the  creed  off  the  Apostells,  the  Nicene  creed  and  the  crede  off 
Athanasius  :  And  as  concerninge  godly  liffe,  in  the  ten  com- 
maundementes,  written  in  the  xx.  chapter  off  Exodus. 

Off  the  Sacramentes^  and  common  praier 
the  second  note. 


CXVII. 

We  obserue  ad  kepe  the  forme  and  order  off  the  ministra- 
tion of  the  sacramentes  and  common  praier,  as  it  is  set  foorth 
by  the  authoritie  off  the  blessed  kinge  Edwarde  off  famous 
memorie,  in  the  laste  booke  off  the  English  seruice  :  Wheroff 
notwithstanding  in  the  respecte  off  times  and  places  and  other 
circumstances  certeine  rites  and  ceremonies  appoynted  in  the 
saied  booke,  as  thinges  in  different,  maie  be  left  owte,  as  we 
at  this  present  doo. 

The  times  and  houres  for  the  teachinge  and  hearing  off 
goddes  worde  and  the  ministration  of  the  Sacramentes,  and 
saying  and  hearing  of  the  comon  praier,  such  as  be  nowe  vsed, 
or  shall  heare  after  by  common  cosent  be  thought  moste  meete 
to  be  vsed,  are  to  be  kept  and  obserued  off  all  men  not  hairing 
laufull  cause  to  the  contrary. 

Off  the  Ministers  off  the  worde,  Sacraments 
and  common  praier. 

It  is  thought  expedient  for  the  churche  at  this  present,  to 
haue  2.  Ministers  or  teachers  off  the  worde  elected,  off  doc- 
trine and  godly  liffe,  such  as  the  rule  off  the  scripture  dothe 
require  as  muche  as  maie  be,  And  that  the  saide  2.  Ministers 
and  teachers  off  the  worde  shall  in  all  things  and  poynts  be 
off  like  authorite  and  neither  of  them  superior  or  inferior  to 
other. 

Item  that  the  saied,  2.  Ministers  shall  by  themselues,  or 
fit  persons  by  them  and  the  Seniors  in  the  name  off  the  whole 
congregation  to  be  appointed,  when  necessarie  cause  shall  so 
require,  preach  the  ordinarie  Sermons  on  wensdaies,  thurs- 
daies  and  sondaies  before  noone,  and  after  noone  instruct  and 
Heare  the  examination  off  the  youthe  in  the  Catechisme, 
on  sondaye  in  the  after  noone  at  the  howre  accustomed, 
and  shall  by  them  selues  or  other  appoynted  persons  as 
ys  afore  sayed  Mynister  the  Sacramentes  dewly,  saye  the 
common  prayers  distinctly  viset  and  comfort  the  sick  spe- 
cially at  their  last  tyme  and  howre  off  deathe,  bury  the  dead 
comely,  and  obserue  all  other  comely  rites  and  vsages  in  the 


10. 


CXVIII. 

churche  directing  all  their  behauiour  actes  and  life  accord- 
ing to  the  rule  off  their  vocation,  set  foorth  in  the  holie  scrip- 
tures. 

Item  that  sixe,  either  fewer  or  more,  (as  the  habilitie  off  the 
churche  will  beare)  such  as  be  Godly  and  haue  nede  off  die 
helpe  off  the  churche,  be  appointed  by  the  Ministers  and 
Seniors  in  the  name  off  the  whole  congregation  Wheroff  4. 
to  be  well  lerned,  who  shall  reade  and  expownde  the  chapters, 
and  shall  helpe  the  two  ministers  of  the  worde,  when  nede 
shall  require  in  the  doctrine  off  the  worde,  Catechisinge  off 
youthe,  Ministringe  off  the  Sacramentes,  sainge  off  common 
praier  and  the  other  two  or  moo,  shall  aide  also  the  saied 
ministers  Seniors  and  Deacons  in  visitinge  of  the  sick  and 
seinge  to  strangers  and  in  callinge  off  the  congregation  when 
nede  shall  be,  and  in  all  other  necessarie  and  comelie  thinges 
and  rites  to  be  done  in  the  churche.  Notwithstandinge,  anie 
other  godly  and  lerned  men  whiche  liue  off  them  selues,  and 
be  not  burthenus  to  the  churche  maye  helpe  the  Ministers  off 
the  worde  in  the  aboue  named  Ecclesiastical  functions,  iff 
they  themselues  so  will,  and  be  ther  vnto  called  by  the  saied 
ministers  and  Seniors. 

Item,  for  the  further  instruction  off  youthe  and  seruants  it 
is  thought  good,"  that  besides  the  examination  off  children  in 
the  Catechisme  ordinarely  vsed,  the  said  children  and  seruants 
with  the  whole  congregation,  shulde  be  all  presente  at  oure 
ordinarie  sermon,  to  be  made  purposely  for  them  on  sondaies 
at  aftemoone,  so  lernedly  that  it  be  yet  for  their  capacitie 
most  plaine  and  with  all  possible  perspecuitie,  and  that  one 
tenor  off  Christian  doctrine  from  the  beginninge  to  the  ende 
be  obserued  and  kepte  in  the  saide  sermon,  off  the  whiche 
no  better  forme  in  oure  Judgement  can  be  then  Caluins  Cate- 
chisme, receiued  in  so  manie  churches,  and  translated  into  so 
manie  languages,  yt  is  thought  good  therfore  that  the  preacher 
off  the  saied  Catechisinge  sermon  followe  the  Good  order 
off  that  Catechisme  in  his  sermons  and  confirme  the  godly 
doctrine  off  the  same  by  the  scriptures,  and  after  the  same 


CXIX. 

• 

sermon  the  common  praier,   and  seruice  to  be  exercised  and 
fynished  as  at  other  times. 

Item,  that  the  one  preacher  beinge  sick  the  other  shal  doo         u 
or  see  donne  by  other  fit  persons,  as  is  before  saied  all  the 
devvtie  and  dewties  to  the  other  so  sick  belonginge. 

Item,  that  a  lecture  off  diuinitie  and  disputations  for  the  i_>. 
exercise  off  students,  yff  it  maie  be,  be  mainteined,  or  ells 
that  prophesie  be  vsed  euery  fortnight  in  the  Englishe  tong, 
for  the  exercise  off  the  saied  studentes  and  edifinge  of  the 
congregation,  or  bothe  disputations  and  Prophesie  also,  iff  it 
so  shall  seeme  good  vnto  the  ministers  and  Seniors. 

Item,  that  such  as  shall  therunto  seeme  moste  meete  off  the         13. 
congregation   shall   be    appointed  to  translate  into   Englishe 
some  such  bookes,  as  shall  be  profitable  either  for  the  in- 
struction or  for  the  comforte  of  oure  countrie  in  this  oure  exile 
and  affliction  off  oure  countrie. 

Item,  that  the  common  bookes  or  librarie  off  the  churche,         14. 
be  at  the  appoyntement  off  the  minister  and  the  Seniors   in 
such  place  as  all  the  studentes  maie  moste  conueniently  come 
vnto. 

The  thirde  note,  that  is  Christian  liffe,  and 

Good  workes  the  frutes  off  Godly 

doctrine. 

Item,  we  teache  that  such  goode  workes  are  to  be  done  as         ].-, 
are  commaunded  by  Goddes    worde  in  the   scriptures,  such 
euell  deedes  to  be  auoided  as  are  forbiden  by  the  same. 

And  where  as  concerninge  the  frutes  off  godly  doctrine  16. 
none  is  more  commaunded  in  the  scriptures  then  the  relieu- 
inge  off  the  poore  whiche  either  is  donne  priuately  by  euery 
persone  or  ells  by  the  common  treasury  off  the  churche,  for 
the  good  and  right  vse  and  order  off  the  same  :  it  apearethe 
aswell  by  Goddes  worde  as  by  the  examples  off  churches 
rightly  reformed,  that  bothe  the  keepinge  and  also  the  distri- 
bution off  the  treasure  of  the  churche  apperteineth  to  the  Dea- 
cons :  who  be  necessarie  Ministers  in  the  churche  off  Christe  that 


cxx. 

withowte  them  it  cannot  well  be.  For  Christe  saith  yow  shall 
haue  alwaies  poore  men  amonge  yow.  Wherfore  they  ought  to 
be  honored  of  all  men,  and  they  them  selues  ought  to  haue 
this  opinion,  that  they  highlie  please  god  in  that  ministery. 

17.  Wherfore  we  think  it  expedient  for  the  churche  that  4.  men 
of  speciall  grauitie,  authoritie,  and  credit,  in  the  churche, 
such  as  off  them  selues  be  able  to  Hue  and  will  do  this  godlie 
office  rather  for  Christes  sake  and  the  loue  they  beare  to  him 
and  his  poore  flock,  then  for  anie  there  owne  necessitie  or 
worldly  rewarde,  be  chosen  to  be  Deacons,  whiche  4.  Dea- 
cons shall  haue  the  custodie  off  the  treasure  and  distribution 
off  the  same,  and  other  almes  off  the  churche  remaininge  in 
their  handes  and  kepinge,  in  suche  sorte  as  it  shall  seem  good 
to  the  Ministers,  seniors  and  Deacons  for  the  moste  saftie  off 
the  said  treasure. 

18.  Item,  that  although  the  Deacons  haue  in  their  custodie  the 
treasure  of  the  churche,  yet  the  ministers  and  seniors  shall 
haue  knowledge  off  the  whole  summe  of  the  sayd  treasure. 

Prouided  allwaies  that  neither  the  saied  4.  Deacons  minis- 
ters, Seniors,  or  anie  off  them  shall  haue  anie  knowledge  or 
make  anie  inquisition  off  the  geuer  or  geuers  of  anie  Almes  to 
the  poore  off  the  saied  churche,  otherwise  then  messinger  or 
bringer  off  the  saied  Allmes  shall  of  himself  declare,  to  whom 
and  as  he  hathe  commission  from  the  geuers  so  to  doo,  but  that 
the  gifte  be  receauid  and  knowen  and  the  geuer  and  geuers 
names  vnknowen  and  kept  close  with  all  possible  secresie. 

Item  that  the  saied  deacons  once  in  a  monethe,  that  is 
the  last  daie  of  euery  monethe  shall  make  there  accoumpts 
before  the  ministers  and  seniors,  howe  the  saied  treasures 
be  bestowed,  and  that  all  the  saied  companie,  so  appointed 
to  make  the  accoumpt  shall  note  the  remains  of  the  saied 
treasure  at  the  daie  and  yere  in  the  whiche  euery  accoumpt 
shall  be  taken. 
2i  Item,  we  thinke  good  and  do  decree,  that  there  beinge  a 

schole  in  the  saied  churche  (seing  the  saied  scoole  is  a  mem- 
ber of  the  saied  churche,  as  of  the  whole  bodie)  the  treasure 


l.M 


2d 


CXXI. 


for  thepr]  maintenance  and  for  the  maintenance  off  the  other 
poore  also  be  all  one  and  ioyned  together :  that  neither  in  the 
procuring  off  the  saied  treasure,  or  in  the  distribution  theroff, 
anie  occasion  off  diuision,  emulation,  or  contention  do  happen 
amonge  them  who  ought  to  Hue  togither  like  bretheren,  and 
members  of  one  bodie  in  all  concorde,  coniunction  and  vnitie  : 
otherwise,  the  schole  whiche  is  of  it  selff  so  worthie  a  mem- 
ber off  the  bodie,  maye  by  abuse,  cause,  not  onely  the  hin- 
derance,  but  also  the  destruction  off  the  whole  body. 

Item,  that  in  the  distribution  off  the  saied  treasure  a  spe-  22. 
ciall  regarde  be  had  off  the  saied  studentes  that  be  poore. 
First,  for  that  they  be  poore,  and  againe,  for  that  they  be 
destinate  to  be  workmen  in  the  lordes  vinearde,  and  so  worthie 
members  in  the  bodie.  And  that  as  they  be  studious  of  the 
scriptures  specially,  and  yet  with  all  of  other  liberal  artes 
also,  as  ministers  and  handemaides  to  the  settinge  foorth  off 
goddes  worde,  so  they  maie  be  liberally  handled  and  receiue 
goddes  blessinge,  whiche  is  the  liberalitie  off  the  godlie  with- 
owt  the  shame  and  abashment  as  the  gift  off  god,  who  geueth 
to  all  men  and  vpraideth  no  man. 

Item,  it  rs  decreed  and  also  the  whole  congregation  de-  23. 
sirethe  the  Deacons  monthlie  to  visit,  and  speake  priuately 
with  the  saied  studentes,  that  be  poore,  and  other  poore  also  : 
and  to  examin  their  states  frindly  and  charitablie  and  according 
to  euery  mannes  necessitie,  as  the  treasure  of  the  churche  will 
beare,  to  offre  to  euerie  one  off  them  with  obtestation  to  them, 
that  yff  they  haue  no  nede  theroff  they  receiue  it  not.  For 
that  were  nothing  ells  but  to  robbe  the  nedie.  for  so  shal  bothe 
the  shamefastnes  of  the  honest,  and  liberall  natures  be  saued 
and  the  treasure  off  the  churche  willingly  spared.  For  he 
that  vpon  suche  obtestation  will  not  refraine  to  receiue  that  is 
offred,  when  he  hathe  no  nede  :  will  not  be  ashamed  to  begg 
and  craue  when  he  hath  no  nede,  and  that  not  onely  lyinge, 
but  also  with  periurie  yf  nede  be. 

Item,  yf  anie  by  euident  profes,  such  as   cannot  be  gaine        24 
saied  be  foude  to  haue  taken  or  vsed  the  treasure  of  the  churche, 


CXXII. 

heauinge  no  nede  therof  that  the,  not  onely  he  be  exepted  fro 
anie  more  partakige  off  the  saied  treasure  til  it  appere  that  he. 
haue  euident  neede  but  also  that  he  doo  make  therfore  pub- 
lique  satisfaction,  before  he  be  admitted  to  the  common. 

25.  Item,  that  the  Seniors  and  Deacons  se  that  the  poore  off 
the[ir]  congregation  be  not  ydle  but  diligent  in  well  doeinge. 

26.  Item,  that  iff  ther  be  anie  off  the  poore,  sick,  that  then 
foorthwith  one  of  the  Deacons  resorte  to  them  and  presently 
succor  their  necessitie,  and  the  needy  straungers  off  our  nation 
be  holpen  towardes  their  traueill  and  iourney,  yfF  the  treasure 
off  the  churche  will  beare  it. 

27.  Item,  that  in  case  the  treasure  off  the  churche  do  faile  or 
wax  thinne,  that  then  such  as  be  off  the  welthey  sorte  off  the 
congregation,  shall  quarterly  contribute  accordinge  to  their 
habilitie  and  godly  deuotion  for  the  maintenance  off  the  mi- 
nisterie,  poore,  and  studentes  off  the  congregation.  And  the 
same  at  euerie  quarter  daie  to  be  deliuered  into  the  handes  off 
the  Deacons. 

28.  Item,  we  think  Good  that  declaration  be  made  by  the 
preachers  off  Goddes  worde  diuers  tymes  as  iust  occasion 
will  serue,  how  comely  and  profitable  for  Christes  churche, 
that  all  mennes  liberalitie  towardes  the  poore,  do  come  to 
the  handes  off  the  saied  4.  Deacons,  by  them  publickly  in 
the  name  off  the  whole  churche  to  be  ministred  to  the  poore: 
for  by  this  rule,  let  not  thy  left  hande  knowe  what  they  right 
hande  dothe  maye  beste  be  obserued  :  And  the  blowinge  off 
the  trumpet  before  the  almes  geuer,  and  all  worldly  reward 
off  vaine  commendation  maie  best  be  auoided :  and  so  our 
heauenly  father,  who  seethe  in  secret,  will  rewarde  euerie 
man  more  abundantly  in  the  daie  off  the  reuelation  off  the 
thoughts  off  all  men. 

29.  Item  we  think  good  that  certeine  letters  in  the  same  sence 
be  written  with  an  exhortation  and  hartie  praier  to  all  such 
as  will  relieue  the  poore  off  oure  congregation  with  their  godly 
liberalitie,  that  they  will  deliuer  or  send  their  charitable  reliffe 
to  the  saied  4.  Deacons,  commonly  to  be  bestowed  off  them 


CXXIII. 

vppon  all  the  poore,  whither  they  be  studentes  or  other  ac- 
cording to  euerie  mans  necessitie  :  vvhiche  the  saied  Deacons 
and  the  churche  here  present  can  best  knowe  and  Iudge, 
rather  then  to  committ  the  allmes  to  anie  one  persons  hande, 
to  anie  priuate  vse,  for  the  auoyding  off  sundry  suspitions, 
and  many  other  inconueniences,  that  maie  be  then  presently 
and  here  after  arise  and  ensewe  off  the  same  :  And  the  saied 
letters  subscribed  with  as  many  handes  off  the  congregation 
as  shall  seme  good,  with  a  generall  superscription  to  all  such 
as  will  charitably  relieue  the  poore  off  oure  congregation 
with  owt  anye  naminge  off  any  persons,  to  be  sent  where 
the  Ministers  Seniors  and  Deacons,  or  the  more  off  them 
shall  think  good  by  a  most  faithfull  and  discreet  messinger, 
to  all  places  where  such  good  men,  by  whose  liberalitie  the 
churche  is  releiued,  doe  or  maie  resorte,  that  the  sayed 
letters  maie  by  the  sayed  messinger  be  shewed  as  a  testimonie 
off  credit  to  the  said  godly  men  in  places  and  at  times  moste 
conuenient. 

This  article  folowing  29.  I  also  finde 
in  the  Copie. 

Item,  as  concerning  the  relieffe  the  had  at  strangers  handes,        30. 
who  be  not  off  oure  churche  :  such  order  is  to  be  taken  as  shall 
seme  most  expediet  to  the  ministers  of  the  worde  and  Sacra- 
ments.    It  semeth  that  this  article  was  put  in,  in  place  off  the 
former  whiche  they  could  not  agree  vppon. 

Item,  we  thinke  it  expedient  that  the  saied  4.  Deacons  be  si. 
charged  neither  with  the  helping  off  the  Ministers  in  the 
preaching  off  the  worde  neither  in  the  Catechising  off  the 
youthe,  neither  in  ministringe  off  Sacramentes,  or  saing  off 
common  praier :  or  specially  the  visiting  off  the  sick,  other 
then  the  poore  for  the  releiuing  of  their  necessitie,  as  with 
thinges  perteininge  to  the  office  off  Deaconshipp  nor  with  any 
other  offices  other  the  is  expressedly  declared  in  gods  worde 
apperteine  to  the  Deacons  :  according  to  the  rule  off  the  whiche, 


CXXIIII. 

they  shall  by  all  meanes  possible  direct  their  doinges :  The 
summe  wherofF  is,  diligently  to  receiue  and  kepe  all,  and  all 
manner  off  publik  and  priuate  almes,  and  the  same  faithfully 
to  bestowe  vpon  the  poore  off  Christes  churche  accordinge  as 
euery  mannes  necessitie  shall  requier :  and  by  all  meanes  pos- 
sible, as  well  by  worde  as  by  writing,  to  procure  the  mainte- 
naunce  off  the  saied  treasure  off  the  churche,  so  to  their  credit 
committed.  Notwithstandinge,  it  is  not  ment  hereby,  but  that 
anie  off  the  saied  Deacons,  being  lerned,  when  good  occasion 
shall  therto  serue,  may  preach  or  instruct  the  youthe  in  the 
Catechisme,  or  doe  anie  other  godly  function  wherunto  they 
shall  be  called. 

32.  Item,  that  where  there  is  no  godlier  acte  then  to  succor 
such  as  be  bothe  sik  and  poore  for  that  their  burthen  is  moste 
heauy,  we  think  good,  yff  the  habilitie  off  the  churche  will 
extend  therunto  :  that  there  be  4.  graue  and  honest  wemen 
either  widowes  or  wiues  (such  as  haue  nede  of  the  helpe  of 
the  churche)  appointed  and  chosen  with  the  consente  off  their 
husbandes,  to  keepe  the  poore,  when  they  be  sike,  and  to 
watche  with  them  by  course  one  after  an  other :  and  that  they 
haue  therfore  out  off  the  treasure  off  the  churche  a  certeine 
stipende  quarterly  paide  vnto  them. 

Off  the  Discipline  off  the  churche  which  is 
the  4.  and  laste  note. 

33.  Firste,  in  all  matters  touchinge  conscience,  gods  worde 
is  the  perfect  rule  as  well  for  those  thinges  whiche  Christen 
men  ought  to  doe,  as  for  such  thinges  as  they  are  bownd  to 
abstaine  from. 

34.  Item,  in  all  controuersies  ciuill,  the  ciuill  or  municipall 
law  off  the  countrie  or  citie  where  the  churche  is,  is  a  sufficient 
rule  be  obaied. 

35.  Item,  all  matters  touchinge  the  congregation,  or  the  mem- 
bers off  the  same  directly  apperteining  to  neither  off  the 
two  former  partes,   Ecclesiasticall  ordinance  and  discipline  of 


?,(,. 


cxxv. 

the  saied  churche,  ought  by  all  members  off  the  same  to  be 
obaied. 

Item,  although  this  vvorde  Discipline  generally  doth  con- 
teine  all  Ecclesiasticall  orders  and  ordinaunces,  yet  in  this 
place  it  is  properly  taken  for  the  rule  off  owtward  honest 
orders  and  manners  and  off  the  punishiment  and  correction  off 
vices. 

Item,  for  the  execution  off  the  whiche  discipline  to  the  37. 
mainteining  of  all  comely  order  and  vertue  in  the  churche,  and 
correction  off  disorder  and  vice,  it  is  agreed,  that  6.  men  off 
speciall  grauitie,  authoritie,  and  wisdom,  suche  as  the  rule  off 
the  holy  scriptures  dothe  set  foorthe  as  muche  as  maie  be  shal 
be  chosen  to  be  seniors,  whiche  6.  Seniors  with  the  two  Mi- 
nisters off  the  worde  shall  haue  the  execution  off  the  Disci- 
pline and  gouernement  off  the  churche,  and  shall  be  reuerenced, 
and  in  all  thinges  godly  and  reasonable  obeied  and  reuerenced 
of  all  persons  in  the  congregation  vnder  paine  off  moste  sharpe 
discipline. 

Prouided  alwaies  that  the  saied  Ministers  and  seniors  seue-        28. 
rally  and  ioyntly,  shall  haue  no  authoritie  to  make  anye  manner 
off  decrees,  or  ordinances  to  bynd  the  congregation  or  anie 
meber  therof :  but  shall  execute  such  ordinaces  and  decrees 
as  shal  be  made  by  the  congregatio  and  to  the  deliuered. 

Off  the  election  off  all  Ministers. 

Item  it  is  agreed  that  all  seniors,  Deacons  and  all  other  39 
ministers  (what  so  euer  they  be)  the  2.  teachers  and  ministers 
off  the  worde  onely  excepted,  shall  ones  a  yere  that  is  the  first 
daie  off  marche  take  an  ende  off  their  ministerie,  what  so  euer 
it  be  :  And  they  from  that  daie,  till  a  newe  election  be  made, 
which  shalbe  within  one  forthnight  after  the  saied  fyrste  day 
off  marche  (vnles  some  great  causes  incident  do  let  the  same) 
shall  be  all  priuate  persons,  as  other  mebers  off  the  congre- 
gation and  so  continewe  still,  till  they  be  newe  elected,  to 
the  same,  or  other  ministerie  or  office  :  euerie  one  off  them  yet 
notwithstanding  in  the  meane  time,  from  the  saied  first  daie 


CXXVI. 

off  marche,  till  newe  Ministers  be  elected,  doing  the  dewtie 
and  dewties  to  your  office  belonging. 

40.  Item,  that  publick  praier  and  fast  be  made  before,  and  at  the 
election  off  all  ministers,  in  time  and  continuaunce,  as  to  the 
congregation  shall  seme  good. 

41.  Item,  that  before  the  election  off  the  ministers,  Seniors 
and  Deacons  the  places  off  the  Scriptures  for  that  purpos 
most  fit  be  openlye  redd,  and  a  Sermon  to  be  made  vppon 
the  same,  As  for  the  present  purpose  shall  be  most  conue- 
nient. 

42.  Item,  that  election  be  made  by  billis,  euerie  man  bringing  a 
litle  bill  rolled  vpp,  the  names  off  such  persons  appointed,  as 
they  shall  think  moste  meete  for  the  office  wherunto  the 
election  is  then  made. 

43.  Item,  that  imposition  off  handes  with  praier  be  vsed  at  the 
institution  off  the  saied  ministers,  seniors,  and  Deacons,  accord- 
ing to  the  doctrine  and  examples  off  the  Scriptures. 

Off  the  callinge  and  assembling  off 
the  congregation. 

Item,  that  the  ministers  and  Seniors  thus  electe,  haue  nowe 
authoritie  as  the  principall  members  off  the  congregation,  to 
gouerne  the  saied  congregation  accordinge  to  goddes  worde, 
and  the  discipline  off  the  churche  as  is  aforsaied  :  And  also,  to 
call  together  and  assemble  the  saied  congregation  for  causes 
and  at  times,  as  shall  to  them  seme  expedient. 

Prouided  allwaies  that  iff  anie  dissention  shall  happen 
betweene  the  ministers  and  the  seniors,  or  the  more  parte  off 
them  and  the  bodie  of  the  congregation  or  the  more  parte  off 
it :  and  that  the  saied  ministers  and  Seniors  in  such  contro- 
uersie,  beinge  desired  therto,  will  not  assemble  the  congrega- 
tion, that  then  the  congregation  maie  of  it  selff  cum  together, 
and  consulte  and  determine  as  concerninge  the  said  contro- 
uersie  or  controuersies  and  the  saied  assembly  to  be  a  lawfull 
congregation,  and  that  which  they  the  more  parte  of  them  so 


14. 


CXXVII. 

assembling  shall  iudge  or  decree,  the  same  to  be  a  lawfull 
decree  and  ordinaunce  of  sufficient  force  to  bynde  the  whole 
congregation  and  euery  member  off  the  same. 

Item,  that  no  man  being  sommoned  or  warned  either  by  45. 
the  ministers  and  Seniors  or  in  the  name  off  the  congregation 
so  as  afore  is  saied  assembled,  to  appere  in  the  congregation 
shall  absent  himselff  but  vppon  a  lawfull  cause,  vnder  paine 
off  discipline  :  And  that  none  shall  departe  owt  off  the  said 
congregation  so  assembled  till  it  be  broken  vp,  with  owt  licence 
off  the  whole  or  the  more  parte  remaining,  vppon  paine  of 
discipline  before  the  whole  congregation  therfore. 

Item  in  case  some  do  departe,  that  yet  notwithstanding  4t; 
those  whiche  still  remaine  (yff  they  be  the  greater  parte)  to 
be  a  lawfull  congregation  :  and  that  whiche  they  or  the  more 
parte  off  them  shall  decree,  to  be  a  lawfull  decree,  off  force  to 
bynde  the  whole  body,  ministers,  seniors,  Deacons  and  euerie 
other  member  or  members  theroff  withowt  exception. 

Item,  that  no  checkinge  or  taunting  be  vsed  in  the  saied        47. 
congregation,  by  anie  persons,  vnder  paine  off  Discipline,  and 
that  in  speakinge,  all  other  shall  holde  their  peace  and  keepe 
silence  :  absteining  also  from  priuate  talke   that  all   thinges 
maie  be  donne  comely  and  in  order. 

Item,  that  it  shall  be  lawfull  that  euerie  member  off  the  4«. 
congregation,  making  protestation  off  licence  before,  to  the 
ministers,  seniors,  and  the  whole  congregation,  maie  speak 
his  mynd  in  the  congregation,  so  he  speake  quietly  and  not 
againste  goddes  truthe,  for  in  case  he  speake  vngodly,  that 
then  it  shall  be  lawfull  for  the  ministers,  seniors,  or  anie  off 
them  to  commaunde  him  silence  by  and  by. 

The  manner  of  receauing  all  sortes  off  persons 
into  the  saied  congregation. 

Firste,  for  the  auoidinge  off  all  heresies  and  sectes  in  oure        49. 
churches  euery  one  aswell  men  as  wemen  which  desier  to  be 
receiued  shall  make  a  declaration,  or  confession  off  their  faithe 


CXXVIII. 

before  the  ministers  and  elders,  shewinge  him  selff  fully  to 
consent  and  agree  with  the  doctrine  off  the  churche  and  sub- 
mittinge  them  selues  to  the  Discipline  off  the  same,  and  the 
same  to  testifie  by  subscribing  therto  yf  they  can  wryte. 

50.  Item,  yff  anye  person  so  desyrous  to  be  receyued  into  the 
congregation  be  notoriously  defamed,  or  noted  off  any  corrupt 
behauiour,  or  euill  opinion  in  doctrine,  or  slaunderous  be- 
hauiour  in  liffe,  the  same  maie  not  by  the  Ministers  and  Elders 
be  admitted,  till  he  haue  either  purged  himselff  theroff  or  ells 
haue  declared  himselff  to  the  ministers  and  elders  penitent  for 
the  same. 

Off  admission  to  the  holie  com- 
munion. 

51.  Item,  that  none  off  the  youthe  be  admitted  to  the  commu- 
nion till  they  be  able  to  make  profession  off  their  faithe  before 
the  whole  congregation,  and  also  to  haue  an  honest  testimony 
off  towardnes  in  godly  conuersation. 

52.  Item,  that  none  openly  noted  as  an  hereticke,  sectarye 
Idolater  or  other  notorious  offender,  shall  be  admitted  to  the 
communion,  before  he  either  purge  or  reconcile  himselff 
publiquely  before  the  whole  congregation,  And  that  euery 
member  off  the  congregation  do  not  refuse  to  render  a  decla- 
ration off  their  faithe,  before  the  Ministers  and  Elders,  when 
so  euer  they  shall  by  them  be  therunto  requyred. 

Thorder  off  proceadinge  to  the  execution  off  the 

Discipline  and  correction  off 

offences. 

53.  For  as  muche  as  no  churche  is  so  perfect,  but  offences  may 
rise,  for  godly  and  charitable  redressing  and  reforming  off 
suche,  this  order  is  to  be  obserued  :  Firste,  yff  anye  off  the 
congregation  be  offensiue  in  manners  or  doctrine,  to  anie  off 
the  brethern,   so   that  the   offence  be  priuate   and  not  pub- 


CXXIX. 

lickely  knowen,  there  can  be  no  better  order  deuised  then 
that  whiche  Christe  himselfF  hathe  appointed  :  whiche  is 
firste  brotherly  to  admonishe  him  alone.  Iff  that  do  not 
preuaile,  to  calle  one  or  two  witnesses  :  yflp  that  also  do  not 
profit  :  Then  to  declare  it  to  the  Ministers  and  Elders : 
To  whom  the  congregation  hathe  geuen  authoritie  to  take 
order  in  suche  cases  accordinge  to  the  Discipline  off  the 
churche. 

Item,  that  it  maye  be  the  better  knowne,  what  is  ment  by  54. 
this  worde  discipline,  or  correction  off  vice,  we  thinke  that 
there  be  3.  degrees  off  Ecc[l]esiasticall  discipline  :  The  first, 
that  the  offender,  acknowledg  his  faulte,  and  shewe  himselff 
penitent  before  the  Ministers  and  the  Seniors  :  The  seconde, 
that  yff  he  will  not  so  doe,  as  well  his  originall  cryme  as 
also  his  contempt  off  the  Ministers  and  Elders  who  haue  the 
authoritie  off  the  churche,  be  openly  declared  by  one  off  the 
Ministers,  before  the  whole  congregation,  and  that  he  ther- 
fore  make  satisfaction,  bothe  for  his  originall  crime  and  also 
for  his  contempt  off  the  Ministers  before  the  whole  congre- 
gation and  that  he  be  not  admitted  to  the  communion  before 
he  haue  satisfied.  The  thirde,  that  yff  he  remaine  still  obsti- 
nate before  the  whole  congregation  after  a  tyme  to  him  by 
the  whole  congregation  limited  to  repent  in,  he  then  shall 
be  openly  denounced  excommunicate  which  excommunica- 
tion, seing  it  is  the  vttermoste  penaltie  off  Ecclesiasticall 
power,  shall  not  therfore  be  executed,  vntill  the  matter  be 
hard  by  the  whole  churche  or  such  as  it  shall  specially  appoint 
therunto. 

Item,  yff  anie  person  shall  be  a  notorious  knowen  offender 
so  as  he  is  offensiue  to  the  whole  congregation,  then  shall  the 
Ministers  and  elders  immediatly  call  the  offendor  before 
them  and  trauell  with  him  to  reduce  him  to  true  repentaunce 
and  satisfyinge  off  the  congregation.  Whiche,  yff  he  obsti- 
natly  refuse  to  do,  then  one  off  the  Ministers  shall  signifie  his 
offence  and  contempte  to  the  whole  congregation,  desyring 
them  to  praie  for  him  :  and  further  to  assijme  him  a  dave  to 


cxxx. 

be  denownced  excommunicate  before  the  congregation  :  except 
in  the  meane  time  the  offendor  submit  himselff  before  the 
whole  congregation  to  the  order  off  the  discipline. 

Item,  that  neither  the  Seniors  and  Ministers,  nor  the  whole, 
congregation  shall  medle  in  anie  ciuill  matters,  as  iudges 
or  determiners  off  the  same,  but  onely  as  arbitres  For  peace 
makinge,  that  the  magistrates  be  troubled  as  litle  as  maye  be 
with  oure  controuersies  :  but  in  case  the  Seniors  and  [Ministers] 
first,  and  afterwardes  the  congregation,  or  such  as  the  con- 
gregation shal  appoint,  can  make  no  peaceable  ende,  by  waye 
off  arbitrement,  then  the  iudgement  off  the  saied  matters  to 
be  referred  to  the  Magistrates  off  the  citie  and  there  to  be 
ended. 

Item,  we  thinke  good  for  oure  quietnes  sake  and  for  the 
conseruinge  off  the  good  reporte  of  oure  nation,  that  all  mat- 
ters  and  controuersies   amonge   oure  selues,  yff  they  cannot 
priuately  be  pacified  (whiche  firste  ought  to  be  attempted)  be 
brought  before   the   Seniors   and   Ministers   and  there  to  be 
harde  :   And  in  case  they  cannot  ende  them,  then  afterward  to 
be  referred  to  the  whole  congregation  or  such  as  the  congre- 
gation shall  apoint  to  the  hearinge  and  determininge  theroff 
yff  they  can  :  and  that  no  matter  be  brought  vnto  the  magis- 
trate or  senate,  to  hinder,  derogate,  or  let  the  authoritie  off  the 
churche  or  the  discipline  theroff,  before  theis  waies  be  proued 
vnder  paine  off  discipline  before  the  congregation,  vnlesse  the 
thinge  appeteine  directly  to  the  state  off  the  citie,  or  offence 
against  the  lawes,  Senate,   or  magistrate,  off  the  same.     In 
whiche  cases  euerie  man  maie  and  ought  forthwith  to  com- 
plaine  to  the  magistrates. 

Item,  where  as  the  best  waie  off  Christian  reconciliation  is, 
that  the  parties  priuately  betwene  them  selues  agree  :  and  the 
next,  that  agrement  be  made  by  mediation  off  some  paceable 
and  godly  men  :  We  decree  that  in  case  2.  4.  6.  moo  or  lesse 
do  consult  amonge  themselues,  or  trauell  with  the  parties,  for 
peace  making  quietly  and  charitably,  then  the  saied  parties, 
in  so  doinge,  do  nothinge  against  good  order  off  discipline, 


CXXXI. 

but  according  to  the  devvtie  and  office  off  Christian  and  peace- 
able men. 

Item  that  the  ministers  and  Seniors  shall  haue  autho[ri]tie  59 
to  heare  and  determine,  on  the  behalff  off  the  whole  churche 
all  offences  (determinable  by  the  congregation)  committed  by 
any  person  in  the  congregation  :  vnlesse  the  partie  called 
before  them  haue  iust  occasion  to  take  exceptions  to  the  sayed 
ministers  and  Seniors :  or  to  appeale  from  them  as  not  com- 
petent iudges. 

Item,  yff  anye  haue  iust  occasion  to  take  exception  to  some  60 
off  the  Ministers  and  Seniors,  and  not  to  the  more  parte  :  that 
then  those  off  the  Ministers  and  Seniors,  to  whom  the  ex- 
ception is  made,  in  this  case  shall  not  be  iudges,  but  in  this 
case  for  the  tyme  remoued,  from  the  ministery  and  that  the 
rest  off  the  Ministers  and  Seniors  to  whom  no  exception 
shall  be  made,  with  as  manie  off  the  congregation  ioyned  to 
them,  as  they  be  in  nomber  whiche  shall  be  excepted,  shalbe 
arbitres  and  iudges  in  the  saied  causes  :  and  that  the  saied 
persons  so  to  be  ioined  to  the  Ministers  and  Seniors,  shalbe 
appointed  by  the  congregation,  the  Ministers  and  seniors 
not  excepted,  geuinge  their  voices  as  others  off  the  congrega- 
tion. 

Item,  yf  exception  be  taken,  to  the  more  parte  of  the  minis-  61. 
ters  and  Seniors,  that  then  the  churche  shall  appointe  6.  moo 
to  be  Iudges  with  the  reste  off  the  ministers,  agaynst  whom 
exception  is  not  made  :  the  same  reste  off  the  ministers  hauing 
their  voices  in  the  election  off  the  6.  as  other  members  off  the 
churche. 

Item  yff  all  the  ministers  and  Seniors  be  suspected  or  62. 
founde  parties,  or  yff  anie  appeale  be  made  from  them,  that 
then  such  appeale  be  made  to  the  bodie  off  the  congregation. 
The  ministers,  seniors,  and  parties  excepted.  And  that  the 
body  off  the  congregation  maye  appoint  so  manie  off  the  con- 
gregatio  to  heare  and  determine  the  sayed  matter  or  matters 
as  it  shall  seeme  good  to  the  congregation. 

Item,  iff  anie  person   doo  vniustly  take  exceptions  to  anie        63. 
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CXXXII. 

off  the  Ministers  or  appeale  from  the  whole  ministery  :  that 
then  such  persons,  besides  the  punishement  for  the  principall 
cause  shall  also  be  punished  as  a  contemner  off  the  ministerie 
and  a  disturber  off  the  churche. 
6i-  Item,  yff  all  the  ministers  and  seniors  from  whom  it  shall 

be  appealed,  as  is  aforesaied,  shall  saye  and  chalenge  the 
more  parte  off  the  congregation  as  not  indifferent  iudges, 
that  then  they  maye  appeale  from  the  congregation  to  the 
magistrate,  prouided  that  iff  any  minister  or  senior  appeale  to 
the  Magistrate  and  be  founde  to  haue  done  it  with  owte  iuste 
cause  that  then,  by  that  facte,  he  shall  be  remoued  from  his 
ministerie  and  shall  neuer  after  be  admitted  in  the  ministery 
before  he  hathe  made  publick  satisfaction  for  the  same. 

Item,  that  the  Ministers  and  Seniors  and  euerie  off  them 
be  subiect  to  Ecclesiasticall  Discipline  and  correction,  as 
other  priuate  members  off  the  churche  be.  And  that  in  case 
anie  person  or  persons  accuse  anie  off  the  Ministers  or  elders 
or  the  more  parte  off  them,  or  them  all,  of  anie  crime  or  crimes 
the  same  order  off  proceadinge  in  all  pointes  be  vsed  as  it  is 
heretofore  particulerly  expressed  in  the  making  off  the  excep- 
tion, to  summ,  or  the  more  part,  or  all,  the  saied  Ministers 
and  Seniors,  as  parties,  or  otherwise  incompetent  arbitres. 

66.  Item,  that  no  accusation  against  any  off  the  Ministers  and 
Seniors  be  admitted  vnder  2.  Witnesses  at  the  leaste.  And 
that  yff  anie  do  vniustlie  accuse  the  Ministers  and  Seniors  or 
any  off  them,  that  he  or  they  shall  therfore  be  moste  sharply 
disciplined  as  a  cotemner  and  defacer  of  the  ministerie  and  a 
disturber  off  the  whole  churche. 

67.  Item,  yf  anie  controuersie  be  vppon  the  dowtfull  meaning 
off  anie  worde  or  wordes  in  the  discipline  that  first  it  be 
referred  to  the  ministers  and  Seniors.  And  yff  they  cannot 
agree  therupon,  then  the  thing  to  be  brought  and  referred  to 
the  whole  congregation. 

Item,  for  the  auoyding  off  occasion  off  contention  hereafter 
that  bookes  of  discipline  cocerning  this  churche  hereto  fore 
made  be  of  no  effecte  hereafter,  but  voyde  and  Canceled. 


CXXXIII. 

Item,  that  all  bookes  and  writinges  off  recorde   concern-        69. 
ing  actes  and  orders  in  this   church e,  be  deliuered,  and  re- 
maine  in  the  custodie  off  the  ministers  and  elders  for  the  tyme 
being. 

Item,  that  a  Register  booke  be  kept  by  the  ministers  and        70. 
Seniors  off  all  suche  names  as  be  in  the  congregation  and  such 
as  shall  be  here  after  admitted  to  be  written,  in  the  same. 

Item,  that  manages  Christenings  and  burialls  with  the  daye         71. 
and  yere  theroff  be  registred  in  the  same  booke. 

Item,  for  the  auoyding  all  controuersyes,  that  hereafter  72. 
maye  happen,  it  is  ordeined,  that  all  testamentes  and  willes 
made  by  any  off  oure  nation,  dyinge  in  this  congregation,  shall 
be  brought  foorthe  and  exhibited  to  the  Seniors  off  this  con- 
gregation for  the  tyme  being,  for  a  perpetuall  testimonye  off 
the  truthe  in  that  behalff. 

Item,  that  bicause  all  mennes  doinges  he  vncerteine  and  73. 
changeable,  the  discipline  and  orders  off  the  churche  shalbe 
read  openly  once  euery  quarter,  and  warninge  theroff  before, 
shall  be  geuen  to  the  whole  congregation  bothe,  that  euerie 
member  therof  maye  knovve  their  devvtie,  and  that  euerie  man 
maye  with  libertie,  quietly  speak  his  minde  for  the  chaunging 
and  amending  of  it  or  anye  parte  therof,  according  to  goddes 
worde,  and  the  same  exhibited  in  writinge  with  the  arguments 
and  reasons  off  that  his  requeste. 


The  names  off  suche  as  subscribed  to  this 

discipline,  and  were  off  the 

churche. 


Thomas  Crawley  Richard  Alvaie. 

Christopher  Hales.  Walter  Franck 

Thomas  Ashley  Richard  Letter. 

Edmond  Oldsworth  Richard  Mason 

Edmonde  Sutton  Richarde  Beesley. 
Thomas  Acworth 

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CXXXIIII. 


Richard  Nagors 
Robart  beste. 
Henry  Reignoldes 
Perciuall  Harrington. 
Richard  Porter. 
Magnus  Elyof. 
Henry  Perry  us 
Iohn  Browne 
Dauid  Whitthead 
Iohn  Mullins. 
Iohn  Redder. 
Iohn  Hales 
Gre.  Railton 
Alexander  nowell 
Iohn  Wilford 
Iohn  Fauconer 
Thomas  Serbis 
Thomas  Wilson 
Iohn  Bedell 
Iohn  Olde 
lames  Peers 
Thomas  Sandes 
Edward  Par  point 


Thomas  Walker. 
Iohn  Kelke 
Thomas  Watts. 
Leonarde  parry 
Robarte  Crowley. 
William  Master 
Laurance  Kent. 
Thomas  Knolle 
Peter  sade 
Iohn  Fates 
William  Raulinges. 
Thomas  Water 
Thomas  Willobie 
Edmond  Tomson 
Richard  Luddington. 
Thomas  oldsworthe. 
Edmond  Harries. 
Philipp  Adishe. 
Gawin  dixson. 
Iohn  Geoffrie. 
Anthony  Donninge 
Edward  Colton. 
Iohn  Turpin. 


The  21.  off  December  1557.  theis  were 
added  to  the  churche. 


Sir  Frances  Knolls 
Edward  Boyes. 
Iohn  Browne. 
Frances  Wilforde. 
Thomas  Knot. 
Thomas  Donnell 


Arthur e  Saule 
Richard  Sandell 
Robart  loyner 
Henry  Wood 
Richard  Lynbroughe 
Ralfe  Selye. 


cxxxv. 

Henry  Knolls  Mighell  Coke 

Thomas  Wilford.  Thomas  TodChamber 

William  Dauage  Alaxender  Nowell 

Reignolde  Baker.  Iolin  Ade 

Robarte  Hodgston  Thomas  Bagster. 

Iohn  Penteny  Daniell  Rogers. 

Now  that  yow  haue  harde  bothe  the  olde  discipline,  and 
that  whiche  was  by  the  authoritie  off  the  magistrate  deuised. 
order  requireth  that  I  place  here  the  reasons  whiche  Maister 
Home  and  the  rest  off  his  side  brought  against  the  newe  dis- 
cipline established. 

And  to  the  ende  this  volume  shuld  not  excede  measure  in 
greatnes,  I  think  it  expedient  to  do  here,  as  I  haue  done  all- 
ready,  and  minde  to  do  through  owt  the  whole  story,  whiche 
is,  off  a  leafe,  to  take,  (as  I  might  saie)  a  lyne  or  two,  as  one 
lothe  too  weary  yow  sith  a  taste  maie  suffice. 

To  the  7.  Article  off  the  newe  vii. 

Discipline. 

To  the  Article  off  2.  Ministers  off  like  charge  and  autho-  13,  Sept. 
ritie  we  think  we  haue  good  reasons  to  require  that  there  be  f^' 
no  moo  in  the  speciall  burthen  and  charge  pastorall  then  one,  Chambers. 
to  whom  the  others  ioyned  with  him  for  preachinge  off  the  wu7tdivers 
worde  and  ministringe  the  Sacraments  shall  not  incure  and  others. 
charge,  gouernment   and  preheminence,   be  in   all   respectes 
coequall. 

The  Reasons. 

Firste,  the  scripture  speakinge  or  treatinge  of  the  office  of 
a  Bishopp  or  minister,  so  speakethe  as  it  were  to  be  presup- 
posed and  as  an  order  receiued,  that  one  shuld  in  cure  and 
charge  be  burthened  aboue  other,  and  in  gouernement,  for 
order  sake,  in  preheminence. 

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CXXXVI. 

Item  the  expositions  off  all  auncient  Authors  and  Wryters 
vpon  the  scripturs  that  toucheth  that  matter  do  alltogether 
as  they  seeme,  to  gather  owte  off  the  texte,  conclude,  de- 
clare, and  teache  one  Minister  or  pastor  in  respectes  afore- 
sayde  preferred  and  charged  aboue  other  and  thus  dothe  the 
newe  also. 

Item  this  order  off  one  in  cure,  charge,  and  gouernement 
preferred,  haue  all  the  churches  to  be  red  off,  planted  by  the 
Apostels  and  all  others  in  the  primatiue  churche  obserued, 
whose  examples  off  vs  are  not  to  be  neglected. 

Item,  like  as  good  reason  off  it  selff  forceth  and  concludeth  : 
so  all  good  autors  bothe  newe  and  olde  doo  freely  teache  that 
for  conseruation  off  vnitie  and  Concorde  and  for  auoidinge  off 
schismes  and  discorde,  it  is  requisite  and  necessarie  that  a 
prerogatiue  and  preheminence  for  cure,  charge,  and  gouerne- 
mente  be  committed  and  geuen  to  some  one,  to  be  (as  it  is 
afore  saide)  charged  aboue  others. 

Item,  all  the  reformed  churches  off  Germany  for  the  moste 
parte,  be  off  that  iudgement,  and  therfore  obserue  that 
order. 

Item,  yff  Nicene  councell  decreed  and  ordered,  for  good 
order  sake,  that  one  Bishopp,  and  not  many  shulde  be  ap- 
poynted  to  euerye  one  cytie,  howe  more  is  it  off  necessitie  for 
order  sake  that  one  litle  flocke  shulde  be  content  with  one. 

Item,  who  is  ignorant  off  this,  that  for  the  moste  parte 
wher  not  one  but  rather  two  muste  haue  the  especiall  cure 
and  charge,  there  commonly  thinges  be  moste  negligentlye 
done  and  not  so  muche  regarded  and  cared  for  as  otherwise 
they  woulde  be. 


The  answer  off  the  churche,  touchinge  this  7.  Article, 
to  the  reasons  off  the  dissenting 


breth 


ern. 


To  ike  1.         We  se  not  by  the  scriptures,  that  anie  authoritie  is  geuen  to 
anie  one  aboue  others,  but  rather  to  the  contrary. 


CXXXVII. 

As  concerninge  olde  wryters,  we  knowe  that  Ierome  ex-  Jo  t/ie  2. 
presly  declarethe   that    in  the    beginninge   the    churche  was  Holes. 
ruled  equally  by  manie.     But  after  when  schismes  began   to  ^J"^^1 
springe  the  chiefe  authoritie  was  geuen  to  one  for  authorities  Mullins. 
sake,  and  by  mannes  ordinaunce  rather  then  by  deuine  autho-  CmuZi 
ritie,  wherfore  we  coclude  that  as  for  schismes  the  firste  order  Boesley 
of  many  was  left  ad  one  chiefe  apointed.     So  nowe  for  the  parry 
auoidinge  of  tvranie  a  worse  euell  in  the  churche  then  schismes,  "  lfJU- 

.  .  Sorby. 

whiche,  as  apearethe  by  the  Bishop  of  Rome  is  grownded  vp-  Bedell. 
pon  one,  we  thinke  it  good  to  returne  to  the  firste  order  off  two  j^"^"''' 
or  moo  equall  ministers  accordinge  to   the  institution  off  the  Cranky 
Apostells  as  Saint  Ierome  teacheth.     And  that  those  lerned  Sutton 
men  who  do  moste  earnestly  maintaine   the  gouernment  off^"u/l"''s 
one,  confesse  that  vntill  the  tyme  off  Dionysius,  who  was  after  diuen 
Christe  300.  yeres  and  more,  the  Regimente  was  equally  com-  otu'',y- 
mitted  to  manye.     And  as  for  the  newe,  there  be  examples  off 
the  beste  churche  to  the  contrary.     And  Maister  Caluin  in  the 
8.  Chap,  off  his   Institutions  the  42.   and  52.  dyuisions  De- 
clarethe expresly  that  there   were  From  the  beginninge  more 
Ministers  off  the  worde  and  that  it  is  but  off  mannes  ordi- 
naunce that  one  was  afterwarde  made  chieff. 


That  is  alleadged  off  the  reformed  churches  in  Germany  To  the  5. 
the  multitude  ought  to  serue  no  more  for  one,  then  the  best 
reformed  churches,  for  two  ministers  off  the  worde. 

As    concerninge    Nicene   councell    it    is    before   answered,  To  tlie  6. 
and  in  that  they  decreed  there  shulde  be  but  one,  it  conse- 
quently folowithe    that  before  the    saide   decree  there   were 
many. 

And  iff  those  godly  fathers  were  nowe  lyuinge  and  did  st 
how  Antechriste  is  established  vppon  one,  they  woulde  more 
gladly  returne  to  the  firste  order  off  many  equall  for  the  auoid- 
inge  off  that  moste  horrible  mischieff.  As  they  then  did  for 
the  auoidinge  off  Schismes  appointe  euery  citie  one. 

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CXXXVIII. 

To  the  7.  Negligence  is  no  more  in  two  then  one.  habilitie  off  well 

thouullic  doinge  thinges   is    more  in  two  then  in  one.     And   siknesse 

didsathen  beinge  so  riffe  in  this  citye,  it  is  as  muche  as  2.  can  well  doo, 

not  doo  and  one  maie  be  sicke.     And  one  maie  willfully  and  suddenly 

so  nowel  leaue  his  flocke, 

warrant 

yoic.  Wherfore,  two  be  necessary,   ells,  in  the  suddaine  sicknes 

off  one  onelie  Minister,  when  manie  other  be  sike  also,  dewe 
visitation  off  the  sike  is  not  well  seene  to  and  preachinge 
omitted,  as  it  hathe  chaiiced  in  oure  churche,  yea,  and  although 
we  haue  many.  And  therfore  reason  tellethe  vs  that  it  is 
expedient  to  haue  two  rather  then  one. 

Home,  &c.  Vpon  the  8.  Artie. 

Item,  where  it  is  prouided  that  the  Ministers  shall  by  them- 
selues  or  their  deputies  dis[c]harge  the  sermons  and  other  their 
dueties  when  necessarie  case  shall  so  requyre  :  we  saye  it  is 
superfluous,  for  a  necessarie  cause  nede  the  not  to  be  pro- 
uided for  by  lawe :  besides  that  the  alowinge  off  deputies  by 
lawe  made  for  that  purpose  openethe  a  windowe  off  negli- 
gence to  the  ministers  in  the  executinge  off  their  office. 

Whitthead,  &c. 

A  lawe  dothe  well  prouide  that  suche  maye  be  in  a  redynes 
whiche  shall  serue  in  necessitie,  It  is  prouided  in  manye 
cities,  by  a  lawe  that  in  dreade  off  fier  euerie  man  haue  a  bucket 
off  water  at  his  dore,  whiche  is  a  thinge  necessarie.  And  vni- 
uersally  the  multitude  off  good  lawes  be  grownded  vppon 
causes  necessarye.  Wherfore,  we  think  that  position,  that  ne- 
cessarie causes  nede  not  to  be  prouided  for  by  a  lawe,  ought 
to  be  taken  for  no  lawe  :  and  where  it  is  alleadged  that  it  open- 
ethe a  windowe  off  negligence  to  the  Ministers,  it  is  not  so, 
for  the  appointemente  off  those  deputies  apperteinethe  more 
to  the  Seniors  then  to  the  Ministers  by  oure  discipline. 

Home  &c.  Artie.  10. 


CXXXIX. 

Item,  in  the  Article  of  Catechisme,  we  think  it  is  super- 
fluous and  tedious  to  haue  2.  Catechismes  in  one  after  noone 
And  also  think  that  Maister  Caluins  Catechisme  ought  to  be 
vsed  no  otherwise  with  vs  then  it  is  in  Caluins  churche  that 
alloweth  and  vseth  the  same. 

Whithead  &c. 

The  first  Catechisme  is  onely  ordred  for  the  children  and  is 
but  an  examination  and  apposinge  off  them.  The  other  is  not 
onely  for  children  but  for  all  the  congregation,  &c. 

Now,  for  so  muche  as  the  reasons  and  answers  are  verye 
long  and  yet  some  off  them  repeated,  in  Maister  Homes  ob- 
jections to  the  discipline  whiche  he  offred  vpp  to  the  Magis- 
trate, I  will  here  passe  them  ouer  and  come  to  the  saied  ob- 
jections, and  the  answers  off  the  church  to  the  same. 

Home  and  the  rest  off  his  side  to 
the  Magistrate. 

We  come  to  that  nowe  (right  honorable  S.)  whiche  we 
were  charged  to  doo  by  your  commaundment  and  appointe- 
ment :  that  for  as  much  as  for  the  apeasinge  and  finall  put- 
ting awaie  off  the  contention  betweene  vs  and  oure  brethern, 

o 

we  shulde  shewe  why  we  dissente  from  them,  and  cannot  pro- 
ceade  in  the  same  passage  and  waye  that  they  doo  :  We  shall 
so  open  vnto  yow  oure  defence  and  cause  euen  as  we  desier  to 
be  iustified  bothe  in  oure  cosciences  and  before  god.  How- 
beit,  we  are  verye  sory  that  your  H.  Hathe  lymited  vs  so 
shorte  tyme,  so  as  in  a  cause  whiche  (for  the  waightines  ad 
difficultie  off  it)  ought  to  be  debated  vppon  with  more  leasure, 
and  verie  manye  thinges  to  be  wayed  to  and  fro,  we  muste  off 
force  in  a  manner  holde  oure  peace  and  say  nothing. 

But  oure  truste  is  that  your  H.  will  heareafter  remedy 
this  displeasure,  in  grauntinge  vs  longer  tyme  that  we  maye 
more  amplie  hereafter  confirme   oure  cause,  whiche  we  are 

o  G 


CXL. 

forced  to  set  foorthe  naked  and  with  owte  anie  defence  at  all 
whiche  we  will  moste  gladly  doo  and  desier  that  we  maie 
freely  be  permitted  to  doo.  This  is  the  thinge  that  we  often 
sought  for  when  we  consulted  amonge  oure  brethern  for  the 
correctinge  and  amendinge  off  oure  discipline,  that,  as  longe 
as  the  matter  and  cause  was  in  consultation,  we  might  so 
longe  polishe  and  finishe  more  at  large  that  was  alleadged,  to 
adde  vnto  all  oure  sentences,  before  the  sentences  brought  in, 
and  to  strike  owte  and  take  awaie  from  them  yff  ought  semed 
worthie  to  be  taken  awaie,  albeit  any  thinge  were  put  in,  as 
flrme  and  established  by  oure  subscription :  Whiche  thinge 
we  no  we  eftsonnes  desier  moste  earnestly  at  your  H.  Handes. 
that  for  as  muche  as  nothinge  is  yet  concluded  and  deter- 
mined by  your  H.  there  be  no  such  preiudice  obiected  vnto 
oure  cause,  but  that  we  maye  confirme  all  oure  allegations 
with  firme  and  available  argumentes. 

And  in  deede,  seinge  we  muste  nowe  intreate  in  order  oft' 
those  thinges  whiche  we  reprehende  and  condeinne  in  oure 
bretherns  made  Discipline  :  This  we  first  reprehend  vniuer- 
sally,  that  any  other  alteration  or  innouation  off  thinges  shuld 
be  in  oure  affaiers  then  suche  as  serue  onely  to  the  correct- 
inge and  amendinge  off  that  Discipline  whiche  hathe  byn 
heretofore  receaued  and  vsed  in  oure  churche.  Wherin,  we 
will  seeme  also  somewhat  to  satisfie  oure  bretherns  curious 
mindes.  This  we  saie,  bicause  there  is  almoste  nothinge 
that  we  think  is  to  be  innouated  with  suche  poste  haste  and 
in  dede,  there  are  many  and  waightie  causes  whiche  do  all- 
together  pull  vs  backe  from  theis  innouations,  and  byd  vs 
stick  still  to  oure  olde  discipline,  and  not  for  the  pleasure  off 
some  men,  and  contrary  also  to  your  commaundement  (geuen 
for  the  amendinge  and  not  for  the  makinge  off  any  newe 
Discipline)  to  contemne  and  caste  away  that  whiche  so  many 
haue  alowed. 

Whithead  and  the  rest  off  that  side  answere 
in  this  wise. 


CXLI. 

We  had  purposed  (right  honorable  a[n]d  righteous  Magis- 
trates) as  we  also  signified  vnto  your  honours)  to  haue  made 
no  answere  at  all  vnto  theis  vnbrotherly  reproches  off  Maister 
Home  and  Maister  Chambers  (for  they  are  the  onely  Authors 
theroff)  in  as  muche  as  they  be  vnworthy  to  be  answered 
vnto,  seinge  they  haue  no  sure  grownds,  but  bare  assertions 
onely,  whiche  are  as  easilie  denied  as  affirmed.  And  be- 
sides that  Maister  Home  saide  openly  in  the  hearinge  off 
all  his  complyces,  before  Maister  Bartue  D.  Cox  and  D. 
Sandes,  arbytres  appointed  by  your  authoritie,  that  he  was 
not  desyrous  that  we  shulde  answere,  wherin  indede,  he  was 
not  altogether  a  foole.  For  he  knewe  well  ynough  howe 
fond  geare  he  had  written,  and  would  beare  awaie  this  bragg 
the  while,  not  as  though  we  woulde  not,  but  coulde  not 
answere  so  light  accusations.  Whiche  petit  bragg  (Wherin 
he  so  muche  deliteth)  we  woulde  haue  byn  content  to  haue 
spared  him,  had  not  your  authoritie  (who  thought  it  meete 
for  vs  in  anie  wise  to  make  answere)  come  betweene  :  And  in 
case  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  shall  reade  some 
thinges  here  in  oure  answere  that  they  woulde  not,  let 
them  remember  that  they  haue  driuen  vs  to  it,  in  that  they 
haue  blustred  owte  in  wrytinge  so  vnworthie  matters  (and 
that  so  falsely)  off  suche  a  multitude  off  their  banished 
countrie  men.  for  they  (Forgettinge  all  humanitie  and  Good 
manner),  obiecte  before  the  Magistrate  (and  that  often) 
pouertie  to  a  great  manye  off  oures  nowe  in  exile  as  a  most 
highe  reproche.  What  then  ?  Are  they  banished  and  poore 
willingly  or  parforce  ?  Were  they  not  and  might  they  not 
(yflT  they  set  more  by  goodes  then  godlynesse,  be  richer  ? 
And  whens  haue  they  this  pouertie  whiche  ye  Maister  Home 
and  maister  Chabers  caste  so  tauntingly  in  their  teeth  ?  And 
whence  haue  ye  this  plentye  wherby  ye  looke  so  high  againste 
your  brethem  ?  Surely  yow  ought  to  haue  aduised  your  selff, 
seinge  ye  carry  the  common  purse,  before  ye  had  so  rashly 
and  so  vndiscreetly  published  theis  words  vnto  the  right 
honorable  Magistrate,  with  the  reproche  off  your  selff  and  off 


CXLII. 

your  countrie  men.  In  dede  we  woulde  haue  sufFred  theis 
(as  common  reproches)  to  be  buried  in  perpetuall  silence  iff 
it  semed  not  otherwise  meete  to  the  right  honorable  magis- 
trate, (whose  authoritie  we  obeyinge  as  yt  becomethe  vs)  shall 
answere  particulerly  vnto  all  the  particuler  chapters  off  your 
assertions. 

To  the  preface. 

Where  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  desire  li- 
cence to  saie  and  vnsaie,  to  put  too  and  take  fro,  to  subscribe, 
and  reuoke,  to  doo,  and  vndoo  all,  as  they  think  good  them- 
selues,  they  seeme  to  require  their  owne  right :  for  they  desier 
no  other  then  that  they  haue  byn  vsed  hitherto  to  doo,  as  it  is 
moste  euidently  knowen  almost  to  all  the  whole  congrega- 
tion, notwithstading  this  (albeit)  it  is  againste  S.  Paules  rule, 
who  denieth  it  to  be  his  propertie  to  saie  yea  and  nay,  nether 
haue  we  anye  more  merueil,  that  the  same  Maister  Home 
and  Maister  Chambers  think  the  olde  Discipline  is  to  be 
reteined  still  as  a  thinge  that  bothe  hathe  permitted  them 
free  libertie  to  doo  yet  hitherto  what  they  woulde  at  their 
owne  pleasure,  and  shewethe  no  waye  howe  to  amende  those 
matters  that  they  haue  don  a  misse  a  great  while.  And  yet  bi- 
cause  we  haue  prouided  by  the  authoritie  bothe  off  the  magis- 
trat  and  off  the  congregation  that  the  like  shall  not  happen 
hereafter,  they  accuse  vs  off  innouation  forsoothe.  Where 
they  make  cauillation  aboute  discipline  to  be  amended  and 
not  to  be  newe  made,  and  accuse  vs  as  though  we  haue  done 
against  the  magistrates  commaundement :  We  answere  that 
all  occasions  off  oure  olde  controuersies  were  taken  awaye  by 
the  magistrates  commaundement  the  laste  off  February  :  but 
the  olde  Discipline,  as  a  thing  not  perfect  nor  indifferent  hathe 
byn  the  speciall  cause  off  our  controuersies  in  dede  :  Ther- 
fore  we  affirme  that  it  was  taken  awaye  by  that  commaunde- 
mente,  and  power  geuen  to  the  congregation  to  make  an 
other,  as  it  is  declared  in  the  plaine  wordes  off  the  same  com- 


CXLIII. 

maun  dement :  Further  more,  for  as  muche  as  we  haue  kepte 
still  the  greateste  parte  off  the  olde  discipline  whiche  semed  in- 
different as  it  apeareth  euidently  in  the  booke  off  oure  disci- 
pline, let  them  call  it  (seinge  it  so  pleaseth  them)  the  amend- 
inge  off  the  olde  discipline,  in  asmuche  as  to  amende,  is 
nothinge  ells  than  to  correcte  that  which  is  amisse,  to  put 
owte  that  is  euell  and  to  put  in  that  is  wantinge. 

Therfore,  whither  they  call  it  oure  newe  made  discipline 
or  the  olde  amended,  we  will  not  striue  with  them  abowte 
that  matter,  seinge,  we  geue  them  leaue  to  speak  at  their  plea- 
sure. Onely  we  declare  that  we  haue  done  nothinge  against 
the  magistrates  commaundement  in  that  behalff. 

Obiection  to  the  title  off  the 
Discipline. 

In  the  tytle  and  entrance  vnto  their  Discipline  we  reproue  Harm. 
this  as  plaine  false  in  that  they  saye  the  booke  off  their  dis- 
cipline was  collected  by  15.  men  appointed  do  doo  the  same  Yet  olde 
by  the  congregation  and  the  authoritie  off  the  Magistrate,  and  f^r 
so  exhibited  afterwarde  vnto  oure  congregation  by  the  same  MM 
15.  men.     For  it  was  bothe  collected  before  the  matter  was  almesman, 
committed  vnto  them  and  confirmed  before  hande  by  many  y^M™1 
mennes  handes  subscribed.  of  L.  to 

Touchinge  the  42.     Whiche  approued  this  discipline  and  ST** 
confirmed  it  by  subscribinge,  this  we  maie  alleadge  there  are  booke  °fi 
24.  off  the  whiche  lyue  off  other  mennes  liberalise  and  almes,  oSJ' 
so  as  they  maye  seeme  rather  to  followe  other  mennes  wills,  others' 

.       .  '  more 

and  to  be  inclined  to  their  pleasures  :  specially,  seinge  so  large  blyndeihen 

and  ample  promises  aswell  to  Hue  at  libertie  as  to  haue  their 

slender  liuinge  releued,  haue  byn  made  to  this  intent. 

Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  denie  the  booke  off  WhxOead 
discipline  to  be  collected  by  the  15  men,  bycause  they  beinge 
appointed  off  the  15.  haue  labored  by  all  means  that  nothinge 
shulde  be   donne  for  the  settinge  off  the   congregation  at  a 


CXLIIII. 

quyet  staye.  And  when  they  perceiued  that  they  could  not 
hinder  it,  they  came  not  with  the  reste,  the  2.  laste  daies 
accordinge  to  appointmet  so  as  by  that  meanes,  some  of  the 
iuste  nober  off  15.  men  shulde  be  wantinge.  was  not  the  booke 
therfore  bothe  Lawfully  collected  and  lawfully  exhibited  to  the 
congregation  bycause  2.  or  3.  off  the  appointed  men  withdrew 
themselues  againste  right  and  equitie  ?  What  shulde  be  deter- 
mined in  anie  affaires,  yff  the  matter  shuld  tarie,  till  alto- 
gether (not  one  except)  shulde  agree  throughly  in  all  pointes  ? 
Where  they  saie  the  booke  was  collected  before  this  matter 
was  committed  to  the  15.  men  is  it  a  plaine  slaunder.  Maister 
Home  and  Maister  Chambers  might  be  iustly  ashamed  to 
cast  pouertie  in  oure  bretherns  teeth  nowe  in  exile  (and  that 
before  the  Magistrate)  and  to  lye  so  openly,  that  24.  off  oure 
company  that  subscribed  lyue  off  other  mennes  almes.  x\nd 
yff  so  manye  poore  men  haue  for  saken  Maister  purse  bearer 
Chambers  is  it  not  a  plaine  matter  that  they  haue  byn  euell 
intreated  at  Chambers  hande  before  tyme  ?  But  where  they 
gather  that  the  poore  men  seeme  to  haue  folowed  other 
mennes  myndes  in  subscribinge  to  the  Discipline,  rather  then 
their  owne  :  it  is  fondly  gathered  :  in  asmuche  as  on  the  con- 
trary parte  it  is  moste  true  that  they  whiche  (were  they  poore 
men)  folowid  not  Chambers  when  he  ranne  a  Waye  with 
the  bagge,  regarded  their  conscience  more  then  the  lyuinge 
forsomuche  as  bothe  they  and  all  other  might  be  certeinly 
assured  that  they  shulde  moste  greuously  offend  not  onely 
the  purse  bearer  Chambers  but  allso  two  or  three  other  off 
the  richer  sorte  off  oure  congregation.  But  howe  muche 
more  iustly  might  we  returne  this  accusatio  (which  they  falsely 
bend  againste  oures)  vpon  M.  Home  and  M.  Chamb.  and 
manye  other  off  their  nomber  whiche  haue  folowed  Chamb.  in 
runninge  awaye  from  the  congregation,  bycause  he  caried 
and  shewed  them  a  well  stuffed  powche,  as  it  were  a  stan- 
dard to  followe.  for  neither  Maister  Chambers  nor  Maister 
Home  durst  euer  haue  departed  from  the  congregation  as 
they  haue  done  but  vppon  truste  off  the  powche,  which  the 


CXLV. 

one  hathe  allwayes  borne,  and  the  other  hath  byri  euer  an 
inseparable  waiter  vppon,  where  so  euer  it  were  caried  :  and 
and  yet  in  the  meane  while,  this  gaye  fellowe  Home,  from 
alofte  contemneth  so  great  a  company  off  his  countrie  men, 
as  beggers  and  caitiues  in  comparison  off  himselff. 

But  in  case  there  be  so  many  amonge  vs  that  liue  off 
other  mennes  almes,  as  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Cham- 
bers do  reason.  And  seinge  Maister  Chambers  tooke  vppon 
him  especially  at  the  intreaty  off  Maister  Home,  the  charge 
off  gathering  godlye  mens  almes  publickely  in  the  name  of 
the  churche,  for  the  relieff  off  the  poore  off  oure  congrega- 
tion as  it  is  already  knowen  vnto  many  and  shall  hereafter 
by  the  whole  matter  seuerally  setforth,  be  moste  euidently 
knowen  to  moo  :  what  mercie  and  pitye  is  this  off  thers 
towardes  their  brethern  to  leaue  so  many  miserable  people 
behinde  them,  contrary  to  their  promesse  made  to  the  con- 
gregation, and  to  runne  awaie  not  onely  from  the  congrega- 
tion, but  also  owte  off  the  cytye  snappinge  awaie  the  bagge 
with  them  (whiche  conteinethe  many  mennes  almes  gathered 
for  the  poore  in  the  name  off  the  congregation,  and  to  leaue 
them  all  destitute,  and  also  to  leaue  certeine  preachers  ap- 
pointed by  them  (whiche  haue  serued  the  churche  a  yere  and 
more,  and  to  whom  they  promised  that  they  shulde  lack 
nothing)  in  a  great  deale  off  dett  to  other  men  for  their  neces- 
sary bourde  I 

And  where  they  playe  such  prankes,  they  caste  our  bre- 
thern in  the  teeth  still  with  pouertie,  by  the  waie  off  reproche, 
before  the  Magistrate.  Let  them  go  too  therfore,  seinge  their 
pleasure  is  suche  and  nomber  their  owne  copanye  and  leaue 
owte  their  seruauntes,  their  boyes,  and  suche  as  depende 
vppon  Chambers  purse  (for  he  hathe  made  it  his  owne,  and 
dedicated  it  to  his  owne  propertie)  and  let  them  tell  vs  then, 
howe  many  there  be  left  on  their  parte,  yff  they  be  not  ashamed 
to  tell  howe  manie  they  be  :  Where  we  did  comforte  our 
poore  brethern  to  oure  power  whom  Chambers  running  awaye 


CXLVI. 

with  the  hagge  Had  made  astonished,  and  woulde  haue  had 
them  vtterly  discouraged,  they  lay  it  to  oure  charge  as  euell 
done  :  what  is  there  manifeste  declaration  els  but  that  the  poore 
of  our  congregation  shuld  be  vtterly  destitute  not  onely  of 
relieff  but  also  off  all  hope  of  reliefe  whiche  hathe  euer  bin  the 
vttermoste  comforte  off  suche  as  be  in  myserie. 

In  the  Discipline  it  selff  an  obiection. 
Home.  The  next   thinge  nowe  where  in   we   agree   not,   is,  that 

whiche  is  spoken  off  the  2.  newe  Ministers.  This  they  treat 
vppon  in  the  7.  Article.  This  we  defende,  that  the  scripture 
doth  leane  and  inclyne  rather  vnto  one,  than  vnto  2.  whiche 
one,  as  he  muste  not  be  aboue  the  reste  by  lordeshipp,  so  yet 
ought  he  to  be  aboue  other  in  charge  and  in  burthe,  in  as 
muche  as  he  muste  nedes  geue  a  greater  accoumpte,  then  the 
reste  for  the  flock  comitted  vnto  him  and  to  his  charge.  Theis 
we  are  able  to  proue.  Firste,  by  the  circumstances  off  the 
places  off  scriptures  considered,  secondly,  by  the  interpreta- 
cions  off  auncient  fathers,  and  the  best  lerned  men  off  oure 
tyme  or  latter  daies.  Thirdly,  in  the  examples  of  the  churches 
instituted  by  the  Apostells,  and  most  holy  men  after  their 
tyme,  foorthly,  this  newe  order  off  2.  Ministers  or  moo,  hathe 
bene  (as  all  the  wyseste  men  haue  alwaies  reasoned)  the  seeds 
ad  fountains  of  all  dissentions  and  cotentions.  And  like  as 
for  order  sake  and  for  conseruation  off  the  churches  in  peace, 
oure  elders  thought,  that  one  shulde  necessarely  be  aboue  the 
reste :  so  also  in  this  oure  remembrance,  the  greatest  lerned 
men  as  Caluin,  Brentius,  and  many  other  do  think.  Off  theis 
matters  the  beste  instituted  and  reformed  churches  in  Germany 
can  also  be  the  beste  witnesses.  Theis,  we  professe  that  we 
bothe  can  and  will  more  largely  shewe  as  farther  occasion  shal 
hereafter  serue,  whiche  we  cannot  doo  nowe  for  that  we  be 
lymited  to  so  short  a  time. 

The  answere. 
Whithead.      As   concerninge   the   two  Ministers   off  the   worde.     We 


CXLV1I. 

affirme  that  it  is  lawful]  by  the  worde  off  God  to  haue  either 
2.  or  moo. 

Where  theis  men  saye  the  scriptures  do  leane  rather  to 
one  that  is  to  affirme  onely,  and  to  proue  nothinge,  where  as 
Paule  almoste  in  all  his  Epistles  writeth  allwaies  as  vnto 
moo  off  equall  authoritie  in  euerie  churche  and  not  as  vnto  one 
principall.  Where  they  alleadge  the  ancient  Doctors,  Ierome 
whiche  is  the  moste  diligent  in  Histone  matters,  reporteth 
moste  plainly  that  in  the  beginninge  there  were  many, 
and  afterwarde  for  the  auoidinge  of  dissentions,  the  chieff 
authoritie  was  comitted  vnto  one  as  the  chieff.  But  yet  saithe 
he,  that  was  donne  rather  by  the  statute  off  men  then  by  the 
authoritie  off  God.  Where  they  speake  so  muche  off  the 
mischiffe  off  contention  in  the  churche,  we  confesse  it  is  a  great 
euell,  But,  that  tyranny  is  a  more  pestiferous  destruction  to 
the  churche,  and  that  tyranny  crept  into  the  churche  by  one, 
the  Bishopp  off  Rome,  maye  teache  vs  at  large.  Therfore,  for 
as  muche  as  bothe  waies,  either  by  one  or  by  moo,  euells 
maie  happen,  we  thought  good  to  beware  more  diligently  of 
the  greater  euell.  Where  they  bringe  in  Caluin  for  one,  we 
maruell  with  what  face  they  can  do  that  seinge  it  is  owte  off' 
all  dowte,  that  he  vpon  one  daie  and  in  one  houre  instituted 
two  Ministers  off  equall  authoritie  in  all  thinges  in  the  En- 
glishe  congregation  whiche  is  at  Geneua.  And  also  seinge 
that  in  the  8.  chapter  and  42.  and  52.  diuisions  off  his  Chris- 
tian Institution,  he  declareth  openly  that  there  were  from  the 
beginninge  moo  ministers  off  the  worde  off'  equall  authoritie 
in  the  churche  off  Christe.  Where  they  alleage  the  examples 
off  the  churches  off  Germany  we  also  want  not  examples  off 
the  dutche  churche  at  Emden  wherin  their  be  3.  Ministers  off' 
the  worde  off  equall  authoritie.  And  off  the  frenche  churche 
off  this  Citie,  and  off  the  Englishe  churche  off  Geneua,  yea 
and  Caluin  himselff  is  counted  superior  to  his  felowes  not  by 
authoritie  off  office,  but  in  respect,  off  his  lerningc  and  merites. 
Therfore  in  asmuche  as  it  is  also  permitted  vnto  vs  by  the 
magistrates  appointement,  to   chuse  one  or  moo  :    let  them 


CXLVIII. 

leaue  their  wranglinge  for  a  thinge  indifferent,  as  though  it 
were  for  lyffe  and  lande.  Where  they  professe  that  they  will 
make  large  proffe  off  this  matter  at  leysure,  let  them  professe 
theis  gaye  glorious  promyses  so  longe  as  they  will,  so  they 
knowe  the  longer  they  labor  in  this  matter,  so  muche  lesse 
shall  they  bothe  shewe  and  bringe  to  passe. 

The  obiection  to  the  8.  Article. 

Home.  in  the  8.  Article  Ministers  committ  and  assigne  the  burthen 

and  cure  (wherwith  they  are  charged)  vnto  others  with  ouer 
muche  facilitie  :  We  demaund  also  this,  whiche  appeareth  not 
plainly  inough  in  their  Discipline,  to  whom  perteineth  it  to 
allowe  their  allegations  and  excuses,  when  they  will  leaue 
their  charges  vnto  others. 

The  answere. 

Whitliead.  What  inhumanitie  is  it,  not  to  be  content,  that  the  ministers  off 
the  worde  (vpon  waightie  causes,  as  sicknes  or  vrgent  busines 
off  importance)  shuld  be  eased  off  their  burthens  ?  as  though 
they  that  fynde  faulte  at  this  nowe,  permitted  not  the  same  to 
themselues  before,  rough  againste  other,  and  ouer  fauorable  to 
themselues. 

And  where  they  demaunde  vnto  whom  it  perteinethe  to 
allowe  their  lawfull  causes,  we  wonder,  that  they,  nother 
redde  ioyntly  in  the  same  place  the  name  off  Seniors,  to  whom 
the  matter  is  committed,  nor  remember  that  generall  pointe  in 
the  36.  article,  that  the  gouernement  off  the  whole  churche  is 
committed  to  the  ministers  and  Seniors. 

The  obiection  to  the  13.  Article. 

Home.  We  allowe  the  translatinge  off  bookes.     But  that  so  open 

a  lawe  shulde  be  made  for  that  matter,  that  is  the  thinge  we 
fynde  fault  withe.  For  it  bothe  conteineth  that  whiche  is  a 
pestilent  matter  to  oure  congregation,  by  meanes  off  danger  off 


CXLIX. 

such  as  are  wont  to  traueile  as  strangers  vpp  hither  vnto  vs 
owt  of  Englande,  as  also  it  maie  be  reprehended  in  that  it 
semeth  to  smell  and  tend  openly  to  the  priuate  commoditie  off 
some  men. 

The  an s were. 

Where  it  is  signified  that  certeine  bookes  godly  and  fitt  Whithead. 
either  to  instructe,  or  comforte  oure  countrie  men  in  this 
calamitie  off  oures  and  off  oure  countre,  shuld  be  translated 
in  to  our  tonge  then  the  which e  there  can  be  nothinge  more 
profitable  or  necessarie,  they  saie  it  is  a  pestilente  matter 
forsoothe,  bicause  it  is  so  openly  mentioned :  as  though  by 
speaking  nothinge,  it  might  be  perswaded  that  we  do  nothinge 
here  but  slepe  for  wher  they  add  towching  the  priuate  com- 
moditie off  some  in  so  common  a  profit,  we  cannot  gesse  what 
that  meanethe  in  as  muche  as  all  men  that  haue  in  theis  mise- 
rable daies,  yet  hitherto  caused  bookes  to  be  set  foorthe  in 
oure  tonge  haue  rather  lost  then  wonne  by  them. 

The  obiection  to  the  16.  Article. 

In  the  16.  Article  the  custodie  off  the  treasure  off  the  Home. 
churche  perteineth  not  necessarily  to  the  Deacons  by  the  worde 
off  God.  And  at  this  daye  many  reformed  churches  do  not  ob- 
serue  it  and  moreouer  it  semethe  more  profitable  vnto  oure 
congregation  to  haue  it  otherwise.  Fowrthly  the  moste  parte 
off  the  auntientest  churches  keepe  a  plaine  other  custome. 

The  an s were. 

Iff  they  be  able  to  shewe  so  plaine  a  place  in  all  the  whole  whithead. 
Scripture  for  anie  other  that  ought  to  haue  the  custodie  off 
the  treasure  off  the  churche  as  is  in  the  6.  off  the  Actes  off 
the  Apostells,  for  the  Deacones,  we  yelde  vnto  them.  Yea, 
and  Caluin  shall  yelde  also  (whose  name  they  oftentimes 
wonderous  confidently  and  falsely  alleadge)  who,  in  the 
8.  Chapter  off  the  Institution  off  a  Christen  man  in  the 
55.  diuision,    thinketh    plainly  as  we  doo,    aswell    concern- 


CL. 

inge  the  custodie,  as  the  distribution  off  all  churche  mony 
and  vtterethe  the  same  in  plaine  wordes.  In  the  primatiue 
churche,  saith  he,  the  Deacons  receaued  (euen  as  it  was  vnder 
the  apostells)  faithfull  peoples  dayly  oblations  and  the  yerely 
reuenevves  off  the  churche,  to  thentent  they  shuld  bestowe 
them  vppon  true  vses.  We  desier  them  nowe  to  shevve  vs 
more  plainly,  vnto  what  other  men  that  charge  dothe  rather 
belonge  then  to  the  deacons,  &c.  But  they  saye  manie  reformed 
churches  obserue  not  this,  ad  that  it  will  be  more  profitable 
for  oure  congregatio  to  haue  it  otherwise  :  And  that  the  moste 
parte  of  the  auncietest  churches  keepe  still  an  other  custome. 
This  (as  we  sayde  before)  is  onely  to  affirme,  and  proue  no- 
thinge.  But  thus  they  doo  almoste  allwaies.  But  where  they 
speake  off  the  auntientest  churches,  we  beleue,  they  meane  the 
popishe  churches,  but  would  not  for  shame  vtter  it :  or  ells  let 
them  shewe  vs  what  auncient  churches  those  be,  yet  this  we 
maye  not  ouerpasse  how  that  they  affirme  that  it  will  be  pro- 
fitable for  oure  churche  to  haue  it  otherwise  :  that  is,  that  one, 
as  it  is  nowe,  haue  the  custodie  alone,  know  alone,  and  distri- 
bute the  churche  mony  alone  and  make  accoumpt  alone,  and 
to  himselff  alone.  But  we  are  ready  to  proue  either  to  the 
magistrate,  or  to  the  worlde  (in  case  the  Magistrate  so  permit 
it)  bothe  by  testimonies,  reasons,  and  matters  in  dede,  that  this 
is  not  onely  not  profitable,  but  also  it  hathe  and  is  vtterly  per- 
nitious,  and  to  the  plaine  vndooinge  off  oure  churche. 


The  obiection  to  the  17.  Article. 

Home.  Vie  fynde  faulte,  that  the  election  off  the  Deacons  is  not 

free  ynough.  For  the  riche  men  muste  be  allwaies  taken. 
Also  in  that  they  ought  to  depend  vppon  the  will  and  councell 
off  the  elders,  where  nowe  a  great  parte  off  the  elders  bothe 
Hue  and  depende  vpon  the  Deacons  puree.  There  mouth  ther- 
fore  semethe  to  be  stopped,  so  as  they  dare  neuer  reproue  and 
ouersore  correcte  the  Deacons  when  they  offende. 


CLI. 

The  an s were. 

There  was  neuer  man  that  was  in  his  right  witt  whiche  Whithead. 
denied  it  to  be  moste  profitable  for  the  churche,  to  haue  suche 
men  chosen  to  be  Deacons,  as  the  least  suspition  can  be  had 
in.  Where  Home  and  Chambers  affirme  that  a  great  parte 
off  the  Elders  liue  and  depend  vpon  the  Deacons  puree,  is  is 
a  plaine  slaunderous  reporte. 

But  admit  there  be  one  or  two  amonge  them  off  the  poorer 
sorte  that  shall  perhapps  haue  nede  nowe  and  then  off  some 
relieff  off  the  churche  monie.  Do  not  yow  (Home  and 
Chambers)  knowe  that  they  haue  byn  richer  in  tymes  paste, 
and  excepte  they  preferred  Religion  to  riches,  maye  be  richer 
when  they  will  ?  And  nowe  as  they  are  become  willingly 
banished  men,  so  are  they  willinglye  poore  men  for  the  same 
Religions  sake  that  ye  will  seeme  to  professe  ?  Wherfore  then 
had  ye  rather  enuiously  to  reprehend  pouertie  in  suche  a  one 
then  gentlie  to  comend  so  great  a  vertue,  but  that  ye  are  driuen 
hereto  by  griefe  of  your  stomakes  through  malice.  What? 
Dothe  Paule  require  welthe  in  Elders  (as  ye  doo)  or  vertue  ?  Go 
too,  and  shewe  vs  owte  off  Paule  that  this  your  puree  welthe, 
is  so  necessary  in  an  elder :  We  dare  affirme  that  suche  a  one 
shulde  haue  byn  off  more  authoritie  with  Paule  as  also  with 
all  men  that  be  godly,  and  more  worthie  to  be  an  elder  by 
reason  off  his  pouertie,  for  the  whiche  he  is  so  contemned  at 
your  hande.  But  poore  elders  dare  not  (ye  muste  vnderstande) 
reproue  offendinge  Deacons  :  Do  not  yow  Home  and  Cham- 
bers knowe  that  in  the  primatiue  churche,  Bishopps  them- 
selues,  had  their  appointed  liuinge  owte  off  the  treasure  off 
the  churche,  whiche  was  in  the  Deacons  handes  :  and  yet  the 
Deacons  (in  case  they  did  amisse)  were  neuer  the  lesse  sharply 
corrected  off  them  ?  And  yet  theis  men  that  requier  such 
ruffling  riche  elders,  woulde  haue  Deacons  off  the  poorer  sorte. 
But  by  what  example,  and  by  what  reason  ?  why  cannot  ye 
beinge  Christians  be  content  in  exile  aswell  with  poore  Elders 
as  with  poore  Deacons  ?  we  remember  that  one  off  yow  saied 
openly  in  our  hearinge,  and  in  the  hearing  of  manie  other  that 


CLII. 

yow  coulde  not  with  your  conscience  be  vnder  such  ministers 
and  such  Seniors  as  oure  church  hathe  nowe  chosen.  If  ye 
can  finde  no  other  faulte  in  them  then  willfull  pouertie,  the 
congregation  also  can  not  repent  them  yet  off  the  ministers  and 
Seniors  whom  they  haue  chosen  :  and  as  for  this  pure  con- 
science off  yours  we  passe  not  for  it.  But  we  think,  yff  welthe 
be  to  respected  in  anie  that  is  in  Ecclesiasticall  Ministery  it  is 
to  be  respected  chiefly  in  Deacons,  that  they  medle  with  the 
churche  monie  with  owte  sinistre  suspition.  In  dede  abowte 
4.  monethes  paste,  ye  had  Deacons,  surely  honest  men  we 
sale  not  nay,  but  yet  suche  as  for  their  slender  abilitie  ye 
made  such  vnderlinges,  that  ye  brought  not  onelie  the  honest 
Good  men  but  also  the  ministerie  off  Deacons  (to  the  great 
iniurie  off  the  apostells  ordinaunce)  into  very  muche  con- 
tempte.  And  in  case  we  haue  thought  Good  to  be  ware  (by 
all  meanes)  off  that  euill,  ye  ought  not  to  haue  byn  greued  at 
it,  but  rather  to  haue  reioised  in  the  churches  behalff.  But 
herein  there  is. one  great  sinne,  that  this  is  not  done  by  yow, 
but  rather  against  your  mindes  seinge  ye  think  nothinge  to  be 
right,  nor  anie  thinge  to  stande  in  force  vnlesse  it  proceede  off 
yow. 

The  obiection  against  the  18. 
Article. 

Home.  The  ministers  shall  be  prime  howe  muche  monie  ther  is, 

but  not  howe  it  is  bestowed.  This  is  agalste  the  custome  of 
WStT  the  auncientest  and  beste  instituted  churches,  and  contrary  to 
kcYcement  the  Iudgemente  and  mynde  off  the  greatest  lerned  men  that 
ThopTpow  be  in  theis  daies  as  Caluin  and  others,  whiche  as  they  permit 
te2.  the  distribution  vnto  the  Deacons,  euen  so,  will  they  haue  it 
letters        donne  at  the  arbitrement  and  appointment  off  the  Elders. 

before. 

The  answere. 
Wkithead.      The  Ministers  (saie  they)  shall  be  priuie  how  muche  monie 


CLIN. 

there  is,  but  not  how  it  is  bestowed.  Where  find  yow  in 
oure  booke  theis  wordes  :  (but  not  how  it  is  bestowed  ?)  And 
yet  when  he  hath  added  it,  off  his  owne,  lorde,  howe  he 
triumpheth  here  off  the  custome  off  the  moste  auncientest 
churches,  off  the  mindes  off  the  greatest  lerned  men,  namely 
Maister  Caluin,  &c.  In  this  matter  the  man  truly  semethe 
not  to  haue  wanted  space  and  tyme  wheroff  he  had  to  muche 
to  write  so  fonde  vanities,  but  that  he  lacked  his  eye  sight  and 
some  what  ells  besides. 

The  objection  against  the  19.  Article. 

Albeit  they  would  couer  the  matter,  yet  by  makinge  off  Home. 
lawes,  they  make  al  openly  knowen  :  For  they  disclose  thus 
muche,  that  we  sende  owte  oure  gatherers  to  bringe  other 
mennes  liberalitie  vnto  vs  :  whiche  thinge  shall  bringe  great 
daunger  to  many  in  as  muche  as  the  enemyes  off  oure  religion 
will  easilie  conjecture  from  whom  this  so  great  libiralitie 
cometh. 

The  answere. 

There  is  a  great  fore  sight  in  theis  men  that  they  can  re-  Wldthead, 
prehende  that  thinge  in  vs  whiche  they  themselues  haue  done 
nowe  alreadie  theis  3  yeres  but  it  is  wel  knowe  that  they  send 
owte  their  gatherers,  no  more  then  it  is,  that  we  be  at  Franck- 
ford.  And  then  he  addeth  that  the  ennemies  maye  easilie 
coniecture  from  whom  this  so  great  liberalitie  commethe. 
We  wonder  what  he  meaneth  or  howe  muche  it  is  that  he 
calleth  so  great.  Dothe  Chambers  at  vnwarres  meane  the 
greatnesse  off  his  puree  ?  for  as  for  vs  we  haue  yet  hitherto 
sent  owte  no  bodie  to  gather,  muche  lesse  haue  we  receiued 
anie  thinge  by  anye  gatherer. 

The  obiection  against  the  21.  Article. 
We  wotc  not  what  they  meane  by  the  s:oole.  but  howe  Horn. 


CLIIII. 

so  euer  the  matter  is,  it  shall  annoye  vs  verie  muche,  yff  they 
builde  vp  so  many  thinges  with  so  solemne  a  profession,  and 
shall  bringe  oure  adversaries  into  such  a  suspition,  that  we  re- 
ceiue  muche  more  off  other  men  then  commeth  to  oure  handes 
in  dede.  And  this  shall  comme  off  it  that  verie  many  shall 
for  oure  sakes  be  moste  straitly  handled  and  examined. 

The  answere. 

WhUhead.  What  yff  2  or  3  Papistes  liste  to  lie,  that  we  receiue  many 
thousands,  shall  this  breed  great  daunger  to  vs  and  others, 
and  shal  many  be  moste  straitly  handled  and  examined  ther- 
fore  ?  They  maye  faine  daungers  owte  off  euerie  thinge  iff 
they  will.  But  he  thinketh  it  woulde  not  be  know  en  that  here 
are  studentes,  lectures,  and  Disputations,  yff  we  had  spoken 
nothinge  off  the  scoole  in  oure  discipline.  For  it  was  not 
knowen  that  there  was  a  colledge  off  studentes  at  Zurick 
before.  It  is  a  world  to  se  howe  circumspecte  theis  men  be  in 
wordes,  when  they  are  minded  to  speak  any  thinge  against  this 
oure  foolishe  symplicitie.  For  what  madnesse  is  it,  to  think 
that  those  thinges  whiche  be  euery  daie  open  before  mennes 
eyes  are  the  more  knowen,  by  one  sentence  wrytten  in  a  booke 
whiche  verie  fewe  shall  looke  in. 

The  obiection  to  the  22.  23.  and  24. 
Article. 

Home.  The  shamefastnes  off  manie,  is  vnshamefaste  ynough,  and 

to  be  often  diligently  examined.  And  we  thinke  it  necessarie 
that  nothinge  be  donne  in  this  behalff  withowte  consent  off 
the  elders,  who  as  they  beste  knowe  the  state  off  euerie  man 
so  they  can  and  ought  to  make  an  exhortation  at  the  dis- 
tributing apte  and  fit  for  euery  mannes  disposition. 

The  answere. 
WliiiUad.       The  shamefastnes  off  some  is  almoste  so  farre  attempted 


CLV. 

off  some  shameles  men  that  their  harte  is  clene  caste  downe. 
For  theis  discreete  disposers  off  other  mennes  almes,  haue  by- 
passing to  muche  on  monye  vtterly  caste  awaye  men,  yea, 
bothe  together  the  monie  and  men.  And  yet  in  the  meane 
while,  theis  that  withowte  all  shame,  reason  of  shamfastnes 
forsooth,  whom  rather  then  those  that  haue  any  sparke  off 
honeste  shamefastnes  left,  woulde  go  vnto,  they  had  rather 
almoste  die,  yea,  theis  gentle  and  shamfaste  disposers  haue 
with  their  odious  behauiour  driuen  many  men  off  notable 
good  wittes  and  towardnesse,  some  to  the  printinge  howse, 
some  to  be  seruinge  men,  and  to  runne  into  England  againe, 
with  the  perill  bothe  off  bodie  and  soule.  But  off  this  case  of! 
euell  handlinge,  we  shall  commence  matter  againste  thies  men 
(yff  god  will)  and  the  magistrate  geue  vs  leaue,  to  thentent 
that  good  men  maye  be  the  more  ware  hensfoorthe  that  they 
committ  not  their  liberall  almes  so  easilie  to  anie  one  mannes 
fidelitie  hereafter. 


The  obiection  against  the  26.  Article. 

The  lawe  ordeined  for  those  that  trauell  by  the  waie  shall  Home. 
call  vnto  vs  all  suche  as  be  the  moste  idle  persons  and  the 
veriest  vnthriftes,  and  also  Papistes  whiche  will  faine  them- 
selues  to  be  Religious  that  they  may  be  holpen  as  we  haue 
lerned  by  experience. 

The  an s were. 

The  trauelour  off  oure  nation  hauinge  neede  by  the  waye  to  Whithead. 
be  holpen  on  his  iourney  (yff  the  treasure  off  the  churche  will 
beare  it)  please  not  theis  men.  They  saie,  they  haue  lerned 
by  experience  that  idle  persons  and  vnthriftes  and  also  papistes 
are  called  hither  by  this  meanes.  By  what  experience,  we 
beseche  yow  ?  before  this  lawe  was  made  or  sithens  ?  yff  they 
were  called  hither  before  this  lawe  was  made,  they  were  not 
called  by  occasion  off  this  lawe.     Let  them  ceasse  therfore  to 

[i  2 


CLVI. 

impute  vnto  a  lawe,  that  prouideth  onely  for  those  that  be 
godly  and  needie,  those  thinges  that  naugtie  packes  haue  euer 
hitherto  donne  and  will  do  still  hereafter. 


The  obiection  to  the  27.  Article. 

Home.  It  is  not  an   almes,  but  a  compulsion.     Besides  this,  off 

theis  that  are  founde  to  be  the  setters  foorth  off  theis  lawes 
their  are  not  paste  17  or  18.  Whiche  haue  competent  ynoughe 
to  liue  vpon  and  to  sustaine  themselues.  And  off  them  there 
vvoulde  not  onely  fiue  geue  heretofore,  when  collections  were 
made,  and  the  summe  off  all  their  distributions  came  neuer 
to  13.  Dallers,  they  gaue  so  sparingly  and  so  slenderly.  And 
parhappes  their  is  some  what  herein  to  keepe  back  and 
fray  avvaie  all  such  as  be  off  the  richer  sorte  from  vs  that 
they  came  not  hither,  when  they  shall  se  so  fewe  riche  dwell 
amonge  so  manie  poore,  whiche  neuertheles  shalbe  compelled 
to  sustaine  and  beare  verie  great  charges  at  sundrie  contribu- 
tions. 

The  answere. 

Whithead.  It  is  not  a  compulsion,  but  an  almes.  For  no  man  is  con- 
strained otherwise  then  his  owne  good  will  and  habilitie  is, 
and  that  that  is  off  good  will,  is  no  compulsion.  And  there 
shall  no  man  off  the  richer  sorte  (that  is  godlie)  be  fraide 
awaie  from  vs  by  this  meane,  in  as  muche  as  suche  as  be 
godlie  seeke  off  there  owne  accorde,  whom  they  maye  doo 
good  vnto.  And  wher  they  obiecte  vnto  vs  againe  the  small 
nomber  off  oures,  whiche  haue  competent  ynough  to  lyue  vpon 
themselues,  theis  shulde  be  some  men  off  mightie  habilitie 
that  woulde  haue  the  magistrate  perswaded,  that  other  are 
but  beggers  in  comparison  off  them,  paraduenture  Home, 
whiche  is  the  deuiser  here  off,  is  admitted  vnder  hande  into 
the  felowshipp  off  the  puree  with  Chambers  and  theroff  it 
commethe  his  so  great   swellinge,  such   loftynesse  and  con- 


CLVII. 

tempte  off*  others  :  And  where  he  addethe  that  there  were 
but  fyue  that  gaue  at  the  collections  before  tyme,  and  the 
surame  off  that  they  gaue,  came  scarse  to  13.  Dallers,  it  is  a 
matter  worthie  to  be  knowen  :  For  abovvte  an  halff  yere  paste 
and  more  when  Home  and  Chambers  had  geuen  vvarninge 
openly  for  certeine  thinges  that  they  were  offended  at,  we 
wote  not  what,  that  they  woulde  geue  ouer  their  Ecclesiasticall 
ministeries,  whiche  is  no  noueltie  for  them  to  doo  nowe,  after 
warde  they  went  abowte  to  gather  euerie  mannes  almes  to  the 
intent  they  might  seeme  at  their  departure  from  their  minis- 
teries like  good  husbandes  of  other  menes  liberalise  to  haue 
left  somethinge  vnto  the  churche.  But  seinge  they  gathered 
to  this  ende,  and  it  was  perfectly  knowen  to  all  men  that  their 
gatheringe  was  for  this  cause,  certenly,  we  meruaile  that  there 
was  so  muche  as  one  that  woulde  gaue  anie  thinge,  or  that 
the  summe  whiche  they  gaue,  growed  to  so  muche  as  i3.  not 
Dalers  but  nailers  or  pheninges.  But  Chambers  and  Home 
were  not  so  euell  knowen  at  that  tyme  :  nowe  yff  they  lyst  to 
assaie,  they  shall  proceiue,  that  there  is  not  one,  that  will  put 
them  in  truste  with  so  muche  as  a  myte.  And  yet  sins  they 
departed  from  the  congregation,  there  hathe  bin  more  geuen 
(by  the  grace  off  god)  vnto  the  poore,  then  Home  and  Cham- 
bers haue  geuen  off  their  owne,  all  the  daies  off  their  liffe. 

The  obiection  against  the  29.  Article. 

This  lawe  hathe  these  discomodities  :  that  firste,  it  dis-  Hume. 
closeth  the  thinge  ouermuehe,  that  those  whiche  were  wont  to 
be  liberall  vnto  vs,  are  moste  desirous  to  keepe  close,  secondly, 
it  is  preiuditiall  to  priuate  men  whiche  haue  felte  manie  mennes 
priuate  beneficence.  Thirdly  it  nippeth  and  thwitethe  awaie 
a  great  deale  off  that  liberalitie,  whiche  might  come  to  vs,  in 
that  we  so  appointe  a  strange  collectour,  and  vnknowe  to  the 
geuers.  Fourthelie  it  dothe  wonderous  suspiciously  importe 
the  infamie  off  certeine  that  haue  vsed  theis  labours.  Fiftlie, 
it  shall  strike  a  feare   and  a  terror  vnto  the  geuer  when  he 

H   3 


CLVIII. 

muste  se  so  manye  handes  subscribed  to  publick  letters  and 
by  tb.is  reason  they  shall  be  eloigned  from  vs  that  would 
gladly  succor  the  poore. 

Sixthly,  it  shalbe  excedinge  hurtefull  to  other  congregations, 
and  a  losse  to  all  other  banished  men,  wherso  euer  they  are 
dispersed.  Finally,  thes  so  openly  ordeined  lawes  shall  sig- 
nifie  vnto  oure  Queene  that  we  norishe  and  sustaine  oure 
congregation  by  hir  subiectes.  And  that  shall  off  necessitie 
cause,  that  they  whiche  were  wont  to  geue  vs  some  what 
shalbe  moste  diligently  sought  owte  to  their  vndooinge  and 
oure  moste  pestilente  plage. 

The  answere. 

Whiihead.  Here  is  maniefolde  fyndinge  off  faulte  as  in  a  matter  off 
moste  waightie  importance,  and  wherwith  Maister  Home  and 
Maister  Chambers  are  wonderfully  rubbed  on  the  gall.  But 
passinge  ouer  the  firste  member  as  vaine,  and  mingled  with 
others,  we  will  firste  speake  of  the  seconde.  Yff  this  be  to 
the  prejudice  off  priuate  men,  what  haue  yow  Maister  Home 
and  Maister  Chambers  done,  whiche  nowe  a  greate  while 
haue  by  your  messengers  and  letters  stopped  all  the  priuate 
almoses  off  all  men,  and  drawen  them  into  your  owne  handes  ? 
And  that  yow,  Maister  Home,  threatned  owte  off  the  pulpit 
that  yow  woulde  do,  and  that  yow  woulde  make  poore  miser- 
able men  to  eate  haye.  Where  they  speake  off  an  vnknowen 
coliectour,  we  answere,  that  the  lesse  he  shalbe  commonly 
knowen,  the  lesse  daunger  shall  he  cause  to  them,  that  he 
shall  haue  to  doo  with  all.  For  those  collectors  off  yours, 
are  nowe  by  this  your  diligence  in  gathering  (would  to  god  ye 
were  as  liberall  in  distributinge)  and  by  theis  your  close  and 
moste  discreet  means,  so  knowen,  that  no  man  dare  bydd  them 
god  spede,  muche  lesse  talke  withe  them. 

Therfore  it  is  wonderous  fyne,  that  Maister  Home  hathe 
forged  here  c5cerninge  an  vnknowne  colectour.  where  he 
saithe  that  a  feare  and  a  terror  shall  be  stricken  into  suche 


CLIX. 

as  shall  see  manie  names  subscribed,  we  vnderstande  not  howe 
that  ca  be.  It  semeth  he  vvoulde  saie,  that  oure  messagers  wil 
shewe  not  oure  names  but  the  messagers  names  subscribed. 
Furthermore,  we  demaunded  off  Chambers  and  Home,  why 
they  haue  done  the  same  no  we  theis  3.  yeres,  and  compelled 
men  to  subscribe  against  their  vvilles.  In  them  this  is  a  godly 
matter,  in  vs  an  horrible  abhomination. 

Where  he  saith,  that  this  will  be  exceedinge  Hurtefull  to  A 
other  congregatios,  certeinlie,  it  hathe  bin  almost  an  vndoo-  ', 
inge  bothe  to  our  congregation  and  others  that  M.  Home 
and  M.  Chambers  haue  in  this  behalff  done  yet  hithertoo, 
For  one  while  they  saie,  they  haue  gathered  alonely  for  this 
congregation  :  When  any  bodie  off  an  other  churche  (ye  must 
vnderstand)  craue  ought  off  them.  An  other  while  they  boaste 
that  they  haue  a  great  deale  for  other  congregations,  that  is 
when  they  be  offended  with  vs  as  they  are  nowe  moste  greu- 
ously.  For  nowe  (we  beleue)  they  will  saie  plainly  they  haue 
nothinge  for  oure  poore,  therfore  though  they  speake  it  not, 
yet,  they  shewe  openly  by  their  dedes  that  they  haue  all  to 
themselues,  and  keepe  all  to  themselues.  Where  he  saithe,  the 
Queene  shall  vnderstande  by  this  meanes  that  oure  congre- 
gations are  norished  by  hir  subiectes  :  how  so  ?  Doo  we  name 
Englishe  men  ?  or  vniuersally  all  good  men  by  whose  libera- 
litie  the  poore  off  oure  congregation  be  norished  ?  But  the 
Queene  will  suspecte  some  thinge  off  hir  subiectes.  O  fine 
wittie  men  :  She  suspected  nothinge  forsoothe  before  we  wrote 
this  discipline.  That,  that  he  hathe  in  the  fourth  place  set  as 
it  were,  in  the  middle  ranke  in  saftie,  we  sawe  not:  therfore,  we 
will  speake  off  it  laste.  But  this  is  the  greuouse  matter  oil'  all, 
and  that  whiche  alone  tormenteth  theis  men  in  dede,  for  other 
causes  are  pretended,  but  this  is  the  verie  thinge  whence  (as 
the  man  saithe)  comethe  all  this  anguishe  and  anger  too,  for- 
soothe it  wilbe  suspected  (saieth  he)  iff  some  other  collecte  in 
the  name  off  the  congregation,  that  we  like  not  Chambers 
collection,  nor  Homes  and  his  distribution.  Hereoff  will  all 
theis  waightie  discommodities  growe,  that  they  two  (ye  muste 

h    1 


CLX. 

vnderstande)  maie  not  be  in  so  great  authoritie  with  all  men, 
nor  be  such  buggarddes  to  the  poore  yff  they  maye  not  beare 
the  bagge  alone.  O  greuous  and  intolerable  euilles  that  will 
growe  off  theis  suspitions.  In  dede  they  make  an  ende  off 
all  this  place  withe  plaine  tragicall  termes  :  this  geare  (saith 
he)  shall  cause  vndooinge  and  a  moste  pestilent  plage  vnto  the 
congregation. 

We  wonder  that  he  cried  not  owte  also  :  o  heauen,  o  earthe, 
o  neptunes  seas,  but  where  they  feare  them  selues  so  muche 
off  suspitions,  we  beleue,  they  maie  be  owte  off  paraduenture 
in  a  while.  For  all  men  will  within  a  shorte  time  (as  farre  as 
we  see)  geue  ouer  to  suspect  what  manner  off  men  Home  and 
Chabers  be.  Finally  what  faulte  so  euer  they  finde  with  vs  in 
all  this  adoo  touchinge  the  messager  to  be  sente,  they  them- 
selues  haue  vtterly  forced  vs  by  extreamitie  and  violence  to 
attempte  it.  For  seinge  Chambers  would  geue  nothinge 
being  present,  but  vnto  certeine  off  his  owne,  and  is  nowe 
runne  awaie  with  the  puree,  we  are  vtterlie  constrained  to 
take  this  waie,  that  oure  poore  perishe  not  for  famine. 

The  obiection  against  the  30.  Article. 

Home.  This  is  amisse,  that  the  Deacons  are  bownden  to  visite  the 

poore  onely,  to  knowe  iff  they  neede  :  seinge  it  is  chieflye  re- 
quired that  they  maye  exhorte,  that  they  maie  comforte,  that 
they  maie  relieue  such  consciences  as  be  sick  and  burthened 
with  s\nnes.  A  man  maie  aske  them  where  it  apeareth  by 
plaine  wordes  off  the  scriptures,  that  it  is  the  Deacons  office  to 
receiue  and  keepe  the  treasures  off  the  churche,  and  that  they 
alone  ought  to  excecute  and  accomplishe  this  office. 

The  Answere. 

Whithca.L  Let  the  Deacons  visit  ali  sicke  folke  vniuersallie  yff  they 
will  and  exhorte  them  and  comforte  them,  we  forbid  the  not. 
Onely  we  she  we  that  they  are  bownden  by  reason  off  their 


CLXI. 

office  peculiary  to  haue  charge  off  the  poore.  Where  they  saie  Whithead. 
it  is  chiefly  required  that  deacons  shuld  exhorte  and  comforte 
the  sicke  consciences  off  them  that  are  diseased  :  Iff  they  saie 
they  be  bownde  to  doo  that  by  reason  off  their  office,  let  them 
proue  it,  that  they  doo  not  onely  saie  all  thinges.  But  yft" 
they  respecte  Christian  pitie  towardes  their  brethern,  neither 
doo  we  exempte  from  the  Deacons,  that  whiche  is  the  common 
dewtie  off  all  Christians.  But  for  as  muche  as  they  haue  bur- 
thened  the  Deacons  before,  with  vnnecessarie  charges  as  con- 
cerninge  the  office  off  Deacons,  by  reason  wheroff  they  fraied 
manie  from  that  right  godlie  office  off  Deacons,  we  haue 
thought  good  to  declare  what  thinges  they  be  whiche  properly 
appertaine  to  the  Deaconshipp,  and  what  be  the  common 
devvties  off  all  Christians.  And  leaste  theis  men  might  iustlie 
complaine  as  touchinge  the  lake  off  exhortinge  and  com- 
forting the  sicke,  that  matter  is  sufficientlie  prouided  for  by 
the  ministers  off  the  worde  vnto  whom  that  charge  dothe 
chiefly  appertaine  and  by  other  lerned  men  also.  And  to 
that  question  that  they  harpe  vpon  againe,  it  is  throughly  an- 
swered in  the  4.  Article  In  that  they  require  plaine  wordes 
off  scripture  off  vs  we  cannot  meruaile  ynoughe,  seinge  they 
neither  proue  or  shewe  anie  thinge,  either  by  plaine  wordes 
or  obscure  wordes :  but  as  thoughe  we  were  scollers  and  they 
scoolemasters  off  Pithagoras  rule,  they  onely  saie  and  affirme 
all  thinges  and  confirme  nothinge.  But  they  promesse  they 
will  doo  it  at  leasure  and  god  before.  And  that  is  ynoughe 
we  trovve. 

The  obiection  against  the  38.  Article. 

The  time  is  ill  appointed,  it  were  a  great  deale  better  after  Hume. 
the  marte,  for  the  auoidinge  off  rumor  and  blowinge  off  dissen- 

tions  whiche  maie  arise  as  it  is  novve  in  example. 

» 

The  an s were. 

The  time  is  appointed  well  ynough.      For  theis  dissentions  Whithead. 
are  not  to  be  imputed  to  times,  but  to  men.     And  we  truste 

n  5 


CLXIL 

that  we  shall  by  the  grace  o.TGcd  haue  hensfoorthe  goodmen 
that  shall  quietlie  geuerne  the  churche  in  the  true  feare  off 
god  and  loue  to  their  brethern. 

The  obiection  against  the  44.  Article. 

Home.  The  44.  Article  speaketh  manifestly  against  the  edicte  off 

the  Senate.  For  there  it  is  specified  by  theis  clere  and  mani- 
feste  vvordes.  Furthermore  the  Senate  off  this  honorable  citie 
hath  decreed,  that  iff  their  arise  anie  dissention  or  contentions 
amonge  the  strangers,  concerninge  Religion  or  their  Disci- 
pline, they  be  sett  at  one  with  all  diligence  by  the  ministers 
and  Seniors  specially  for  this  cause,  leaste  those  whiche  pro- 
fesse  themselues  to  be  banished  me  owte  of  their  countrie  for 
true  Religions  sake,  vtter  an  euell  token  what  their  minde  is 
by  reason  off  such  controuersies  and  debates.  And  in  case 
the  matter  cannot  be  apeased  before  the  ministers  and  elders 
let  them  knowe  that  the  Senate  off  this  citie  will  take  order 
therein,  who  as  reason  is,  will  looke  moste  sharply  vppon  the 
Authors  oflfsuche  troubles. 

The  answere. 

Whtiliead.  It  is  not  against  the  meaninge  off  the  edicte,  as  it  was  de- 
clared by  the  Magistrates  themselues  in  oure  churche  before 
all  the  congregation  the  laste  off  February,  by  the  mouthe  off 
Maister  Valeran  polaine,  and  the  saide  Magistrates,  (seinge 
the  sentence  pronounced  by  the  saide  Maister  Valeran  and 
written  owte  by  vs,  allowed  it,  according  wherunto,  this 
decree  is  alltogether  set  foorth. 

The  obiection  against  the  46.  Article. 

Home,  This  lawe   clothe   not  sufficiently  forsee    and  prouide   for 

the  quietnes  off  the  congregation,  vnles  in  this  greater  parte, 
the  pastor  and   seniors    be   included,    whose    authoritie    men 


CLXIII. 

ought  not  to  bringe  into  such  cotempte  that  we  woukle  so  easilie 
reiecte  them.  The  multitude  is  off  their  owne  disposition, 
ouermuche  licentious  and  grudginge  at  euerie  superior  power 
and  this  lawe  is  also  ainiinste  the  edicte  off  the  Senate. 


The  an s were. 

Iff*  the  ministers  and  Elders  wilbe  present  no  man  vvarneth  Whithead. 
them  :  yf  they  will  not.  who  wil  force  them  againste  their 
willes  ?  It  is  impertinent  that  he  saith,  they  be  easilie  reiecte, 
whiche  will  not  come  when  they  be  desired,  or  when  they  be 
present  departe  vppon  their  owne  will.  Where  he  saithe, 
that  this  decree  is  also  contrarie  to  the  edicte  off  the  Senate, 
it  is  not  ynough,  excepte  he  prone  it. 

The  obiection  against  the  49.  Article. 

The   subscribinge  is   ouer  hardly  and   constrainedly  done  Hovm 
specially  in  so  often  alteration  and  innouation  off  lawes  as  they 
speake  off. 

The  ansv,  ere. 

The  subscribinge  is  not  ouerha[r]dly  nor  constrainedly  done  Whithead. 
but  so  muche  the  lesse  hardly  and  costrainedly,  in  that  there 
is  an  easie  waye  shewed  to  redresse  Yf  anye  thinge  be  done 
amisse :  Where  theis  men  would  haue  their  decrees  to  be  re- 
puted for  holie  sacred  canons  whiche  maie  not  be  moued.  And 
as  for  this  subscribinge,  whiche  they  say  is  so  costrained  and 
harde,  besides  that  it  is  prouided  for  by  the  edicte  off  the  Senate, 
it  is  required  also  in  their  oulde  discipline  and  institution. 

The  obiection  against  the  54.  Article. 

The    authoritie    off  the    pastor   and    Seniors    is    all    wiped  // 
awaie.    F<  r  euerie  thinge  is  referred  to  the  confused  multitude 
of  the  congregation. 

11   6 


CLXIIII. 

The  answere. 

Whithcad.  Excepte  the  matter  be  vsed  as  we  haue  prouided  in  the 
Discipline,  bothe  the  authoritie  and  libertie  off  the  congrega- 
tion is  vvyped  awaie,  and  a  meere  tyranny  est[a]blished.  Where 
he  saith  all  thinge  is  referred  to  the  confused  multitude,  it  is 
manifestlie  false.  For  it  is  alvvaies  added  by  such  as  the  con- 
gregation shall  appointe  therto :  as  it  is  also  in  the  54.  article 
added,  in  plaine  wordes. 

The  obiection  against  the  57.  Article. 
Home.  This  Lawe  is  also  contrarie  to  edicte  off  the  Senate. 

The  answere. 
WkitJiead.       This  shulde  not  be  saide  but  shewed. 


The  obiection  against  the  58.  Articl 


*c 


Horn*.  The  assemblie  off  4.  6.  8.  or  10.  is  troublously  done  and 

withowte  order,  and  will  styrre  vpp  newe  tumultes  daily  in 
the  congregation.  Such  lavves  as  this  condemne  the  authoritie 
and  counsaile  off  the  Elders. 

The  answere. 

Whithmd.  Home  and  Chambers  condemne  the  assemblie  off  4.  6.  8. 
or  10.  men  for  peace  makinge  :  Where  they  haue  almost  everie 
daie  theis  3.  monethes  gathered  corner  creepinge  assemblies  to 
disturbe  the  peace  of  the  church. 

The  obiection  against  the  59.  Article. 

Home.  The  59.   article  is   manifestly  repugnant   against  the    56\ 

Article. 


CLXV. 


The  answere. 


The  59.  is  not  repugnant  against  the  56".  article  for  there  is  Whithead. 
intreated  off  ciuill  controuersies  and  here  off  others. 


The  obiection  against  the  63.  Article. 
This  lawe  also  is  against  the  edicte  off  the  Senate.  Home. 


The  answere. 

It  is  not  against  the  meaninge  off  the  edicte,  as  it  is  declared  Whithead. 
in  the  answere  to  the  25.  Article.  For  it  was  declared  by  the 
right  honorable  and  godly  Magistrates  openly  in  oure  churche, 
that  they  thought  nothinge  lesse  then  to  impeche  the  lawfull 
authoritie  oft"  the  congregation.  And  except  the  congregation 
whiche  geueth  authoritie  to  ministers  be  superior  to  the 
ministers,  they  are  not  nowe  ministers,  but  lordes  off  the  con- 
gregation, as  to  adde  no  further. 

The  obiection  to  the  68.  article. 

In  this  place  we  desier  that  oure  olde  discipline  maie  be  Home. 
looked  vpon,  that  we  maie  se  whither  it  be,  to  be  so  lightly 
caste  awaie,  seinge  it  proceeded  off  so  lerned  men,   and  shall 
with  a  meane   amendinge  be  farr  perfecter  then   this  newe 
Discipline. 

The  answere. 

Where  they  desier  that  the  olde  Discipline  maie  be  looked  Whithead. 
vppon,  we  answere,  the  more  they  shall  looke  vpon  it,  the 
more  euedently  shall  the  naughtynes  and  imperfection  off  it 
appeare,  And  it  shall  also  more  plainely  appeare  howe  muche 
the  cogregation  hathe  bin  beholdinge  to  them  that  haue  re- 
teined  such  an  vnperfit  discipline  so  loge  in  the  churche,  onely, 


CLXVI. 

bycause  it  permitteth  all  to  the  pastor.  Where  they  saie  that 
the  Discipline  proceded  off  so  lerned  men,  yet,  the  same  that 
wrote  it,  (were  they  neuer  so  well  lerned)  confesse  themselues 
both  that  it  was  gathered  in  haste,  and  geuen  to  the  congrega- 
tion as  imperfit,  onely  for  a  tyme.  Where  they  speak  off  the 
amending  off  that  Discipline,  we  marueille  that  it  neuer  came 
into  their  minde  before. 

The  obiection  against  the  72.  Article. 

Home.  That  concerninge  testamentes  in  this  daungerous  vvorlde  is 

a  pernitious  Lawe. 

The  answere. 

Whithead.  We  cannot  tell  what  serpente  the  lawe  concerninge  Testa- 
mentes hathe  lurkinge  vnder  the  herbe.  They  saye  it  is  a 
pernitious  lawe,  and  they  onely  saye  so,  But  we  saie  it  is  verie 
wholsome,  and  profitable  against  the  fraude  off  falsaries  and 
to  the  succours  of  the  fatherles  and  vviddowes. 


The  obiection    [to]  the  73.  Article. 

Home.  Quietnes  is   not  sufficiently  prouided  for  by  this  meanes, 

in  asmuche  as  it  is  commaunded  (as  it  were)  that  euerie  one 
shuld  looke  and  study  for  an  innouation. 


The  answere. 

Whithead.  Quietnes,  is  prouided  for  sufficietly,  in  as  muche  as  the 
matter  muste  passe  quietlye  and  peaceablie,  and  also  by 
writings  mennes  consciences,  are  also  necessarely  prouided  for, 
that  in  case  any  thinge  be  founde  in  the  Ecclesiasticall  ordi- 
naunces  vngodly  or  disagreinge,  or  ells  vnprofi table  for  the 
church  it  maie  be  chaunged  straightwaies,  so  as  mennes 
pleasures  be  net  holden  for  holy,  sacred,  and  vnmouable  as  the 
papistes  would. 


CLXVII, 

The  obiectoftrs  conclusion. 

In  all  this  a  tloo,  we   saie  this  for  a  conclusion,  that  there  Home. 
be  thre  thinges,  whiche  they  onely  seeke,   the  innouation  off 
ministers,   a  purse  and    treasure,   I   wote   not  what,    and  the 
purginge  oft"  their  owne  offences  before  committed. 

Nowe  haue  we  alleadged  as  muche  as  we  handsomely  coulde 
bringe,  consideringe  the  tyme.  We  woulde  also  haue  alleadged 
verie  many  other  thinges,  so  as  it  shulde  plainly  appeare,  that 
oure  brethern  haue  in  ordeininge  their  Discipline  respected 
neither  so  great  waightie  reasons,  nor  so  great  commodities 
off  oure  congregation.  But  haue  in  the  meane  while  geuen 
that,  that  shall  be  offensiue  and  slanderous  to  all  good  men, 
and  to  oure  aduersaries  and  goddes  enemies  the  papistes  high 
reioycinge  and  pleasure.  The  booke  off  the  olde  discipline 
with  a  verie  litle  and  small  correction  and  amending  would 
cause  man:e  more  plentifull  fruites  off  Christian  hartes  to  be 
brought  foorth,  and  would  settle  a  great  deale  more  constant 
and  more  durable  quietnes  amonge  vs. 

The  answere  to  the  conclusion. 

In  all  this  adoo,  Maister  Home  and  Maister  Chambers  go  Whitheud. 
abowte  nothinge  ells  but  to  disquiete  the  cogregation,  that 
Home  might  rule  the  roste  ouer  all:  Chambers  beare  the 
bagge  alone,  and  they  2.  together  exercise  a  moste  vnworthie 
lordshipp  ouer  the  poore,  and  by  them  all  other,  and  that  they 
might  haue  no  certeine  discipline,  but  that  their  pleasures 
might  be  holden  for  lawes,  and  that  nothinge  shulde  be 
thought  right  or  stad  in  force  but  what  they  doo,  yet  hithertoo, 
and  the  same  they  go  abowte  nowe  :  And  it  semethe  they  haue 
vtterly  determined  either  to  establishe  a  tyrannie,  or  to  leaue 
no  common  wealth  at  all  in  the  congregation.  Where  Home 
and  Chambers  make  rehersall  here  off  the  purginge  off  offences 
comitted  by  vs,  they  ought  iustly  to  haue  byn  ashamed  to 
make  mention  off  offences  seinge  they  haue  neuer  left  for  theis 
3.  or    1.  Monethes    to  lade   themselues  with  wicked  doinires. 


CLXVIII. 

And  as  for  occasion  of  offence  and  slander  geuen  to  good  and 
godly  men  and  to  oure  adnersaries  and  goddes  enemies  the 
papistes  high  reioicinge  and  pleasure,  they  accuse  vs  theroff  so 
falsely,  as  they  themselues  haue  geuen  the  occasion  in  dede. 

For  they  coulde  neuer  abyde  to  haue  anye  thinge  amended 
nor  themselues  to  be  admonished  off  any  thinge,  or  to  be 
comoned  withall  in  anie  wise.  But  for  the  moste  light,  yea, 
no  causes  in  dede,  they  forsooke  their  ministerie  straight  waies, 
the  pastor  forsooke  the  flocke,  the  Trcasorer  the  poore  and 
bothe  forsooke  the  chin  che  and  moued  others  by  their  example 
to  do  the  same. 

Neither  was  it  ynough  for  them  to  geue  ouer  their  owne 

functions  but  they  must  drawe  other  preachers  and  readers 

with  them  also,   to  the  intent  the  congregation  shulde  by  this 

meanes  be  destitute  off  Goddes  worde,  and  vtterly  scattered 

as  thoughe  it  colde  not  possiblie  stande  withowte  them.     And 

when  they  had  forsaken  their  owne  churche,   they  haunted, 

partly  the  french  churche  and  partly  the  devvtche  churches, 

and   so  raised   rumors    abroade   and  spied  oure  dissentions, 

firste,   through  this  citie  and  then  thorough  other  cities  off 

Germany.      And  last  off  all,  when  they  wolde  not  come  to  the 

churche  in  the  marte  time,  but  by  the  Magistrates  commaunde- 

ment,  neither  coulde  they  then  be  quiet  they  spreed  the  like 

rumours  almoste  throughowt  all  Europe. 

Then  J  And  when  they  haue  plaied  theis  prancks  themselues,  they 

maybe       charge  vs  with  their  owne  faultes  and  go  abowte  to  laie  the 

nowspred  infamie  vppon   vs  whiche  they  themselues   haue  stirred  vp. 

withowt      Iff  yow  shall  crie  owte  that  olde  matters  are  rehersed  by  this 

ifljlu'1  «   meanes»  yovv   ought  to  haue  abstained   from   prouokinge    vs 

welwakd.  hereunto:  neither  to  haue  mentioned  offences  committed,  olde 

subscriptions,  ne  yet  to  haue  called  vs  backe  thus  to  the  olde 

discipline  the  fountaine  off  all  contentions. 

The  names  subscribed  to  the  obiections 
with  a  postscripte. 
Robart  Home         Richard  Chambers         Anthonie  Mahewe 
Edwarde  Isaac       Christopher  Brickbeck  Richard  Dauids 


CLXIX. 

Cutbert  warcope  Iohn  Binhes  Nicholas  caruile. 

Robart  Harrington        Iohn  Escot.  John  Machet. 

The  reste  offoure  consentinge  brethern  we  coulde  not  call  Home. 
together   vnto    this    subscribinge,   by  reason  off  shortnes   of 
time,  whose  names  shall  be  put  afterward  hauinge  your  H. 
licences  therto. 

The  answere  to  the  postscripte. 
Where  they  complaine  off  shortnes  of  time  in  the  ende  as  Whithead. 
they  did  in  the  beginninge,   and  that  they  could  not  by  reasen 
therof  cal  their  cosentinge  brethern  together  to  the  subscribinge  : 
What  meaneth  that  ?     For  where  they  haue  set  to  the  names 
off  them  whiche  dwell  most  farr  a  sunder  and  haue  left  owte 
almost  none  but  the  names  off  their  owne  seruants  whom  they 
haue  allwaies  at  a  becke,  yet  they  could  not  call  the  rest  off 
their  brethern  together  forsoothe,  to  the  intent  they  might  by 
this  shift  make  a  shewe  to  suche  as  knowe  not  the  matter,  off 
some  multitude  off  men  off  some  estimation  whiche  are  lefte 
owte.  And  they  desier  also  as  in  a  matter  off  waight  that  they 
maye  set  too  the  names  off  the  others  afterwardes.      And  as 
here  in  the  ende,  they  vaunte  a  certeine  shewe  of  some  great 
multitude  that  will  subscribe :  Euen    so,   in  the  beginninge 
and  in  many  other  places  of  their  booke   they  make  a  great 
bragge  as   though  they  would  exhibite   some  notable  matter 
to  the  magistrate,  so  they  maie  haue  time  ynough  geuen  them 
to    bethink   themselues.       But   maister    Home    and    maister 
Chambers  shall  with  theis  their  mightie  and  great  promisses 
bothe  off  subscriptions   declarations  and  confirmations  bringe 
to  passe  as  good  as  nothinge.      But  yet  this  they  are  desirous 
to  bringe  to  passe  in  the  meane  time,  that  whiles  theis  gaye 
glorious  promises   off  thers   be  loked  for,   they  may  a  longe 
time  hinder  the  peace  and  quietnes   off  the   church   whiche 
their  onely  desier  is   to  haue  disquieted.      And  iff  it  be  pos- 
sible that  thei  maie  recouer  a  moste  intolerable  lordeshipp 
ouer  the  congregatio  :  or  in  case  they  cannot  obtaine  the  chief 
state  in  the  cogregatio,  that  they  may   leaue   the  churche  in 


CLXX. 

the  worste,  or  in  no  state  at  all,  but  that  they  maye  rende  it 
and  all  to  scatter  it.  Theis  be  the  deuises  off  Home  and  Cham- 
bers. Theis  be  therfetches,  right  honorable  and  most  righteous 
Magistrates.  And  yet  we  haue  no  distruste  but  almightie  god 
for  his  mercies  sake  towardes  oure  most  afflicted  churche,  and 
that  your  authoritie  for  your  equities  sake  and  singuler  bene- 
uolence  towardes  vs,  will  withstande  the  same. 

And  for  as  muche  as  we  haue  proued  that  one  off  theis 
thinges  whiche  they  haue  reprehended  in  oure  discipline,  be 
other  against  gods  worde,  or  againste  good  reason  :  and  for  as 
muche  also  as  we  are  ready  to  proue,  that  all  thinges  con- 
teined  in  oure  Discipline,  are  taken  owte  either  oft"  Goodes 
worde  or  off  the  edicte  off  the  Senate  and  Magistrate,  either 
owte  off  their  owne  olde  discipline  which  they  stick  so  fast  vnto, 
either  ells  off  the  iudgement  off  good  reason,  we  humbhe 
beseche  the  right  honorable  and  righteous  magistrates  that 
they  will  vouchsaffe  to  confirme  it  with  their  authoritie. 

Where  as  bothe  partes  gaue  consent  that  certeine  others, 
very  worshippfull,  shuld  also  deale  in  this  controuersie  be- 
tweene  them,  to  appease  (yff  it  might  be)  the  same  I  haue 
here  folowinge  placed  the  order  whiche  they  tooke  for  their 
quietnes. 


To  the  ministerie  and  bodie  off  the  congregation 

off  the  English e  Churche  off 

Franckford. 

For  as  muche  as  at  the  request  oft*  all  oure  brethern  and 
countrie  men  off  this  churche  off  Franckford,  we  haue  vnder- 
take  to  endeauour  oure  selues  to  make  an  ende  of  this  sorow- 
full  controuersie  whiche  so  grieuously,  so  longe  tyme  hath 
vexed  this  congregation,  slaundered  Religion,  and  infamed  the 
name  off  all  Englishemen  we  thought  we  coulde  neither  satisfie 
the  duetie  off  Christian  charitie,  nor  the  office  off  louinge 
countrie  men,   iff  we  did  omitt  any  thinge,  whiche,  bv  anie 


CLXXI. 

probable  coniecture  might  seeme  to  bringe  to  effecte  oure 
honest  enterprise  in  this  behalfe,  whempon  we  haue  thought 
good  to  offer  vnto  yow  oure  brethern  on  botlie  parties  such  a 
forme  off  agremente  touchinge  certeine  pointes  off  your  disci- 
pline as  had  semed  vnto  vs  vppon  conference  betvvene  certeine 
chosen  persons,  on  bothe  sides  before  vs  most  conuenient,  so 
to  satisfie  all  men,  that  euery  man  might  willingly  and  cheer- 
fully submitt  him  selff  vnto  the  obedience  theroff.  Desiring 
yow  all  as  ye  hope  to  haue  fauour  at  goddes  handes  in  the 
bloude  off  Iesus  Christe,  so  to  applie  your  fauorable  mindes 
eche  to  other  that  all  striff  and  contention  set  aparte,  yow  maie 
ioine  together  in  a  blessed  Christian  and  happie  societie,  peace 
and  concorde,  and  the  thinge  wherevnto  we  wishe  bothe  the 
parties  shuld  agree  is  as  folowithe. 

The  forme  off  reconciliation. 

Firste,  where  as  in  this  whole  treatie  off  reconciliation  and 
alteration  of  discipline,  some  thinges  might  happe  to  seeme 
to  tede  to  the  condenation  of  some  partie  or  parson :  we  do  all 
frelie  pronounce  and  testifie  eche  parte  off  other,  that  neither 
off  vs  do  condemne  either  partie,  or  anie  person  as  those 
whiche  haue  don  anie  thinge  contrary  to  gods  word,  or  pro- 
b[a]bilitie  off  reason  in  this  matter  off  discipline,  but  frindly 
and  louingly  euerie  man  dothe  imbrace  all  men  omittinge  all  re- 
hersall  and  disputation  off  thinges  paste  with  common  and 
hartie  praier  vnto  god,  that  from  hens  forthe  we  maie  remaine, 
and  Hue  together  in  brotherly  loue  to  the  glorie  off  god  and 
comforte  off  vs  all. 

Concerninge  the  article  for  exercise  off  lerninge,  that  there 
be  no  mention  made  off  the  same  in  the  booke  off  discipline 
but  that  for  so  muche  as  lerned  men  remaine  in  the  congrega- 
tion, that  the  ministerie  shall  for  the  furtheraunce  off  lerninge, 
labor  to  put  in  vse  such  exercise  off  lerninge  as  the  lerned  can 
performe  and  the  abilitie  off  the  churche  beare. 

Concerninge  the  receiuinge  and  distributinge  off  the  treasure 


CLXXII. 

off  the  churche  The  receauinge  and  distributinge  theroff 
dothe  apperteine  to  the  Deacons,  yet  not  so  that  they  doo  it 
without  the  knowledge  and  consent  off  the  Ministers  and 
Seniors,  concerninge  the  kepinge  off  the  saide  treasure,  it 
maie  verie  well  apperteine  to  the  Deacons,  yet  is  it  not  off 
such  necessitie  but  that  the  reste  off  the  ministerie  maie  other- 
wise set  order  for  the  custodie  theroff,  as  tyme  and  occasion 
shall  serue. 

Concerninge  the  Article  off  contribution,  when  the  treasure 
off  the  churche  faileth,  it  perteineth  to  the  ministers  and  Dea- 
cons to  trauell  by  the  waie  off  exhortation  with  the  riche  to 
helpe  in  that  nede  withowte  anie  further  compulsion. 

Concerninge  the  Article  off  sendinge  off  common  letters 
for  the  relieff  off  the  congregation  :  That  there  be  no  mention 
made  off  anye  parte  theroff  in  the  booke  off  discipline  but  that 
the  ministerie  with  all  possible  secrecie  vse  such  pollicies  and 
means  as  maie  beste  serue  to  the  relieff  and  mainteinance  off 
the  congregation. 

Concerninge  the  Article  off  makinge  off  lawes,  that  they  be 
made  by  the  ministerie  and  bodie  off  the  congregation  beinge 
called  together  for  that  purpose.  And  iff  the  ministerie,  or 
anie  off  them  refuse  to  be  present  beinge  by  the  bodie  off  the 
congregation  required  therunto,  whithowte  iuste  cause  by  them 
or  him  alleaged,  that  then,  after  a  dewe  time  geuen  for  the 
hearinge  off  the  cause,  yff  they  bringe  not  in  good  reason  and 
iuste  cause  off  suche  refusall :  Then  to  be  depriued  by  the 
same  from  their  or  his  ministerie  and  newe  to  be  chosen. 

Concerninge  the  article  off  the  election  off  Ministers  That 
a  scrutenie,  be  had  euerie  yere  at  the  tyme  off  election  for 
the  examination  off  the  Ministers  off  the  worde,  wherin  shalbe 
by  the  appointmente  off  the  congregation  six  or  eight  graue 
and  wise  men  whiche   shall  heare  what  faults  be  alleado-ed 

o 

against  the  same  Minister,  And  yff  the  faults  be  waightie  and 
worthie  off  open  correction,  to  signifie  the  same  to  the  con- 
gregation that  the  offenders  or  offender  maie  be  corrected  or 
tlepriued  accordingly.     Yff  the  offences  be  lesser  then  that 


CLXXIII. 

they  ought  to  be  published,  then  the  saide  ministers  or  minister 
offendinge,  to  be  monished  off  his  faulte  accordinge  to  the 
discretion  off  the  Scrutiners. 

Concerninge  the  Article  offTestamentes.  That  no  man  by 
order  in  this  congregation  shall  be  forced  to  Register  Ins 
Testamente,  but  that  their  be  eight  or  10.  graue  wise,  sub- 
stantial! and  honeste  men  chosen  by  the  congregation  owte  off 
whiche  nomber  the  Testator  shall  haue  his  choise,  or  yff  he 
omit  the  thinge,  his  executours  shall  haue  the  choise  to  take 
2.  off  the  saied  8.  or  1 0.  besides  suche  as  are  made  wittnesses, 
whom  the  executers  withein  a  monethe  after  the  death  off  the 
Testator  shall  make  priuie  to  the  Testamente,  and  that  the 
same  two,  beinge  required  therunto,  shall  faithfully  declare 
vnto  euery  partie  comprehended  in  the  will,  so  muche  off  the 
will  as  shall  particulerly  appertaine  to  euery  off  them,  and 
shall  keepe  secrete  all  the  reste  off  the  will  or  Testament  as 
they  shall  proteste  before  God  and  the  congregation  vppon 
there  consciences,  at  the  time  off  their  election. 

And  nowe  in  case  it  shall  seeme  good  vnto  all  your  wise- 
domes  as  well  off  the  Ministerie  and  bodie  off  the  cono-re^a- 

©      o 

tion  off  the  one  part  as  off  the  dissentinge  brethern  off  the 
other  part  That  we  shall  by  onre  mediation  proceede  anye 
further  accordinge  vnto  this  forme  off  reconciliation,  whiche 
is  here  described :  We  doo  hartely  require  yow,  that  signi- 
finge  your  mindes  vnto  vs  with  as  conueniente  spede  as  ye 
maie,  ye  will  also  appoint  owte  on  either  parte,  2.  Discreet 
and  sober  persons,  louers  off  peace  and  concorde,  whiche  by 
conference  with  other  two  off  vs,  whom  we  shall  appointe, 
may  drawe  theis  Articles  afore  written  into  such  a  forme  as 
they  maie  be  conueniently  anexed  to  the  reste  off  your  Dis- 
cipline.    The  29.  September  1557. 

Your  lovinge  brethern  and 

countrie. 


CLXXIIII. 

Thomas  Wrothe.  Henry  Knotty s.  Edwin  Sandes. 

Frances  Knotty s  John  Browne  Thomas  Eaton. 

Roger  Parker.  Fran,  wilforde  Rieard  Springham. 

Iohn  Abell.  John  Turner. 


The  answere  off  the  churche  to  this  offre,  or  the 
effect  off  the  same. 

We  cannot  allovve  this  waie  off  reconciliation  offred  to  oure 
churche  hy  oure  countrie  men  for  as  muche  as  we  shulde  con- 
demne  oure  selues  as  euell  doers,  and  oure  doinges  vngodly 
and  vnreasonable,  but  we  are  assured  we  liaue  not  done  in 
oure  discipline  anie  thinge  contrary  to  goddes  worde  and  good 
reason.     The  last  off  Septemb. 

Dauid  Whithead.  Henry  Parry.  William  Rawlinges 

Iohn  Hales.  Richard  Beesley  Robart  Reste 

Thomas  Sorby  Robart  Crowley  Richart  Luddington. 

John  Redder  Thomas  wattes  Edmond  Haries. 

Thomas  Ashley  Richard  Rogers. 


The  copie  off  the  letters  off  request  sentfoorth  for 

relieff  off  the  poore  by  Maister  Sutton 

25.  Iuly  1557. 

To  all  them  that  beare  an  vnfayned  Reuerence  and 
zeele  vnto  the  eternall  Testament  off  Iesus  Christe,  ioyned 
withe  the  charitable  and  syncere  bowells  off  mercie  to- 
wardes  the  poore.  Grace,  Mercie  and  Peace  from  God 
the  Father  by  the  same  oure  Lorde  Iesus  Christe  his  sonne 
the  common  and  onely  Sauiour  off  the  worlde. 

It  is  not  like  that  the  brute  of  the  cotrouersie,  which  hathe 
nowe  at  the  ende  off  six  monethes  continued  in  this  En<z;lishe 


CLXXV. 

churche  at  Franckford,  is  vnknowe  to  strangers  :  it  is  more 
like  that  so  manie  beinge  priuie  therto,  it  is  caried  and  spread 
to  farre  abroad  :  and  moste  like  by  the  fruites  springinge 
theroff,  that  it  hath  byn  vntruly  reported  by  the  willful! 
authors  and  stubburne  mainteiners  off  it,  not  onely  to  the 
infamie,  reproche,  and  discredit  off  the  bodie  off  this  churche 
and  to  the  intent  to  stopp  all  relieff  from  the  poore  members 
off  the  same,  but  also,  that  their  vncharitable  and  leude  beha- 
uiours  shulde  not  come  to  light.  For  it  is  well  knowen  that 
diuerse  charitable  men  (albeit  their  persons  and  names  be 
neither  knowen  nor  desired  to  be  knowen)  were,  before  the 
beginninge  off  this  controuersie  verie  liberall  in  sendinge 
their  charitie  to  the  vse  off  this  whole  congregation  vniuer- 
sally,  and  some  were  beneficiall  to  sundrie  members  off  the 
same  particulerlie,  whiche  sithe  that  time  to  oure  knowledge 
they  haue  left  vndone  vtterlie.  We  the  Ministers  off'  the 
churche,  hopinge  that  theis  men  the  authors  and  mainteners 
off  this  controuersie  would  in  time  haue  knowen  their  faults 
and  made  satisfaction  to  the  churche  as  it  becomethe  christen 
men  to  doo,  did  not  onelie  with  pacience  suffer  their  slaunde- 
rous  talke  and  vnquiet  demenour,  but  also  beare  with  their 
vniuste  dealinge,  and  as  much  as  in  vs  laye  studied  to  couer 
their  faultie  doinges.  Neuertheles,  seinge  no  likelyhood  off 
their  amendment,  but  moste  manifeste  proffes  off  their  malice, 
this  poore  congregation,  rather  dailie  encreasinge  then  in  anie 
parte  abatinge,  and  thereby  the  pouertie  theroff  continually 
augmentinge,  we  thought  it  oure  bownden  dewtie  in  con- 
science, no  longer  to  hide  the  matter,  but  thus  off  necessitie 
constrained,  to  disclose  it,  so  as  seinge  they  will  not  be  as 
they  ought  to  be,  they  maie  at  leaste  be  knowen  as  they  be. 
And  thus  we  doo  not  for  anie  malice  that  we  beare  to  anye 
mannes  person  (as  god  the  sercher  off  all  hartes  knoweth)  but 
that  the  truth  beinge  knowen,  such  good  people  as  through 
vntrue  reporte,  haue  byn  perswaded  to  withdrawe  their  good 
mindes  and  fauor  from  this  poore  congregation  might  vnder- 
stande  that  withowte  iuste  cause  they  haue  so  longe  done  it, 


CLXXVI. 

and  hereafter  be  the  more  willinge  to  renewe  their  charitie 
in  the  relieuinge  off  this  poore  church  off  Christe.  And  to 
come  to  the  matter,  ye  shall  vnderstand  that  after  maister 
Home  late  pastor,  and  the  Seniors  that  were  ioyned  in  the 
ministerie  with  him  had  by  a  writinge  subscribed  with  their 
owne  handes,  openly  before  the  congregation  surrendred  and 
geuen  otier  their  offices,  reteininge  neuertheles  the  writinge 
off  their  surrender  in  their  owne  handes,  and  yet  beinge  de- 
sired by  the  congregation  nor  to  leaue  their  ministeries,  but 
still  to  exercise  the  same  :  they  in  no  wise  woulde  doo  it, 
wherby  the  churche  was  diuers  daies  destitute  off  the  preach- 
inge  off  goddes  worde.  Wheruppon,  the  more  part  off  the 
congregation,  mindinge  to  haue  the  churche  kept  in  good  order 
and  to  redresse  those  thinges  that  were  a  great  occasion  off 
the  former  contention,  so  that  after  there  might  be  a  perpetuall 
quietnes  and  Concorde  amonge  vs,  went  earnestly  abowte  the 
same.  But  it  hapened  contrarie  to  oure  expectation,  the 
former  grudges  continuinge,  and  newe  busines  daily  increas- 
inge,  which  at  lenght  came  to  the  Magistrates  eare,  contrary 
to  oure  mindes  and  determination.  For  when  we  thought  that 
it  shulde  withowte  anie  further  brute,  amongest  oure  selues 
haue  bin  pacified  and  ended  as  we  would  to  god  it  had  bin. 
Wheruppon  the  godly  magistrates  lamentinge  muche  oure 
dissention,  ad  desiringe  our  quietnes  came  into  oure  churche 
and  there,  firste  made  vs  to  promesse  one  to  an  other,  that 
from  thens  foorth  no  mention  shulde  be  made  off  anie  former 
grudge  or  contention  betweene  vs  but  that  all  thinges  paste 
shuld  be  clene  forgotten.  Afterwarde,  for  the  better  con- 
tinuance off  loue  amonge  vs  and  good  order  in  the  churche, 
with  the  consent  off  Maister  Home  the  pastor  and  the  Seniors 
discharged  him  and  them  off  their  offices  and  willed  the 
churche  to  chuse  newe  ministers  and  to  make  a  newe  discipline 
(for  by  reason  off  the  vnperfectnes  off  the  okle  Discipline  a 
great  parte  off  the  former  controuersie  was)  as  iff  there  had 
bin  neuer  anie  churche  here  before.  Wheruppon  the  church 
diuers  times  assemblinge,  at  lenght,  the  moste  parte  of  the 


CLXXVII. 

churche  thought  moste  reasonable  that  amonge  other  an  order 
shulde  be  in  this  churche  like  as  it  was  in  the  primatiue 
churche  and  is  nowe  in  all  well  reformed  churches,  that  the 
treasure  shulde  be  in  the  custodie  off  all  the  Deacons  and  not 
off  anie  one  man  alone.  Maister  Home  with  certeine  off  the 
Seniors  and  a  fewe  others  woulde  in  no  wise  agree  vnto  it,  but 
to  their  vttermoste  resiste  it,  which  gaue  vs  occasion  off  farther 
iuste  suspition,  that  the  treasure  off  the  churche  in  time  paste 
had  not  bin  Christianly  vsed. 

And  where  as  also  we  had  deuised  an  other  order,  that  for 
so  muche  as  the  magistrate  dothe  permit  vs  to  vse  the  cus- 
tomes  and  manners  off  makinge  off  willes  that  be  vsed  in 
Englande,  that  for  the  more  suretie  off  oure  frindes  that  were 
here  or  ells  where,  yff  we  were  disposed  by  oure  willes  to 
geue  vnto  them  anie  off  that  litle  substance  that  god  hath  lefte 
vs,  (yff  we  shulde  die  here)  owre  willes  shulde  be  seene  and 
exemplyfied  by  the  Seniors,  ad  so  to  be  owte  of  all  daunger 
off  countrefaitinge  at  anie  time  :  Home,  and  chambers  onelie 
vppon  fonde  will  withowte  any  iuste  consideration,  or  good 
reason  cauilled  against  the  same  order,  onely  affirminge  it  to 
be  pernitious.  Theis  thinges  we  finde  manifestly  at  lenght, 
not  to  proceede  off  anie  good  minde  or  purpose  but  off  con- 
tentious frowardnes  grownded  vppon  selff  loue  and  gaine 
that  vnder  a  colour  of  the  churche  they  might  gather  good 
mennes  deuotions,  and  neuer  distribute  anie  penny  theroff  or 
at  the  leaste,  to  none  (had  they  neuer  so  great  nede)  vnles  they 
woulde,  either  faune,  and  hange  on  them,  or  ells  sustaine  vn- 
charitable  tauntes  and  reproches  at  their  handes. 

For  where  Chambers  aboue  13.  monethes  paste  had  off 
maister  Whithead  then  Pastor  and  the  Seniors  then  a  letter  to 
receaue  of  one  special  ma  20.  powndcs  and  besides,  through 
Horns  procurement,  a  generall  proxie  to  Chambers,  and  his 
deputie,  to  gather  the  deuotion  off  good  men  for  the  relieff  off 
this  poore  congregation,  whiche  by  their  owne  proceedings 
here  before  the  Magistrates  (their  owne  hands  wrytinge 
testifinge  the  same)  and  otherwise  by  oure  knowledge  we  are 

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CLXXVIII. 

certeine,  they  did  put  in  practise,  and  receiued  muche  therby, 
yet  Chambers  vpon  the  accoumpt  here  left  behinde  him, 
neither  confesseth  that  he  receyued  the  saide  20.  powndes  nor 
yet  anie  other  smnme,  neither  hathe  he  distributed  (duringe 
all  the  tyme  he  was  in  office  yet  to  this  daie)  in  this  congrega- 
tion, to  anie  one  person  (sauing  to  3.  scollers  that  came  with 
him)  one  penny,  that  he  did  not  receiue  here  in  this  congrega- 
tion and  citie. 

And  yet,  at  his  departure  hence,  he  lefte  2.  off  the  saide 
scollers  (vnto  whom  neuertheles  he  promised  sufficient  pro- 
uision  and  findinge,  and  neuer  warned  them  to  the  contrary) 
in  dette  for  their  boorde  and  for  other  necessaries  almost  20. 
guilderns  whiche  this  poore  congregation  was  forced  to  paie. 
Finallie,  where  good  Mistres  Wilkinson  off  blessed  memorie, 
put  Home  and  Chambers  in  truste  with  the  deuisinge  and 
makinge  of  hir  will,  whereby  she  gaue  to  this  and  other  poore 
congregations  of  the  poore  banished  Englishe  men  a  Christian 
liberall  relief:  Albeit  they  haue  caused  some  off  the  saied 
congregations  to  be  paide  of  the  same  bequeste,  yet  hithertoo 
wolde  they  not  make  this  poore  congregation  priuie  to  the 
summe  bequethed  vnto  it,  muche  lesse  paie  it,  nor  yet 
(accordinge  to  the  order  of  oure  churches  discipline  aforesaide) 
let  the  will  be  seene,  so  as  the  frindles  younge  ientle  woman 
hir  daughter  shuld  not  be  defrauded  off  hir  right  nor  hir 
mothers  will  altered  to  hir  losse.  Furthermore,  Maister 
Chambers  vnderstandinge  that  we  were  minded  (accordinge 
to  oure  dewties)  to  requyre  an  accoumpte  of  him,  for  the  vse 
off  his  proxie,  getteth  him  suddainly  hence  (accompanied  with 
Maister  Home)  earely  in  a  morninge,  withowte  the  consent  or 
leaue  takinge  off  the  congregation  or  the  Ministerie  theroff, 
and  contrarie  to  his  one  openly  made  promesse,  that  he  would 
not  departe,  till  he  had  answered  all  that  any  man  coulde 
charge  him  with. 

And  at  his  goinge  awaie,  he  left  behinde  him  an  accoumpt, 
which  by  cuttinge  owte  the  leaues,  and  newe  written,  semethe 
not  to  be  nowe  at  the  last  as  it  was  at  the  firste,  albeit  it  was 


CLXXIX. 

neuer  so  perfect  as  Christian  fidelitie  woulde  haue  required  it 
to  be.  And  moreouer,  albeit  we  haue  twise  writte  vnto  him 
charitably  exhortinge  ad  requiringe  him  to  come  hither,  and 
discharge  himselff  of  those  thinges  that  shall  be  saide  vnto 
him  in  the  behalff  off  this  congregation,  and  to  the  in  thent 
he  shuld  restore  vnto  it  the  proxie  he  receiued,  and  no  longer 
by  himselff  or  his  deputie  exercise  it  in  the  name  off  this 
poore  churche,  as  we  are  informed  he  dothe  :  lie  neither 
commeth  nor  yet  maketh  answere  to  oure  letters,  wherby  we 
cannot  but  think  that  he  meaneth  not  onely  crafte  and  sub- 
tiltie  (much  vnworthie  the  integritie  and  fidelitie  that  he  pre- 
tendeth)  but  also,  to  hinder,  and  as  muche  as  in  him  lieth,  to 
vndoo  this  poore  congregation,  not  onely  off  that  he  hath 
already  receiued  and  caried  awaie,  (as  he  hath  heretofore  dealt 
with  the  companie  off  poore  students  at  Zurick)  but  also, 
through  vntrew  reportes  off  all  good  mennes  deuotions  and 
liberalitie  that  hereafter  woulde  ells  be  bestowed.  Their  re- 
portes (whiche  amonge  many  other  vntruthes  to  hinder  this 
poore  congregation  they  slanderously  brute  abroad)  are  chiefly 
theis  :  firste,  that  the  poore  off  this  churche  be  so  well  pro- 
uided  for,  that  the  worste  hathe  after  the  rate  of  2.  shillinges 
by  the  weeke.  Secodly,  that  some  of  the  poore  here,  be  so 
stowte  that  they  disdaine  to  aske  rclieff  in  their  nede,  so  that 
oure  poore  seeme  either  not  to  nede  or  not  to  be  worthie  off  helpe. 
And  thirdly,  that  men  here  seeke  to  knowe  the  names  off  the 
geuers  to  this  congregation  to  their  great  perill  and  vtter  vn- 
dooinge,  whiche  reportes  be  all  vtterly  vntrue,  but  the  trutlie 
is  that  for  lack,  many  poore  men  haue  byn  driuen  bothe  to 
depart  hence,  to  seeke  their  liuinge  in  other  places  and  some 
forced  to  go  for  relieff  into  England.  Theis  specialities  (be- 
sides muche  more  that  we  haue  thought  good  and  very  neces- 
sarie,  that  good  godly  men  shulde  knowe,  bothe  that  they  shuld 
not  conceaue  anie  euell  opinion  off  this  congregation  by  false 
reporte,  and  also,  that  mindinge  to  relieff  the  poore  and 
miserably  afflicted  members  off  Christe  their  brethern  in  this 
churche,  they  shulde  when  god  shall  moue  them  to  departe  with 


CLXXX. 

anie  thinge  to  that  vse,  so  deliuer  it,  as  it  maie  sauffly  come, 
and  iustly  be  distributed,  where  they  would  haue  it  bestowed. 
And  therfore  we  (considering  the  state  off  oure  fellowe  exiles 
liuinge  here  with  vs  in  nede  and  pouertie,  and  fedde  by  the 
onely  good  prouidence  off  god)  desier  all  Christian  men  for 
the  loue  off  oure  sauiour  Iesus  Christe  to  consider,  howe 
pleasant  a  sacrifice  howe  sweete  a  sauor  the  relieuinge  off  the 
poore  for  his  sake  is  before  the  face  off  oure  heauenly  father. 
A  good  mannes  liffe,  is  almoste  nothinge  ells  then  a  continuall 
exercise  off  mercie.  All  the  daie  longe  he  hathe  mercy  and 
pitie,  saith  the  prophet  Dauid. 

Geue  almes  off  thy  goodes  (saith  the  holie  man  Tobiah) 
and  turne  neuer  thy  face  from  the  poore  :  and  so  shall  it 
come  to  passe,  that  the  face  off  the  lorde  shall  not  be  turned 
awaie  from  the.  Be  mercifull  after  they  power  yff  thow  haste 
muche,  geue  plenteouslie  :  yf  thou  haste  litle,  do  thy  diligence 
gladlye  to  geue  of  that  litle,  for  so  gatherest  thow  thy  selff 
a  good  rewarde  in  the  daie  off  necessitie,  for  almes  deliuereth 
from  deathe  and  suffreth  not  the  soule  to  come  in  darknes. 
A  great  comforte  is  almes  before  the  high  God,  vnto  all  them 
that  doo  it. 

Blessed  is  he  that  consid[er]eth  the  poore  (saith  the  Prophet 
Dauid)  the  lorde  shall  deliuer  him  in  the  tyme  off  trouble,  &c. 
The  good  man  (saith  Dauid)  hath  distributed  abroad  and 
geuen  to  the  poore,  his  righteousnes  remaineth  for  euer  :  his 
home  shalbe  exalted  with  honor,  he  that  geueth  to  the  poore 
shall  not  lack,  saith  the  Wyse  man  in  the  prouerbes.  As 
water  quencheth  burninge  fire,  so  dothe  mercie  reconcile 
synnes  :  whiche  god  shall  rewarde  and  not  forget,  and  the 
doer  shall  fynde  a  staie  to  keepe  him  vpp  when  he  falleth, 
saithe  Iesus  the  sonne  off  Sirach.  Break  vnto  the  Hungrie  thy 
bread  saith  the  Prophet  Esaie  and  bringe  the  poore  fatherles 
into  they  howse,  when  thow  seeste  the  naked,  couer  him,  and 
hide  not  they  face  from  thine  owne  fleshe.  Then  shall  thy 
light  break  foorthe,  as  the  morninge,  and  thy  helthe  flourishe 
right  shortly,  thy  righteousnes  shall  go  before  thee,  and  the 


CLXXXI. 

glorie  of  the  lorde  shal  embrace  thee.  The  yf  thovv  callest, 
the  lorde  shall  answere  the :  yf  thou  criest,  he  shall  saye,  here 
I  am.  Laie  ye  not  vp  treasures  in  earthe,  where  the  rust  and 
the  moth  maie  destroy  it,  and  theues  maie  digge  it  owte  and 
steale  it,  saithe  Christe,  but  laie  vpp  your  treasures  in  heauen. 

Geue  almes  off  that  ye  haue  and  behold,  (saithe  Christe) 
all  is  cleane  vnto  yow.  What  ye  geue  to  one  off  theis  litle 
ones  (saithe  he)  ye  geue  it  vnto  me.  And  also  he  saith  : 
blessed  are  the  mercifull  for  they  shall  finde  mercie.  when  the 
ydolatrus  Kinge  Nabucadnezer  shuld  be  conuerted  vnto  god 
what  saied  the  Prophet  Daniell  vnto  him  ?  redeeme  they  synnes 
with  almes,  and  thy  wikednesse  with  mercie  on  the  poore,  so 
perhappes  god  will  pardon  they  sinnes.  Think  ye  that  god 
forgate  abdias  that  preserued  the  hundreth  Prophetes  in  caues 
and  fedd  them  there  ?  Paule  and  the  other  apostells  diligently 
bothe  with  wordes  and  writinge  did  labor  for  the  relieff  of  the 
poore  brethern  that  were  at  Ierusalem  and  ells  where. 

And  we  hope  that  god  will  open  your  hartes  and  mindes  to 
consider  oure  state  and  by  theis  saynges  and  examples  moue 
yow  to  haue  pitie  on  your  poore  brethern,  whiche  yff  it  shall 
please  his  mercie  to  graunte  yow  cheerfully  to  doo,  it  is  not 
to  be  dowted,  but  albeit  he  suffer  yow  to  slyde  and  fall  for  a 
time,  yet  will  he  heaue  yow  vp  (when  it  shalbe  his  good  plea- 
sure) and  preserue  yow,  so  as  at  the  lenght  ye  maie  be  par- 
takers off  the  ioyfull  kingdome  off  god  whiche  our  sauior  Iesus 
Christ  hathe  purchased  for  his  electe  with  the  price  off  his 
blood  The  holy  spirite  off  god  be  allwayes  with  yow  amen. 

This  controuersie  which  yow  haue  now  harde  from  the 
13.  of  Ianuary  hitherto.  I  finde  written  by  the  handes  off 
such  as  are  bothe  lerned  and  off  credit,  but  yet,  I  muste  nedes 
say,  by  those  that  were  parties  in  this  broyle.  And  for  so 
much  as  Maister  Chambers  in  this  controuersie  is  very  sore 
charged  amonge  the  reste :  who  yet,  was  thought  off  manie 
wise  and  godly  men,  to  be  verye  godly,  vpright,  and  honest, 
ad  so  no  dowte  he  tooke  his  leaue  of  this  lyffe  :  I  haue  ther- 
fore  here  thought  good  to  place  a  letter  whiche  is  yet  off  his 

i  3 


CLXXXII. 

owne  liande  to  be  seene,  wrytinge  the  same  in  his  owne  defence 
touchinge  theis  matters  so  as  the  reader  wayinge  bothe  the  one 
and  the  other,  maie  vse  his  iudgemente  with  discretion. 


The  copie  off  the  letter. 

To  the  worship.  Maister  Iohn  Hales,  M.  Thomas  Crawley. 
Maister  Iohn  Willford,  and  to  Maister  Whitthead,  Thomas 
Sorsby,  William  Maister  and  Iohn  olde  at  Franckford. 

Immanuell. 

I  wishe  vnto  yow  the  peace  off  god  with  my  commenda- 
tions. The  tenor  of  your  demaunde  hathe  caused  me  to  dif- 
ferr  answeringe  to  your  letters  vntill  this  time  not  off  pur- 
pos,  to  geue  no  answere,  but  that  I  then  vppon  the  suddain 
wanted  sure  knowledge  in  that  thinge  wherby  yow  chiefly 
charge  me.  At  my  comminge  from  Zurick  to  Frankford  I 
was  intreated  by  certaine  men  to  continewe  my  traueiles,  in 
gatheringe  the  Almes  and  liberalities  off  godly  me,  to  relieue 
therwith  such  poore  dispersed  Englishe  brethern,  As  I  shuld 
think  moste  meete  to  be  relieued  euen  as  before  time  I  had 
done.  This  requeste  put  in  writinge,  subscribed  by  certeine, 
was  deliuered  vnto  me,  not  as  letters  testimoniall  off  autho- 
rise, whiche  as  I  neded  not,  or  I  required  them  not,  neither 
yet  that  I  shuld  by  force  off  them  gather  for  the  church  off 
Franckford  onely,  or  specially,  whiche  I  purposed  not,  but 
that  I  might  be  the  rather  moued  to  doo  as  before  I  had  donne. 
And  they  then  required  (whiche  was  after  promesse  made  to 
further  my  doinges  with  all  faithfull  secrecie,  in  suche  sorte 
as  I  shulde  from  time  to  time  deuise  an  requier)  to  bestowe 


CLXXXIII. 

suche  summes  off  monie  as  shulde  hereafter  come  to  my 
handes  to  suche  vses  and  purposes  as  I  thought  good.  Ther- 
fore,  as  by  force  off  those  letters  I  gathered  not :  So  the  ga- 
theringe  for  Franckford  churche  hathe  not  byn  nor  is  in 
my  handes,  nor  off  any  other  at  my  appointmente  as  ye  do 
write. 

Wherfore  as  I  might,  so  I  did,  and  that  by  the  aduise  off 
manie  honeste,  graue,  and  godly  men,  departe  from  thense 
withowte  making  that  accoumpte,  to  whiche  I  am  not  bownde, 
nor  leauinge  for  the  relieff  off  the  poore,  off  whom  such  haue 
had  their  portion  in  this  blessinge  for  the  time  as  I  thought 
meete  to  be  relieued.  Vnto  the  Students  whom  I  neuer 
placed  there,  I  haue  performed  what  so  euer  I  promised. 
The  accoumpt  off  receiptes,  paiments  and  remaines  which 
ye  require,  I  intende  not  to  make  vnto  yow.  But  I  shall  be 
ready  at  all  times  and  in  all  places  to  make  a  iuste  accoumpte 
off  my  whole  dealinges  in  this  behalff  vnto  them  whiche  haue 
authoritie  to  demaunde  it  off  me.  In  the  meane  tyme,  as  I 
shall  by  gods  helpe  truly  do  my  indeauour,  to  relieue  the 
poore  as  I  shal  haue  wherwithe  and  finde  them  meete  to  re- 
ceiue  it :  So  shall  I  keepe  the  names  and  summes  secret  as  I 
am  bownde,  till  by  them  whiche  haue  iuste  authoritie  to  louse 
me  I  be  otherwise  appointed. 

Thus  I  committ  yow  to  the  grace  off  allmightie  god  from 

Strasbrough  this  20.  off  Iune,  Anno.  1557. 

Richarde  Chambers. 

After  I  had  written  this  answere  to  your  firste  letters  re- 
teining  them  in  my  hands  vntill  I  might  haue  a  conuenient 
Carior :  I  receaued  your  Seconde  letters  the  principall  matters 
therin  are  answered  before.  To  the  rest  that  be  any  thinge 
materiall,  thus  I  saie.  As  touching  the  delaye  off  mine  answere 
yow  call  contempte  more  vncharitablie  then  truly  as  vnto 
godly  wise  men  is  well  knowen.  As  my  departure  was  not, 
so  my  returne  to  Franckfurt  maie  not  be  at  your  appointe- 

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CLXXXIIII. 

ment.  Your  generall  accusations  off  misbehauiors  and  con- 
teraptes  in  the  whiche  yow  saie  I  am  faultie,  I  admitt  not. 
Iff  yow  can  iustly  charge  me  with  particulers,  I  shall  make 
answere  to  the  contentation  off  all  godly  mindes. 

Where  the  discipline  off  Christe  is  vsed  in  iuste  causes,  it 
is  to  be  regarded  but  your  vnorderly  abusinge  off  it,  and 
againste  me  that  am  not  off  your  churche,  I  esteeme  not. 
Yff  yow  vse  ciuill  proffes  againste  me,  I  shalbe  as  ready  to 
answere  the  cause  as  yow  to  entre  the  sute.  As  for  your  dis- 
playinge  off  me  to  our  dispersed  brethern  to  my  vndeserued 
dispraise  in  this  matter  cannot  be  such  but  that  I  shall  easilie 
purge  my  self.  As  god  knowethe  who  with  his  holy  spirite  mo- 
lifie  your  hartes  and  geue  yow  the  vnfained  true  sight  off 
your  selues  amen.     From  Strasbrough  the  30.  off  Iune  1557. 

Richard  Chambers. 
Deliuered  the  20.  off  Iuly  to  M.  Iohn  Bales  by  Iohn  Escot. 
Nowe,  Whiles  theis  sharpe  and  greuous  contentions  grewe 
more  and  more  at  Franckf.  (as  ye  haue  harde)  manye  thinges 
happened  in  other  places  whiche  maie  in  this  place  be  shortly 
touched,  to  the  glory  off  god  (I  hope)  and  also,  to  the  great 
comforte  off  the  godlie,  who  maie  by  the  same,  beholde  moste 
euidently  the  maruelous  prouidence  off  God  towarde  his  poore 
afflicted  and  dispersed  churche. 

After  that  M.  Bartue  and  the  dutches  of  Sulff.  were  safely 

arriued  at  Wezell   in  Westphalia,   the  brute  theroff  was  the 

cause  that  moo  Englishe  people  in  shorte  time  resorted  thither. 

M.  couer-  It  pleased  god  also,  that  M.  Couerdale  (after  that  he  had  bin 

foufdldte  vv'tne  tne  kinge  of  Denmark)  shuld  come  to  the  same  Towne, 

vfbipont.    who  preached  there  no  longe  time,  till  he  was  sent  for   by 

woulgange  duke  off  bypont,   to  take  the  pastorall  charge  off 

Bargzaber,  one  off  his  Townes  off  Germany  at  whose  com- 

minge  to  the  duke,  he  made  it  knowe,  bothe  to  himselff  and  to 

other  noble  me  abowte  him  off  M.  B.  and  the  dutches  beinge 

in  the  lowe  countries.     They  vnderstadinge,  the  daunger  that 

might  come  vnto  them  in  those  partes,  as  also  calling  to  re- 

mebrance,  what  great  curteisie  strangers  had  founde  in  Eng- 


CLXXXV. 

lande  at  the  dutches  handes  :   made  offre  that  iff  they  were 
forced  to  remoue  or  otherwise  if  it  pleased  them,  they  shuld  The  cur- 
haue  the  Castle  of  Winehaim  by  Hedleberge  within  the  liberties  J/^J^, 
of  Otto  Henricus  the  Palsgraue  and  a  godly  Prince,  who  most  mf»  off 
gladly  (as  well  appeared)  gaue  cosent  to  the  same.    M.  Bartue  to  M.^ 
and  the  Dutches  acceptinge  this  offre,  lefte  Wezell  and  came  Bari^  <|; 
vp  to  the  saide  Castle,  ad  there  cotinued,  til  leauinge  Germany  Sniff. 
they  traueled  towardes  the  lande  off  Pole.     The  congregation 
that  was  at  Wezell  wTantinge  amonge  them,   partly  the  cora- 
forte  whiche  many  off  them  had,  by  M.  B.  and  my  L.  beinge 
there,  and  partly  also  other  reasonable  cosiderations  mouinge 
them  :   they  left  Wezel  and  folowed  after :   But  passinge  by 
Franckf.  and  perceauinge  the  contention  to  be  amoge  them  so 
boilinge  hott,  that  it  ran  ouer  on  bothe  sides,  and  yet  no  fier 
quenched  :  many  had  small  pleasure  to  tarie  there,  but  went 
to  Basil  and  other  places,  whiles  M.  Leaner  made  sute  to  the 
lordes  of  Berna  for  a  churche  with  in  their  dominions,  whose 
letters  he  obtained  with  great  fauour  to  all  their  subiects  for 
the  frindly   entertainement  off  the    Englishe  nation.      Theis 
letters  obtained,    M.  Leauer,    M.   Boyes,    M.  Wilforde,   M. 
Pownall  and  T.  Vpchaier,  came  to  Geneua  to  haue  the  aduice 
off  that  churche  what  was  best  to  be  done  touching  the  erec- 
tion off  a  new  churche.     They  of  Geneua,  gaue  god  thanks 
for  that  it  had  pleased  him  so  to  incline  the  hartes  off  the 
lordes  off  Berna  towardes  them  and  gaue  incouragemet  that 
they  shuld  not  let  slyppe  so  good  an  occasion.      M.  I.  Bod- 
liegh  (who  was  no  small  staie  as  well  to  that  churche  as  to 
others)  and  W.   Kethe  traueiled  with  them.      And  passinge 
thorough  manie  partes  of  the  L.  of  B.  dominion  in  Sauoy  and 
Switzerland,  they  founde  suche   fauour  in   all  places  where 
they  came,  as  verelie  maie  be  to  the  great  condemnation  off' 
all  such  Englishe  men  as  vse  the  godly  stranger  (I  meane 
those  who  come  for  religion)  so  vncourteously. 

M.    Leaner  and  the   company   at  lenght  chose   Arrow  for  Englishe 
their  restinge  place,  where  the   congregation  liued  together  in  JJJjJjJJJ 
godlie  quietnesse  amoge  themselues  with  great  fauour  of  the 
people  amonge  whom  for  a  time  they  were  planted. 

i  5 


CLXXXVI. 

Homeand      Not  longe  after  this,  Maister  Home  and  maister  Chambers 

Chambers  .        .  ~  .  .  ... 

come  to  came  by  Arrowe  to  (jeneua,  semmge  at  that  tyme  to  like 
ffeneua.  verie  we]l  off  those  congregations,  (as  the  churche  of  Frank, 
also  then  did  as  apearethe  by  their  letters  afore)  in  so  muche 
as  the  said  Maister  Home  and  Chambers,  did  distribute  larglie 
to  the  necessitie  of  those  churches.  So  that  it  appeared  that 
the  olde  grudge  whiche  had  bin  betweene  the  churche  off 
Franck.  and  Geneua  had  bin  cleane  forgotten. 

It  came  to  passe  not  many  daies  after,  that  the  lorde  began 

to  shewe  mercy  vnto  Englande  in  remouinge  Queene  Mary 

be  deathe,   and  placinge   the   queens  maiestie   that  nowe  is 

(whom  god  longe  preserue)  in  the  seate,  the  newes  wherof,  as 

it  was  ioyfull  to  all  suche  as  were  in  exile,  So  it  appeared  that 

the  churche  off  Geneua  was  not  behinde  the  reste,  who,  (after 

that   they  had   geuen    to   god   hartie  thankes  for    his   great 

goodnes)  consulted  amonge  themselues  and  concluded,   that 

(for  so  muche   as  there  had  byn  iarres  betwene  them  and 

other   churches,    abowt  the  Booke   off  common    praier   and 

ceremonies)   it  was  now  expedient  and  necessary  not  onely 

that  vnfained  reconciliation  shulde  be  betwene  them  but  also 

that  they  might  so  ioine  together  in  matters  off  religion  and 

Ceremonies,  that  no  Papist  or  other  enemie  shuld  take  holde 

or  aduantage  by  a  farther  dissention  in  there  owne  countrie, 

whiche  might  arise  in  time  to  come,   yff  it  were  not  in  time 

Kethe  sent  foreseen  and  preuented.     To  this  ende  was  William  kethe, 

%mcmy  and  one  °^  tne  congregation  chosen  to  do  this  message,  to  them 

Hehetia.    off  Arrowe,   Basill,    Strasbrough,    Wormes,   Franckford  &c. 

And  to  them  off  Arrowe  and  Francford  this  letter  was  wrytten 

which  folowith  and  subscribed  by  the  ministerie  in  the  name 

off  the  whole  congregation. 


The  Copie  off  the  letter  written  the  15.  off 
December. 

The  Father  of  mercies  and  god  of  all  cosolation  connrme 
and  increase  yow  in  the  loue  off  his  sonne  Iesus  Christ,  that 
beinge  in  the  conduite  off  the  lion  off  the  tribe  off  Iuda,  ye 


CLXXXVII. 

maie  be  victorious,  against  Sathan  and  Antechriste  to  the 
ouerthrowinge  off  Papistrie  and  errour,  and  establishinge  of 
Christes  glorious  kingdome. 

After  that  we  hearde  (dearely  beloued)  of  the  ioiful  tidings 
off  Gods  fauoure  and  grace  restored  vnto  vs  by  the  prefer- 
ment off  the  moste  verteous  and  gratious  Queene  Elizabethe  : 
We  lyfted  vp  our  hartes  and  voices  to  oure  heauenly  father, 
who  hathe  not  onely  by  his  dewe  prouidence  norished  vs  in 
oure  banishement,  preserued  vs,  and  as  it  were,  caried  vs  in 
his  winges,  but  also  harde  oure  praiers  graunted  our  requestes, 
pitied  oure  countrie  and  restored  his  worde.  So  that  the 
sreatnes  off  this  maruelous  benefit  ouercomethe  oure  Iudge- 
ments  and  thoughts  howe  to  be  able  worthely  to  receaue  it 
and  to  geue  thankes  for  the  same.  And  when  we  had  withe 
great  comforte  wayed  the  matter,  to  the  intet  that  we  might 
at  the  leaste  shewe  our  selues  mindefull  off  this  most  wonder- 
full  and  vndeserued  grace,  we  thought  amonge  other  thinges 
howe  we  might  beste  serue  to  godes  glory  in  this  worke 
and  Vocation  off  fartheringe  the  gospell  off  our  sauiour 
Iesus  Christe.  And  bicause,  all  impedimentes  and  cauil- 
lacions  off  aduersaries  might  be  remoued,  it  seemed  good  to 
haue  your  godly  counsell  and  brotherly  conference  herein, 
whiche  we  desier  to  lerne  by  this  bearer  our  louinge  brother 
kethe,  that  we  might  all  ioyne  hartes  and  handes  together  in 
this  great  worke,  wherin  no  dowte  we  shall  finde  many  ad- 
uersaries and  staies.  Yet,  iff  we  (whose  suffraunce  and  per- 
secutions are  certeine  signes  off  oure  sounde  doctrine)  holde 
faste  together  it  is  most  certeine,  that  the  enemies  shall  haue 
lesse  power,  offences  shall  sooner  be  taken  awaie,  and  religion 
best  proceade  and  florishe. 

For  what  can  the  papiste  wishe  more  then  that  we  shulde 
dissent  one  from  an  other,  and  in  steed  off  preachinge  Iesus 
Christe  and  profitable  doctrine,  to  contende  one  againste  an 
other,  either  for  superfluous  Ceremonies  or  other  like  trifles 
fro  the  whiche  god  off  his  mercy  hathe  deliuered  vs.     Ther- 

1  fi 


CLXXXVIII. 

fore,  deare  brethern,  we  beseche  yow  (as  we  dowte  not  but 
your  godly  iudgements  will  think  it  so  beste)  that  what  so  euer 
offence  hathe  byn  heretofore  either  taken  or  geuen  :  it  maie  so 
cease  and  be  forgotten  that  hereafter  god  laie  it  not  to  oure 
charges  yff  thereby  his  blessed  worde  shulde  be  any  thinge 
hindred.  And  as  we  for  oure  partes  freely  remitt  all  offences 
and  most  intirely  imbrace  yow  oure  deare  brethern,  So  we 
beseche  yow  in  the  lorde  that  vnfainedly  yow  will  do  the  like 
on  your  behalff  wheroff  albeit,  we  assure  oure  selues,  as  bothe 
by  good  experience  we  haue  proued,  and  also  haue  receaued 
by  your  letters  :  yet,  to  cut  off  all  occasions  from  Papistes  and 
other  cauillors,  we  thought  it  beste  to  renewe  the  same  amitie, 
and  to  confirme  it  by  theis  oure  letters.  Moste  earnestly 
desiringe  yow  that  we  maie  altogether  teache  and  practise 
that  true  knowledge  off  Goddes  worde,  whiche  we  haue 
lerned  in  this  pure  banishment  and  by  goddes  mercifull  proui- 
dence,  seene  in  the  beste  reformed  churches  :  That  consider- 
inge  oure  negligence  in  times  paste  and  goddes  punishemente 
for  the  same,  we  maie  with  zeele  and  diligence  endeauour  to 
recopence  it,  that  god  in  all  oure  doinges  maie  be  glorified,  oure 
consciences  discharged  and  the  members  off  Iesus  Christ  re- 
leued  and  comforted.  The  whiche  thinge  the  lorde  god  who 
hathe  mercifully  visited  and  restored  vs  graunt  and  performe. 
To  whom  be  all  honour,  praise,  and  glory  for  euer  and  euer. 

Your  lovinge  frinds,  and  in  the  name 
of  whole  churche. 

Christopher  Goodman  William  Williams  John  Pullain 
Miles  Couerdale  Anthony  Gilby        William  Bevoyes 

John  Knox  Frances  Withers,     William  Whittingham 

Iohn  Bodliegh.  William  Fuller. 

The  Answere  returned  from  Franck. 
by  W.  Kethe. 

The   grace  off  god   and   the    assistaunce  off  the  holy  goste 


CLXXXIX. 

lighten  and  strenghten  yow  to  the  vnderstanding  and  con- 
stant reteining  of  his  truthe,  to  the  fartheraunce  oft"  his  honor 
and  glorie  and  to  the  edifinge  and  maintenance  off  his 
churche  in  Christe  Iesu  oure  lorde. 

Dearely  beloued,  as  your  letters  were  moste  welcome  vnto 
vs,  bothe  for  that  ye  reioice  at  the  prefermet  off  our  godly 
qneene,  and  also  that  ye  studie  howe  to  promote  the  glorie  off 
god  :  So  are  we  right  sory  that  they  came  not  afore  the  depar- 
ture off  suche  as  ye  seeke  a  charitable  reconciliatio  with  all. 
For  where  as  ye  require  that  all  suche  offences  as  haue  byn 
gyuen  and  taken  betwene  yow  and  vs  maie  be  forgotten  here- 
after :  there  be  not  here  paste  foure  left,  which  were  then  pre- 
sent when  ye  dwelt  here  and  not  one  off  the  lerned  sorte  sauinge 
M.  Beesley.  Yet,  we  dowte  not,  but  as  they  promised  in 
their  former  letters,  to  forget  all  displeasures  afore  conceaued, 
so  they  will  performe  the  same  and  esteeme  yow  as  their 
brethern.  And  for  oure  partes,  as  we  haue  had  no  cotention  with 
yow  at  all  afore  time  :  so  we  purpos  not  (as  we  trust  there  shall 
be  no  cause)  to  entre  into  contention  with  yow  hereafter. 
For  ceremonies  to  cotende  (where  it  shall  lye  neither  in  your 
hands  or  oures  to  appoint  what  they  shall  be  but  in  suche 
mennes  wisedomes  as  shall  be  appointed  to  the  deuising  off 
the  same  and  which e  shall  be  receyued  by  comon  consent  off 
the  parliament)  it  shalbe  to  small  purpos.  But  we  truste  that 
bothe  true  religion  shall  be  restored,  and  that  we  shall  not  be 
burthened  with  vnprofitable  ceremonies.  And  therfore,  as  we 
purpos  to  submit  oure  selues  to  such  orders  as  shall  be  esta- 
blished by  authoritie,  beinge  not  of  themselues  wicked,  so  we 
would  wishe  yow  willingly  to  do  the  same.  For  where  as  all 
the  reformed  churches  differ  amoge  them  selues  in  diuers 
ceremonies,  and  yet  agree  in  the  vnitie  of  doctrine  :  we  se  no 
inconuenience  if  we  vse  some  ceremonies  diuers  from  them,  so 
that  we  agree  in  the  chief  points  of  oure  religio.  notwithstand- 
inge,  if  anie  shalbe  intruded,  that  shalbe  offensiue,  we,  vpon 
iuste  conference  and  deliberation  vpon  the  same  at  oure  meet- 
inge  with  yow  in  Englande  (whiche  we   truste  by  gods  grace 


cxc. 

will  be  shortly)  wil  brotherly  ioine  with  yovv  to  be  sewters  for 
the  reformatio  and  abolishinge  of  the  same.  In  the  meane  sea- 
son, let  vs  with  one  harte  and  minde  cal  to  the  almightie  god 
that  off  his  infinit  mercie,  he  will  finishe  and  establishe  that 
worke  that  he  hathe  begon  in  oure  countrie,  and  that  we  maie 
all  louingly  consent  together  in  the  earnest  settinge  foorthe  off 
his  truthe,  that  god  maie  be  knowen  and  exalted,  and  his 
church  perfectly  builded  vp  throwgh  Christe  our  lorde. 
From  Franckford  this  3.  offlanuarie  1559. 

Your  lovinge  frinds  in  the  name 
off  the  rest  off  the  churche. 

lames  Pilkington  Henry  Knolls 

Iohn  Mailings  Frances  Wilford 

Henry  Carowe  Alexander  nowell 

Edmond  Isaac  Richard  Beesley 

Iohn  Browne  Iohn  Graye 

Christopher  Brickbate. 


An  Answer  brought  from  the  congregation  off  Arrow 
by  W.  Kethe. 

The  Father  off  mercies  and  God  off  all  consolation 
confirme  increase  and  continewe  vow  allwaie  in  the  loue  off 
his  sonne  Iesus  Christe  our  lorde. 

Praised  be  God  through  oure  lorde  Iesus  Christe  whiche 
pulled  downe  marie  that  did  persecute,  and  hathe  set  vpp 
the  godly  lady  Elizabeth  Queene  off  Englande,  to  restore  and 
maintaine  there,  the  pure  preachinge  off  his  word.  And  for 
that  it  hathe  pleased  god  to  moue  your  good  hartes,  for  the 
furtherance  off  the  same,  with  godly  zeele  and  charitable  de- 
sier  by  your  letters,  to  shewe  vnto  vs  your  aduise  and  purpos 
and  also  to  require  oures  to  be  returned  and  sent  vnto  yow  by 


CXCI. 

cure  brother  Kethe :  We  doo  with  rnoste  hartie  thanks  vn- 
fainedly  afore  god  certifie  yow,  that  to  your  counsell  and  con- 
ference with  vs,  we  do  consent  willingly  concerninge  your 
most  godly  requeste,  for  that  we  acknowledge,  that  the  same 
shall  be  to  the  aduauncement  off  his  glorie  and  quietnes  off 
his  churche.  Also,  we  desier  yow  that  as  ofte  as  we  maie 
finde  hereafter  anie  occasion  to  consulte  and  conferre  by 
worde  or  writinge,  that  then  bothe  yow  and  we  so  take  and 
seeke  the  same  as  maie  be  moste  to  our  vnitie  in  mindes,  and 
diligence  to  do  good  in  the  lordes  worke.  And  farthermore 
for  the  forgettinge  and  puttinge  awaie  all  occasions  off  offences 
we  do  likewise  consente  vnto  your  good  ensample  and  requeste, 
And  so  finallye  for  the  preachinge  or  professinge  off  sincere 
doctrine  so  as  we  haue  seene  and  lerned  in  the  beste  reformed 
churches  we  do  gladly  heare  your  aduise  to  be  so  agreable  to 
oure  purpos  that  we  beseche  yow  to  praie  with  vs,  that  yow 
and  all  we  together  that  be  faith  full  maie  continewe,  proceade, 
and  prosper  in  godly  zeele,  charitable  Concorde  and  earnest 
diligence  to  honor  and  serue  god  and  to  comforte  and  edifie 
his  elect  all  times  and  in  euery  place  and  especially  nowe  in 
England.  O  lord  not  vnto  vs  but  vnto  they  name  be  honor 
and  praise  for  euer.     From  Arrowe,  this  16.  off  Ian.  1559. 

Your  louinge  frinds  off  the  ministery 
in  the  name  and  by  the  consent  of  the 
whole  church. 

Thomas  Leaner.  Richard  Langhorne. 

Robart  Pownall.  Thomas  Turpin. 

Nowe  when  as  W.  Kethe  was  returned  to  Geneua  with 
answer  from  the  congregations  and  companies,  that  were  dis- 
persed in  sundry  places  off  Germany  and  Heluetia,  the  con- 
gregation (after  that  they  had  rendred  their  humble  thankes 
to  the  magistrates  for  their  great  goodnes  towards  them)  pre- 
pared themselues  to  depart  sauinge  certeine  whiche  remained 


CXCII. 

behinde  the  reste,  to  witt,  to  finishe  the  bible,  and  the  psalraes 
bothe  in  meeter  and  prose,  vvhiche  were  already  begon,  at 
the  charges  off  suche  as  were  off  most  habilitie  in  that 
cono-reo-ation.      And  with  what  successe   those  workes  were 

o      o 

finished,  (especially  the  Bible)  I  must  leaue  it  to  the  Iudge- 
mentes  off  the  godly  lerned,  who  shulde  best  Iudge  off  the 
same. 

But  yff  that  Bible  be  suche,  as  no  enemie  off  god  coulde 
iustly  finde  faulte  with  :  then  maie  men  maruell  that  suche  a 
worke,  (beinge  so  profitable)  shulde  finde  so  small  fauor,  as 
not  to  be  printed  againe.  Yff  it  be  not  faithfully  translated, 
then  let  it  still  finde  as  litle  fauour  as  it  dothe  bicause  off  the 
inconueniences  that  a  false  translation  bringes  with  it.  The 
Ministers  off  Geneua  in  an  Epistle  whiche  they  wrote,  before 
the  newe  Testament  haue  theis  wordes. 

There  is  nothinge  more  requisite  to  attaine  the  right  and 
absolute  knowledge  off  the  doctrine  off  saluation,  wherby  to 
resist  all  herisie  and  falshod,  then  to  haue  the  texte  off  the 
Scriptures  faithfully  and  truly  translated,  the  consideration 
wheroff  moued  them  with  one  assent  (as  they  saie  in  that 
Epistle  to  requeste  2.  off  their  brethern,  to  witt,  Caluin  and 
Beza,  efsonnes  to  peruse  the  same  notwithstandinge  their 
former  trauells.  Beza  also  in  his  Epistle  to  the  prince  off 
condy  and  nobles  of  France  hathe  these  wordes.  Seinge  then 
all  theis  controuersies  muste  be  discussed  by  Goddes  worde,  I 
suppose  that  this  thinge  ought  chiefly  to  be  prouided  for,  that 
seinge  all  canot  haue  the  knowledge  to  vnderstand  the  worde 
off  God  in  theis  peculiar  languages,  the  Hebrue  and  the  greek 
(whiche  were  to  be  wished)  that  there  shulde  be  some  true 
and  apte  translation  of  the  olde  and  newe  testamete  made  the 
whiche  diuers  haue  already  labored  to  bringe  to  passe,  but  yet 
no  man  hathe  hitherto  sufficiently  performed  it.  For  the  olde 
translation  (whose  so  euer  it  is)  although  it  ought  not  to  be 
condemned,  yet  is  it  found e  bothe  obscure  vnperfect  and  super- 
fluous and  also  false  in  many  places,  to  speake  nothinge  off  an 
infinite  varietie  off  the  copies.     The  whiche  texte  therfore 


CXCIII. 

many  lerned  and  godly  men  haue  laboured  to  amende,  but  not 
with  like  successe.  And  yet  howe  necessary  a  thinge  this  is, 
who  so  euer  shall  reade  those  moste  lerned  wryters  off  the 
gretians,  and  shall  compare  their  interpretations  (whiche  are 
manie  times  fan*  from  the  purpos)  with  the  Hebrue  veritie,  he 
shall  confesse  it  with  great  sorovve. 

And  the  same  euill  was  not  onely  hurtefull  amonge  the 
latten  writers,  but  also  the  ignorance  off  the  greeke  tonge 
wherwith  many  off  them  were  troubled,  whiles  they  did 
depend  off  the  common  translation,  they  oftimes  seeke  a  knott 
in  a  rushe  (accordinge  to  the  olde  prouerbe)  and  fell  into 
moste  fowle  errors.  This  cause  therfore  hathe  moued  me  to 
compare  mcste  diligently  the  diuersitie  off  copies,  and  to 
waie  the  sentences  and  Iudgementes  off  the  moste  parte  off 
the  lerned  men  specially  off  them  that  this  age  hathe  brought 
foorthe,  skillfull  in  the  languages,  who  are  rnoo  in  nomber 
dowteles  and  better  lerned  then  the  churche  hath  had  sithens 
the  time  of  the  Apostles,  and  so  ease  them  some  what  that 
desier  a  more  pure  interpretation. 

And  that  it  might  be  done  with  more  profit  I  haue  allso 
added  annotations,  in  the  whiche  I  haue  also  compared  together 
the  diuersitie  off  interpretations  and  as  muche  as  I  coulde  I 
haue  labored  to  make  plaine  and  euident  the  sence  and  mean- 
inge  off  all  the  darke  places,  &c. 

Thus  farr  Beza,  by  whose  Iudgement  and  the  rest  ye  se, 
that  to  haue  the  holy  Scriptures  truly  and  faithfully  translated 
is  a  matter  off  no  small  importaunce.  Here  might  I  touche 
a  thinge  parhapp  worthe  the  hearinge  yff  hope  were  off 
redresse,  whiche  is,  that  yff  the  lerned  were  but  one  halff  so 
earneste,  zelous,  and  careful],  to  se  that  the  holy  Scriptures  in 
this  Realme  might  be  faithfully  translated  and  trulye  corrected, 
as  they  are  many  tymes  abowte  matters  nothinge  so  necessaiie  : 
I  woulde  not  dowte  to  saie  that  they  shulde  do  vnto  god  an 
excellent  peece  off  seruice. 

For  the  moste  parte  off  oure  Englishe  Bibles  are  so  ill 
translated  (as  the  lerned  report)  and  so  falsely  printed  (as  the 


CXCIIII. 

simple  maie  finde)  that  suche  had  nede  to  be  verie  well  ac- 
quainted with  scripture,  as  in  many  places  shulde  get  owte  the 
true  meaninge  and  sence.  And  it  is  high  time  to  looke  vnto 
this,  consideringe,  that  in  moste  partes  off  this  Realme 
preachers  ye  haue  none,  nor  anie  that  can  or  will  preache 
(verie  fewe  excepted)  sauinge  certeine  wanderers,  amongest 
whom  (and  specially  in  some  sheers)  are  such  ruffenly  rake- 
helles,  and  c5mo  couseners  permitted  and  suffred,  by  whose 
preachings,  the  worde  off  truthe  is  become  odious,  in  the  eies 
off  the  people.  Seinge  then  (I  saie)  that  in  moste  places,  the 
ministery  clothe  stande  and  consiste  of  olde  popishe  preistes, 
tollerated  readers  and  many  newe  made  ministers,  whose 
readinges  are  suche,  that  the  people  cannot  be  edified,  espe- 
cially, where  one  is  tollerated  to  serue  2.  or  3.  churches  ad 
turninge  their  backes  to  the  people.  I  leaue  to  the  consider- 
ation off  suche  (who  haue  to  deale  in  this  matter)  what  great 
ad  intolerable  mischeiues  maie  come  more  and  more,  (by 
suffringe  suche  corrupted  Bibles  in  churches  and  ells  where) 
to  the  poore  simple  flock  off  Christe.  But  nowe  to  drawe  to 
an  ende.  ye  se  (brethern)  by  this  brieff  and  shorte  discours, 
that  the  grudge  wherupon  this  dissention  hangethe  is  paste  the 
age  off  a  childe,  and  therfore  maie  (withowte  offence  I  hope) 
be  called  an  olde  grudge,  whiche,  as  it  seemeth,  was  neuer  yet 
througly  healed,  as  will  more  and  more  appeare,  as  this  dis- 
course shall  be  from  time  to  time  continued,  till  it  be  brought 
euen  to  this  present  tyme,  which  time  verely,  is  so  extreame 
as  the  like  hathe  rarely  bin  hard  off.  For  it  is  come  to  passe, 
that  iff  anie  shulde  but  with  a  godly  grief  bewaile  the  imper- 
fections that  remaine  and  craue  for  redresse :  yea,  but  sus- 
pected, or  shulde  but  by  malice  off  an  Atheist,  a  Papist,  or 
Epicure  be  presented  :  such  are  not  onely  reuiled  and  taunted, 
skoffed  at  and  termed  by  theis  odious  names  off  precisian, 
puritain,  contentious,  seditious,  rebell,  traitor  and  what  not : 
but  also  yff  he  come  once  in  presence  off  the  Bishopps,  and 
subscribe  not  to  what  so  euer  they  will,  then,  (yf  he  haue 
liuinge)  to  be  depriued,  or  whither  he  haue  liuinge  or  not,  be 


cxcv. 

he  lerned  or  vnlerned,  be  he  man  or  woman,  halt  or  blinde,  to 
prison  lie  muste,  withowte  all  redemption. 

I  wil  not  saie  that  (in  the  meane  time)  such  as  are  turne 
coates  and  can  chaunge  with  al  seasons,  subscribinge  to  what  so 
euer,  and  can  cap  it  can  cope  it  an  curry  for  aduantage,  that 
such,  I  saie,  how  ignorant,  how  vitious,  and  vngodly  so  euer 
they  be,  Hue  at  their  ease  in  all  pleasure  and  in  some  place  are 
thought  to  be  moste  meete  men  for  the  ministerie.  But  this  I 
maie  be  bolde  to  affirme,  that,  (although  in  very  dede  I  neither 
do  nor  dare  condemne  certeine  godly  persons,  who  off  infirmitie, 
but  yet  with  most  sorowfull  and  heauy  hartes  (as  hathe  well 
appeared  by  their  most  lamentable  protestations  with  plentie 
off  teares  to  their  congregations)  haue  yelded  to  more  then 
expedient  it  were  they  shulde,  (prayinge  the  lorde  to  let  them 
se  it  in  time)  yet,  it  maie  not  onely  be  saide,  but  proued  too  I 
truste,  that  neither  is  subscribinge  allwaies  a  sure  note  off 
good  subiect  nor  yet  the  refusall  dew  proffes  off  a  rebell. 

The  greatest  Traitors  and  rebells  that  godly  Kinge  Edwarde 
had  in  the  weste  partes,  were  priests,  and  such  as  had  sub- 
scribed to  the  booke  or  what  so  euer  by  lawe  was  then  in 
force,  but  for  all  their  subscribings,  there  was  no  skirmishe, 
where  some  off  those  subscribers  left  not  their  karkaises  in 
the  filde  againste  god  and  their  prince.  Plumtree  and  his 
fellowe  priests  off  the  northe,  I  dowte  not  but  they  were  con- 
formable and  applyable  to  all  orders  and  neuer  staggered  at 
subscriptions.  But  for  all  that,  time  tried  their  traiterous 
hartes. 

But  in  all  the  sturres  whiche  haue  happened  either  sithens 
the  Queenes  maiestie  came  to  the  crowne  or  before  I  haue 
not  hard  off  so  muche  as  one  (minister  or  other)  that  hath 
lifted  vp  his  hande  against  hir  maiestie  or  state,  whom  it 
pleaseth  the  enuious  and  malicious  man,  to  terme  precision, 
and  puritain  in  great  despite  and  contempt.  In  dede,  this 
haue  I  founde  oute  and  lerned,  that  euen  suche  as  muste  be 
cotente  and  patiently  beare  those  odious  names  of  puritane 
precisian,  traitor,  and  rebell,  haue  yet  bin  the  men,  who  moste 


CXCVI. 

faithfully  (in  their  callinge)  haue  serued  the  queens  maiestie 
and  their  country  bothe  with  in  the  realme  and  with  owte 
the  realme  in  Garnison  and  in  filde,  hazardinge  their  bodies 
against  hargabuze  and  cannon,  when  as  those  who  nowe  so 
furiously  charge  them  both  owte  off  pulpits  and  other  places 
durst  not  or  at  leste  woulde  not  in  anie  such  seruice  off  the 
prince  and  countrie  be  seene.  For  proffe  hereoff,  yff  yow  call 
to  remembrance,  who  hazardid  his  liffe  with  that  olde,  Honor- 
able Erie  off  Bedford  when  as  he  was  sent  to  subdue  the 
popishe  rebells  off  the  weste,  yow  shall  finde  that  none  off 
the  clergie  were  hastie  to  take  that  seruice  in  hande,  but 
onely  olde  father  Couerdale.  When  moste  likelode  was  off 
daunger  betweene  the  Skotts  and  vs,  the  preacher  to  the 
souldiars  was  firste  Maister  Sampson,  and  afterward  Maister 
Greshopp  when  as  the  right  honorable  Erie  off  Bedford  that 
nowe  is  had  there  the  charge.  The  Erie  off  Warwick  at  his 
beinge  in  Newhauen,  had  in  dede  with  him  certeine  Ministers 
for  a  time,  but  after  that  the  Cannon  came  and  began  to 
roare,  and  the  plage  off  pestilence  so  terriblie  to  rage,  then 
(I  weene)  not  a  Minister  there  left,  but  Maister  Kethe  alone. 
And  whe  as  meanes  were  made  to  haue  mo  Ministers  ouer, 
to  aide  the  saied  Kethe  (who  had  so  muche  to  doo,  what 
with  preaching,  and  visitinge  the  poore  sick  Souldiars  which 
were  in  no  small  nombers)  there  coulde  not  be  founde  (as 
that  right  noble  Erie  can  vppon  his  honor  testifie)  so  muche 
as  one  whiche  coulde  be  brought  to  so  muche  conformitie, 
as  to  subscribe  to  any  suche  seruice  off  the  Queens  Ma- 
iestie. 

When  S.  Henry  Sidney  had  to  do  with  the  Popishe  rebells 
off  Ireland,  Maister  Christop.  Goodman  shewed  his  faith- 
full  diligence  in  that  seruice.  When  the  Erie  off  Warwick 
was  sent  to  subdue  the  popish  rebells  in  the  northpartes, 
the  preachers  off  the  Queens  maiesties  Army  were  Kethe, 
Temes,  and  standon  who  offred  themselues  in  that  seruice 
voluntarily  with  owte  all  constraynte.  And  thus  it  is  euidente, 
that  theis  with  a  nomber  moo  who  are  now  so  ill  thought  off, 


CXCVII. 

as  iff  they  were  traitors  and  rebells,  haue  yet  byn  so  farre  off' 
from  beinge  sedieious,  that  they  haue  at  all  times  aduentured 
their  liues  againste  seditious  persons  and  rebells,  when  as 
suche  as  nowe  so  hardly  charge  them  bothe  by  worde  and 
writinge,  haue  byn  right  hartely  well  content,  to  take  their 
ease  and  reste  at  home. 

Consideringe  then,  how  many  waies  we  are  vniustly  bur- 
thened  and  brought  into  hatred  withowte  iuste  cause,  I  sup- 
posed, that  no  godly  man  wolde  be  offended,  yff  by  such 
lawfull  meanes  as  I  might,  I  sought  bothe  to  purge  my  selff 
and  the  rest  off  my  brethern,  from  such  heinous  and  odious 
crimes  as  some  would  seeme  to  charge  vs.  And  that  coulde 
I  not  doo  so  well  anie  waie,  as  by  the  gatheringe  together  off 
this  discourse,  wherin  the  indifferent  reader  shall  finde,  that 
the  religion  whiche  we  holde  and  professe,  is  not  onely  the 
true  ad  sincere  rcligio  of  Christe,  and  the  self  same  with  all 
the  reformed  churches  in  Christendome,  but  also  that  whiche 
this  Realme  hathe  established,  touching  the  true  doctrine 
comonly  taught  therein.  By  this  discours  also,  yt  maie  be 
seene,  bothe  when,  where,  how,  and  by  whom  this  contro- 
uersie  firste  began,  who  cotinued  it,  who  was  on  the  suffring 
side  and  who  readieste  to  forget  and  forgeue,  that  godly  peace 
and  concord  might  be  had.  Nowe,  iff  anie  shall  seeme  to  be 
offended  with  this  that  I  had  don,  I  do  moste  humblie  be- 
seche  them,  to  way  well  and  expende  with  themselues,  firste, 
whither  I  haue  geuen  them  anie  suche  cause,  yff  it  be  for  that 
I  haue  in  this  discours  brought  to  light  some  tninge  that 
might  haue  bin  keept  secret,  (the  contention  beinge  amonge 
brethern)  to  the  ende  the  common  enemie  shulde  not  haue 
cause  to  triumphe :  let  this  satisfie  them :  firste,  that  the 
wicked  and  common  enemye  cannot  (for  his  harte)  more 
tryumphe  ouer  the  Godly  then  he  dothe  allready  and  that 
throughe  owte  this  whole  realme.  Againe,  the  crueltie  off 
Cain  to  Abell,  off  Ismaell  to  Isaac,  off  Esau  to  Iacob,  off  the 
Patriarkes  to  their  brother  Ioseph,  the  hot  contention  be- 
tweene  Paule  and  Barnabas  and  Paule  and  Peter  &c.  all  theis 


CXCV1II. 

beinge  knowne  to  the  worlde,  hathe  turned  notwithstanding  to 
the  great  glorie  off  God,  as  my  assured  hope  is  that  euen  this 
will  also  in  the  ende. 

And  therfore,  as  the  lorde  off  heauen  knoweth  that  the 
keepinge  off  theis  thinges  almoste  by  the  space  off  theis 
twentie  yeres  in  secret,  might  suffice  to  witnes  with  me  that 
I  had  nowe  no  great  pleasure  to  vtter  it,  so  I  wote  not  howe 
it  commethe  to  passe  that  euen  in  the  middest  off  great 
striuing,  and  struglinge  with  my  selff  what  to  doo,  I  coulde 
not  be  by  anie  meanes  resolued,  or  se  iuste  cause,  why  I  shuld 
any  longer  conceale  it. 

Yff  anie  shulde  thinke  that  I  haue  not  with  indifferencie, 
penned  the  storie  :  I  referre  me  (to  satisfie  suche)  to  the 
iudgements  and  consciences  off  those  persons,  who  were  the 
plaiers  off  this  tragedie,  (off  bothe  partes  many  yet  liuinge) 
assuringe  my  selff  that  neither  part  shall  be  able  iustlie  to 
charge  me,  excepte  it  be  for  that  in  verie  dede  I  haue  sought 
rather  howe  to  couer  manie  thinges,  then  to  laie  them  wide 
open  to  the  worlde,  as  I  nothinge  dowte  to  proue  iff  I  might 
be  but  harde  indifferently,  in  so  muche  as  in  this  discours  I 
haue  (asmuche  as  I  coulde)  passed  ouer  the  names  off  all 
where  credit  might  seeme  to  haue  bin  impaired  therby  (sailing 
onely  off  suche  as  were  off  verie  necessitie  to  be  noted  for  the 
better  vnderstanding  off  the  historic 

To  conclude :  againste  the  offences  whiche  some  maie 
take  at  theis  my  trauells,  I  haue  sett  the  greate  profit  that  this 
maie  bringe  to  goddes  churche  and  to  the  posteritie,  who 
beinge  taught  by  other  mennes  harmes  (yff  they  be  happie) 
will  lerne  to  beware  the  hope  wheroff  had  greater  force  to 
pushe  my  pen  forwarde  to  the  finishinge  off  this  worke,  then 
the  displeasures  off  certaine  (arisinge  so  far  as  I  se  off  no 
grownd)  coulde  be  to  withdrawe  me  from  the  same,  besechinge 
almightie  god  so  strengths  me  with  his  holie  spirite,  that  what 
troubles  or  trialls  so  euer  shall  by  the  lordes  good  prouidence 
happen  to  me  hereby,  he  will  vouchsaffe  to  geue  me  a  con- 
tented minde  quietly  and  with  patience   to  beare  it,  before 


CXCIX. 

whom  I  proteste,  that  in  wrytinge  this  discourse  I  haue  had 
respecte  to  his  glorie,  the  defence  off  his  sacred  truthe,  the 
cleeringe,  so  farr  as  I  might,  off  so  many  excellent  lerned  men 
(on  whose  neckes  this  sturre  is  laied  as  authors  off  the  same) 
and  not  that  I  haue  willingly  sought  the  hurte,  hinderance,  or 
discredit  off  anie  man. 


And  this  I  praie,  that  your  loue  maie  abounde  yet  more  and  Phi. 
more  in  knowledge  and  in  all  Iudgement,  that  ye  maye  discerne 
thinges  that  differ  one  from  another,  that  ye  maie  be  pure  and 
withowte  offence  vntill  the  daie  off  Christe 

Keepe  the  true  paterne  off  the  wholsome  wordes  whiche  2.  Tim.  2. 
thow  haste  harde  of  me  in  faithe  and  loue  whiche  is  in  Christe 
Iesu. 


Study  to  shewe  thy  selff  approued  vnto  god  a  workman  2.  Tim.  1. 
it  ne 
aright. 


that  nedethe  not  to  be  ashamed  deuidinge  the  worde  off  truthe 


The  answere  off  the  ministers  off  Geneua  to  certeine 

brethern  off  the  churche  off  Englande  concerninge 

some  controuersie  in  the  Ecclesiasticall 

policie. 

Beinge  right  earnestly  and  often  required  by  certeine  deare 
brethern  off  the  churche  off  Englande  that  we  woulde  in 
their  miserable  state  geue  them  some  kinde  off  counsaile 
whereon  theire  consciences  might  be  staied,  the  Iudgemente  off 
many  beinge  therin  diuers  :  we  did  longe  differre  the  satisfinge 
off  their  requestes  vppon  waightie  causes.  And  we  assure  the 
reader  that  eue  nowe  also  we  moste  gladly  woulde  houlde  oure 


cc. 

peace,  were  it  not  a  matter  of  conscience  to  reiecte  the  sute 
of  the  brethern  so  often  enforced  and  with  moste  greuous 
groninges  reneued.  Off  whiche  stifned  silence  off  ours  theis 
were  the  causes,  firste,  as  on  the  one  part  we  dowte  not  off 
the  credit  off  the  brethern,  as  thoughe  they  had  not  sincerely 
described  the  state  off  the  cause  vnto  vs,  so  on  the  other  side 
it  is  moste  harde  for  to  suspecte  suche  thinges,  so  clene  be- 
sides all  office  off  Bishopps  muche  lesse  perswade  oure  selues 
the  same  by  suche  personages  done. 

And  farther,  what  men  are  we  that  we  shulde  determine 
vppon  suche  causes.  Also,  iff  it  were  lawfull  for  vs  either  by 
authoritie,  or  els  by  consent  or  requeste  of  either  parties,  to 
geue  sentence  here  vppon,  yet  were  yt  a  mater  moste  wronge- 
full  either  partie  not  harde  or  not  present  to  determine.  Laste 
off  all  feare  mistrusted  leaste  so  great  a  mischieff  shuld  by  this 
oure  counsell  (howe  simple  so  euer  it  is)  rather  become  rawe  the 
skined :  it  beinge  a  sore  of  so  desperate  a  nature,  as  that  it  semeth 
to  be,  that  praiers  and  patience  can  onely  salue  the  same. 

Seinge  then,  that  by  the  sundrie  requests  off  the  brethern, 
we  are  so  hardly  perswaded,  that  off  force  we  ought  to 
geue  them  some  kinde  off  aduise :  We  do  openly  proteste,  that 
we  so  geue  the  same  herein  as  those  that  will  not  in  anie  wise 
preiudice  the  other  partie,  muche  lesse  chalinge  to  vs  a  ius- 
ticiers  roume  ouer  anie.  And  all  those  men  (into  whose 
handes  theis  do  come)  we  do  in  the  lorde  desier,  that  they  be 
not  herewith  offended,  but  do  perswade  themselues  that  theis 
contentes  are  bothe  simplie  and  faithfully  written  off  vs  as 
vppon  a  questioned  cause  graunted,  that  the  consciences  off 
the  brethern  whiche  desier  it,  might  some  waie  be  better 
apeased,  whiche  to  set  altogether  at  nought  were  a  dede  wholie 
voide  off  charitie. 

Therfore,  the  cause  standinge  as  we  are  informed,  we  pro- 
fesse  plainely  and  in  Good  faithe  that  our  Iudgementes  ouer 
theis  questions  are  thus. 

It  is  demaunded,  whither  we  can  approue  this  disorder  in 
callinge  off  men  to  the  function  off  the  Ministery,  whiche  is, 


CCI. 

that  the  multitude  off  those  whiche  sue  for  order  shalbe  en- 
rolled in  the  ministerie  bothe  withowte  the  voices  off  elders 
and  also  no  certeine  cure  appointed  them  but  lightly  examined 
off  their  liues  and  behauiour,  to  whom  also,  at  the  luste  of 
the  Bishoppe  shall  libertie  be  geuen  afterwards  to  preache  the 
worde  off  god  for  a  time  prescribed,  otherwise  to  reherse  onely 
the  churche  seruice. 

We  answere,  that  suche  callinges  off  Ministers,  whither 
we  answere  them  by  the  rule  off  Gods  expresse  worde  or 
ells  by  force  off  Cannons  that  are  beste  tried  and  allowed 
are  holden  and  estemed  of  vs,  altogether  vnlawfull,  abeit  we 
knowe  that  it  is  better  to  haue  halfe  a  loffe  then  no  bread. 
But  we  beseche  god  with  oure  whole  hartes  that  it  also  will 
please  him  to  bestowe  vppon  the  kingdome  off  England  also 
the  same  (that  is)  a  lawfull  and  ordinarie  callinge  off  men  to 
the  ministerie  of  the  worde  and  Sacramentes.  For  it  beinge 
either  kept  owte  or  hindred,  the  benefit  of  the  doctrine  of 
truthe  muste  of  force  by  and  by  vanishe  awaie  or  ells  be  holde 
vp  by  some  meanes  that  is  strange,  yea,  altogether  ghostlie 
and  supernaturall. 

Furthermore,  we  do  in  Goddes  moste  holie  name  most 
humblie  sue  to  the  princes  soueraigne  maiestie,  that  with  the 
whole  force  off  her  minde,  she  endeuour  the  correction  off 
this  point  wherin  the  whole  grounde  and  staie  of  the  churche 
off  England  and  therfore  of  the  Realme  also,  dothe  stand  and 
persiste. 

And  thirdly  we  do  with  teares  beseche  bothe  those  high 
personages  that  are  of  hir  maiesties  honorable  counsaile,  and 
those  which  haue  succeded  in  the  place  off  the  popishe  Bi- 
shopps,  (vndowtedly  through  the  speciall  mercie  off  the  high 
and  Good  god)  that  they  owte  off  the  selff  same  place  where 
ouerthrowe  and  distruction  did  yssue,  they  shulde  vtterly  de- 
stroye  that  tyranye  whiche  hathe  thus  caste  downe  headlonge 
the  verie  Christian  church  and  we  craue  of  them  in  the  dredfull 
name  of  god  before  whose  redouted  throne  of  iudgement  we 
all  shall  be  arested  that  with  al  consideration  and  mindfullness 


ecu. 

of  the  yeres  paste  and  conscience  of  their  dewtie  and  charge, 
they  will  not  slack  to  vovve  and  betrothe  their  whole  diligece, 
aswell  in  orderinge  the  meanes  that  maie  accoplishe  this 
thinge  as  in  perswadinge  the  Queens  maiestie  therto,  and  that 
they  cease  not  at  all  this  thinge  beinge  vnacheued,  cheflie, 
seinge  god  hathe  bestowed  vppon  them,  the  princely  maiestie 
off  so  singuler  a  Mistris  as  from  whose  handes  they  can 
not  but  hope  for  all  princely  and  excellent  thinges,  vnlesse 
they  liste  in  their  owne  case  to  faile  themselues.  But  some  wil 
aske,  howe  shall  we  doo  in  this  pointe,  vntill  then  :  verely  iff 
the  case  were  oures  we  woulde  not  receiue  this  ministerie 
vppon  theis  conditions  iff  it  were  profered  :  a  great  deale  lesse 
woulde  we  sue  for  it.  Notwithstandinge,  we  exhorte  theis 
men  to  whom  god  hathe  by  this  waie  made  entrance  to  the 
enlarging  off  the  glorie  off  his  kingdome  that  in  the  feare  off 
god  they  do  couragiously  abide  therin,  yet  with  the  condition 
that  it  maie  be  lawfull  for  them  holily  and  religiously  to 
exercise  all  their  whole  ministerie.  And  theifore  maie  also 
propounde,  and  vrge  those  thinges  in  their  cures  which  doo 
allwaies  apperteine  to  the  aduauncement  off  the  better  estate 
therin.  For  otherwise,  if  they  be  forced  of  this  libertie  and  so 
willed  to  winke  at  manifeste  abuses,  that  they  shuld  also  ap- 
proue  theis  thinges  whiche  dowtlesse  ought  to  be  redressed  : 
what  thinge  els  can  we  perswade  them  then  that  they  shulde 
retire  from  this,  to  their  priuate  lyffe  rather  then  withoute 
conscience  to  norishe  that  mischief  whiche  dothe  off  force 
drawe  whith  it  the  whole  wastinge  and  decaie  of  all  the  con- 
gregation ?  Yet  we  hope  that  the  Queens  highnesse  and  so 
many  honorable  and  good  men  will  in  suche  sorte  plante  their 
diligence  that  rather  priuiledge  off  libertie  maie  be  graunted 
to  the  consciences  of  so  manie  godlie  and  lerned  brethern 
then  that  theis  horrible  eueils  shulde  folowe.  To  wete,  that 
the  pastors  off  the  flockes  shulde  be  constrained  either  againste 
the  soundnes  off  their  consciences  to  do  that  whiche  is  euell 
(and  so  to  be  chained  in  other  mennes  sinnes,  or  ells  to  resigne 
their  ministerie,  for  that  third  necessitie  that  will  ensue  this 


CCIII. 

whiche  is,  that  againste  the  princes  and  Bishops  willes  they 
should  excercise  their  office)  we  do  so  muche  the  more  tremble 
at,  bycause  of  those  reasons  whiche  off  themselues  are  plaine 
enoughe,  albeit  we  doo  not  vtter  them. 

It  is  also  desired  off  vs  to  answere  plainely  and  truly 
whither  we  do  allowe  the  distinction  ordeined  in  the  wearinge 
off  copes  and  garments  aswell  for  the  common  vse,  as  for  the 
ministerie. 

We  therfore  do  flattlie  answere  the  cause  standinge  as 
we  do  vnderstande,  that  those  men  ihat  are  authors  hereoff 
do  deserue  moste  euell  off  the  churche  and  shall  answere  at 
the  dreadfull  barre  off  Christe  his  Iudgement.  For  although 
that  we  thinke  that  that  politique  order  whereby  not  citezins 
alone,  but  also  the  degrees  off  functions  are  marked  and 
noted  is  not  to  be  discommended  wholie  at  all:  yet  we  are  off 
opinion  that  not  euerie  marke  and  note  is  straight  way  to  be 
vsed.  For  put  the  case  that  the  ministers  were  commaunded 
to  weare  the  pied  coate  off  a  foole  or  the  garmente  off  a  vice 
in  a  plaie,  were  it  not  manifeste  skorninge  off  the  ministerie 
so  to  do?  And  those  that  vse  theis  other  garments  and 
aparrell  comaunded,  do  seeme  verely  to  vs  to  trespasse  some- 
what worse  then  so,  bicause  that  the  lorde  hath  not  onely 
reared  and  set  vs  this  priestlike  apparell  as  a  toie  to  be  laughe 
at  euen  off  many  off  the  Papistes  themselues  :  But  it  is  also 
certeine,  that  the  same  is  poluted  and  denied  with  infinite 
superstition.  But  some  men  will  pleade  the  antiquitie  theroff. 
Surely  they  are  olde,  and  yet  the  Apostolique  symplicitie 
wherein  the  churche  did  florishe,  is  a  great  deale  more  aun- 
cient  then  this.  Also,  yff  it  please  him  to  wade  yet  further  to 
serche  abovvte  theis  matters,  it  shall  be  easie  enough  to  shewe 
that  theis  thinges,  whiche  after  that,  did  serue  for  the  note  and 
marke  off  the  ministerie  were  first  vsuall  amonge  the  people 
and  common.  And  therfore  whence  commethe  it,  thinges 
beinge  altered  after  so  longe  a  season,  that  this  forein  and 
strange  guise  shuld  be  reteined. 

Dothe  it  not  come  off  a  zeele  bothe  euell  and  vnprofitable  ? 
k  2 


CCIIII. 

But  some  man  will  saie  :  Theis  thinges  for  all  that  are  thinges 
off  the  middle  sorte  and  indifferent.     We  graunte  in  dede  that 
they  are  such  yff  your  will  consider  them  simply  and  in  their 
owne  nature,  and  aparte  from  all  circumstances  :  but  who  are 
they  that  will  so  waie  and  consider  them  ?  For  theis  men  that 
are  yet  Papistes,  what  purpos  so  euer  this  ciuill  lawe  dothe 
pretend,  are  surely  by  theis  meanes  established  deeper  in  this 
superstition  whiche  hathe  so  ouergrowen   them.     And  these 
men  that  began  so  earnestlie  to  abhorre  superstition,  that  they 
nowe  did  deteste  monimetes  and  reliques  theroff:  Howe  muche 
are  they  offended  and  wouded  herein.     As  for  those  whiche 
are  further,   and  better  lerned,  what  frute  reape  they  theroff. 
And  farther  is  this  difference  and  marke  off  the  functions  of 
suche  importaunce,  that  therfore   the  consciences  off  so  many 
shuld  be  troubled  :   especially  seinge  the  reason  and  purpos 
therof  newlie  set  a  broche  is  but  drawen  euen  from  those  that 
are  themselues  the  manifeste  sworne  enemies  to  sounde  doc- 
trine ?     What  meaneth  it  also,  that  offthose  also  that  are  termed 
to  be  Ecclesiastically  brought  vpp  and  are  in  the  ministerie  not 
the  smalleste  parte,   are  saide  to  haue  their  papistrie  in  their 
brestes  abowte  with  them  ?    Is  this  the  good  houre  wherin  they 
shall  better  profit  by  restoringe  off  this  attire  ?  or  shall  they 
not  rather  vaunte  their  crestes  as  in  hope  to  haue  poperie  re- 
stored againe  ?  Iff  anie  shall  obiecte  the  circums[is]inge  off  Ti- 
mothy and  other  like  examples :  we  right  earnestly  praie  him 
to  consider  what  Paule  woulde  haue  saide  yff  any  man  shulde 
haue  made  this  lawe,  that  euery  man  that  is  in  the  ministerie 
off  the  gospell  shalbe  constrained  to  weare  the  garmentes  off 
the  Pharisies,  or  that  they  in  the  apparell  off  prophane  priestes 
shulde  preach  the   gospell  and  administer  the   Sacramentes, 
and  not  onely  circumcise  their  children,  notwithstandinge  that 
vnder  some  couler  of  reason,  this  ciuill  comaundement  might 
setfoorthe  the  same,  yea  to  what  ende  are  theis  things  brought 
in.    for  howe  so   euer  they  might  at  the  first  be  tollerated  till 
that  by  litle  ad  litle  they  might  be  take  awaie,  yet  beinge  once 
remoued  owte  off  the  churches,  we  se  not  withe  what  com- 


ccv. 

moditie  they  can  be  restored  to  their  possession  againe.  Ther- 
fore  we  do  eftsonnes  repeate  that  we  before  said,  that  we  can 
not  allowe  this  deuise  nor  yet  hope  for  any  good  to  insue  therofl". 
Notwitlistandinge,  we  will  gladlie  geue  ouer  this  opinion  yfl' 
we  shall  lerne  better  reason  therfore.  What  then  (will  the 
brethern  saie  on  whom  theis  thinges  are  so  throwen)  iudge 
yow  what  we  ought  to  do  herein  ?  we  answere,  that  there 
nedethe  in  this  answere  a  distinction.  For  the  case  off  the  mi- 
nisters and  the  case  of  the  people  are  not  all  one  herein.  Fur- 
thermore :  Manie  thinges  maie,  yea,  and  ought  to  be  borne 
and  tollerated  whiche  are  notwithstandinge  not  iustly  com- 
maunded.  firste  therfore,  we  answere,  that  albeit  theis  thinges 
(as  we  iudge)  are  not  rightly  restored  to  their  possessio  in  the 
congregations,  yet,  seinge  that  they  are  not  off  those  kinde  of 
thinges  whiche  are  of  their  owne  nature  impious  and  vngodly, 
they  seeme  to  vs  not  to  be  off  suche  waight  that  the  shepardes 
shulde  rather  geue  ouer  their  functions  then  receiue  the 
apparell,  or  that  the  flock  shuld  refuse  the  publick  foode  of 
the  soule  rather  then  to  receiue  the  same  from  the  shepardes, 
that  is  appareled  herein  :  onely,  that  as  well  the  sheaphardes 
as  their  flockes  maie  not  sinne  againste  there  consciences  (so 
that  the  puritie  off  doctrine  it  selff  remaine  vntouched)  we  do 
perswade  the  ministers,  after  they  haue  bothe  before  the  queens 
highnesse  and  also  before  the  Bishopps.  set  their  consciences 
at  libertie  by  modeste  protestation  (as  dothe  apperteine  to 
suche  Christians  as  seeke  not  sedition  and  tumulte)  and  yet 
graue  accordinge  to  the  importaunce  of  the  cause,  that  they  do 
in  dede  openly  in  their  parishe,  still  beare  vpon  those  thinges, 
that  maye  seme  to  the  vtter  takinge  awaie  off  the  stumblinge 
blocke.  And  that  as  God  shall  geue  occasion  they  will  wholie 
geue  them  selues  bothe  wiselie  and  meekely  to  correct  all 
those,  abuses,  but  yet  to  beare  those  thinges  whiche  they  cannot 
streight  waie  change,  rather  then  forsakinge  their  congregation 
they  shulde  geue  occasion  to  Sathan,  that  sekethe  nothinge 
els  to  stirre  vpp  greater  and  more  perilous  mischiefs  then  theis. 
As  for  the  people  (the  doctrine  remaining  vnhurte)  we  do 

k  3 


CCVI. 

exhorte  them  that  for  all  theis  thinges  they  will  diligently 
heare  the  same,  to  vse  the  Sacramentes  Religiously,  and  so 
longe  to  grone  to  God  with  earnest  amendment  off  liffe  vntill 
they  obtaine  off  them  that  which  dothe  appertaine  to  the  full 
redresse  and  amendment  off  the  churche. 

But  againe  yff  that  the  Ministers  be  commaunded  not  onelie 
to  tollerate  theis  thinges,  but  also  that  they  shall  withe  their 
subscriptions  allowe  them  as  lawfull,  or  ells  by  their  stillnes 
foster  them  :  what  can  we  ells  perswade  them  to  doo  but  that 
hauing  witnessed  their  innocencie  and  in  the  feare  off  the  lorde 
tried  all  meanes,  they  shulde  geue  ouer  their  functions  to  open 
wronge.  But  oure  hartes  betide  vs  off  Englande  muche 
better  thinges  then  theis  extremities. 

Yt  is  demaunded  off  vs  what  we  do  Iudge  off  the  trollinge 
and  descantinge  off  the  Psalmes,  crossinge  off  those  babes 
that  shal  be  baptized,  and  off  the  demaundes  in  baptisme,  also 
off  the  rownd  vnleauened  waffercake  and  knelinge  in  the 
lordes  supper. 

We  answere,  that  kinde  off  singinge  semethe  to  be  the 
corruption  off  the  pure  ancient  churche  seruice  and  glorifinge 
of  God  therin.  And  as  for  crossinge  off  babes,  whatsoeuer 
practise  there  hathe  byn  theroff  in  time  ofolde,  yet  is  it  moste 
certeine  that  it  is  truly  in  theis  dais  throughe  so  late  greenesse 
off  the  superstition  so  moste  abhominable,  as  that  we  iudge 
those  men  to  haue  done  assuredly  well  that  haue  once  driuen 
this  rite  owte  off  the  con^re^atio  wherof  also  we  se  not  what 
the  profit  is.  And  we  dowte  not  but  the  demauds  in  baptisme 
haue  creapt  into  the  churche  vpon  this  occasion,  because  that 
through  the  negligece  of  the  bishops  the  same  forme  of  bap- 
tizinge  of  childre  was  reteined  which  at  the  first  rearing  of  the 
primatiue  churche,  was  to  be  vsed  at  the  baptizinge  off  those 
that  beinge  off  yeres  did  entre  the  profession  off  Christe.  This 
thinge  also  we  maie  perceiue  by  manie  the  like  yet  in  vse  in  the 
popishe  baptisme.  Wherfore  euen  as  the  creame  and  charme 
vsed  in  baptisme  are  by  gods  lawe  abolished  although  they 
were   ancient,   so  wishe  we  also  theis  demaundinges,   beinge 


CCVII. 

not  onely  vaine  but  folishe  shuld  be  also  passed  ouer  albeit 
that  S.  Augustine  himselfF  clothe  seeme  in  an  Epistle  off  his 
to  sustein  it  by  certeine  deuised  construction. 

The  bread  whither  it  ought  to  be  made  with  leuen  or  with- 
owte  we  thinke  it  not  greatly  to  be  striuen  for,  althoughe  we 
Iudge  it  more  fit  and  consonant  withe  Christes  institution  to 
haue  the  bread  at  the  communion,  whiche  is  vsed  at  the  com- 
mon table:  for  why  did  the  lorde  vse  vnleuened  bread,  bicause 
that  in  that  houre  wherin  he  thought  good  to  institute  his 
holie  supper,  not  one  man  in  all  Iewrie  vsed  anie  other. 
Therfore,  it  behoueth  vs  to  restore  the  Iewishe  feaste  off  vn- 
leuened bread  or  ells  must  it  be  graunted  that  is  better  to  vse 
the  common  and  accustomed  bread  off  all  tables  accordino-e  to 

c 

the  example  off  Christe,  notwithstandinge  that  the  bread  that 
he  then  tooke  was  vnleuened  :  For  off  the  practise  off  the 
primatiue  churche  whiche  the  Greek  churche  dothe  yet  in 
this  behalff  reteine  we  ouer  passe  to  write  off. 

Furthermore  knelinge  at  the  verie  receypt  off  the  sacra- 
mente  hathe  in  it  a  shewe  off  Godly  and  Christian  reuerence 
and  might  therfore  in  times  paste  be  vsed  with  profit,  yet  for 
all  that  bicause  owte  off  this  fountaine  the  detestable  vse  off 
bread  worship  did  folowe,  and  dothe  yet  in  theis  daies  stick 
in  many  mindes,  it  semethe  to  vs  that  it  was  iustlie  abolished 
owte  fro  the  congregations.  Therfore,  we  do  beseche  the 
most  Good  and  great  God  that  it  woulde  please  him  to  in- 
structe  bothe  the  Queens  maiesties  highnesse  and  also  the 
Bishopps  with  such  deuise  as  shall  be  moste  nedefull  for  the 
perfect  doinge  owte  off  theis  filthes,  and  that  at  once.  In  the 
meane  time,  bicause  theis  thinges,  also  are  not  suche  as  are  in 
their  owne  nature  Idolatrous  we  do  Iudge  that  they  ought  s<; 
to  be  dealte  with,  as  we  haue  aduised  in  the  thinges  goinge 
next  before. 

It  is  demaunded  off  vs  whether  we  allowe  that  baptisme 
whiche  is  administred  by  midwiues. 

We  answere  that  not  onely  we  dissalowe  the  baptisme  - 
the  rest  off  thinges  before  spoken  off,  but  that  we  do  iudge 

k  4 


CCVIII. 

it  also  intolerable.  For  it  is  a  thinge  that  hathe  risen  aswell 
of  ignorance  of  the  verie  vse  of  baptism  :  as  the  publique  mi- 
nisterie  of  the  churche.  We  Iudge  therfore  that  the  ministers 
are  bovvnde  sharply  to  rebuke  this  abuse,  muche  lesse  ought 
they  to  holde  this  false  baptisme,  for  good  and  firme.  The 
reason  why,  the  lerned  on  oure  side  haue  often  declared.  And 
we  are  also  readie  when  it  shalbe  nedefull  to  declare. 

It  is  also  reported  vnto  vs  that  the  kaies  off  bindinge 
and  losinge  are  practised  in  certeine  courtes  off  the  Bishops, 
neither  by  the  sentences  and  iudgements  off  elders,  whiche 
office  that  churche  hathe  not  yet  receiued,  nor  accordinge  to 
the  worde  off  God  :  but  the  authoritie  off  certeine  lawiers 
and  other  like,  whiche  is  more,  often  times  by  the  authoritie 
off  some  one  man,  and  that  also  for  suche  kinde  off  actions  as 
are  pure  monie  matters  euen  as  the  misuse  off  the  same  was 
in  popery. 

Wherto  we  answere  that  it  semethe  to  vs  almoste  incre- 
dible that  any  such  customes  and  examples  (beinge  most  per- 
uerse)  shulde  be  vsed  in  that  kingdome,  where  as  puritie  and 
soundnes  off  doctrine  is.  For  the  right  off  excommunication 
and  byndinge  off  the  offender  shalbe  founde  neuer  to  haue  bin 
before  the  time  of  the  Papistes  in  the  power  and  hand  off  one 
sole  persone,  but  did  apperteine  to  all  the  whole  eldershipp, 
fro  whiche  also  the  people  themselues  were  not  rashlie  shut 
owte.  Bicause  this  also  the  lawierlike  hearinge  off  suites  that 
appertaine  to  liuinges  did  fall  to  the  Bishops  charge  alto- 
gether through  abuse.  For  that  place  wherin  the  Apostle 
talketh  off  daiesmen  vmpires  at  Corinth  is  to  no  purpose 
where  as  the  magistrate  is  a  Christian  :  nor  did  the  x\postell 
euer  thinke  to  burthen  the  Eldershipp  with  the  hearing  off 
suche  meere  ciuill  causes.  And  it  is  most  certeine,  that 
the  Bishopps  off  the  elder  age  off  the  churche,  haue  had  the 
determining  off  such  controuersies  not  for  anie  authoritie 
that  they  had  therin  but  through  the  importunitie  off  suters, 
and  that  as  howsolders  vmpires  and  daies  men.  Also,  not- 
withstandinge    amonge   those  men  where    this    were  shewed 


CCIX. 

vnto,  those  did  most  wisely  gouerne  themselues  whiche  chose 
rather  to  folowe  the  example  off  Christ  oure  Sauiour,  who 
refused  to  be  the  vmpire  in  deuidinge  off  the  patrimonie,  or 
els  Iudge  in  the  matter  off  adulterie,  when  bothe  the  same 
were  preferred  vnto  him. 

Therfore,  yffin  Englande  anie  thinge  be  done  contrary  to 
this,  surely  we  ought  to  thinke  that  by  suche  sentences  and 
Iudgementes,  ther  is  not  anie  man  before  god  any  more  bownde 
then  by  the  popishe  excommunications.  And  we  wische  that 
this  torment  howse  off  consciences  and  lothsome  prophanation 
off  the  Ecclesiasticall  and  meere  spirituall  Jurisdiction  might 
by  the  authoritie  off  the  Queens  Maiestie  owte  off  hande  be 
abolished  no  otherwise  then  the  marringe  off  the  very  doc- 
trine it  selff.  And  that  Eldershippe  and  Deacons  maie  be 
restored  and  set  vpp  according  to  the  worde  off  God  and 
cannons  off  the  pure  churche,  whiche  thinge,  yff  it  be  not 
done,  verelie,  we  are  sore  afraide  that  this  onely  thinge  will  be 
the  begiiiinge  off  manie  calamities,  whiche  we  would  god, 
would  turne  awaie  from  vs.  For  it  is  moste  certeine  that  the 
sonne  off  god  will  one  daie  from  heauen  roughly  reuenge  theis 
manifest  abuses,  wherwith  the  consciences  off  oure  brethern 
are  troubled,  excepte  spedely,  redresse  be  had  therin. 

In  the  meane  whiles,  the  thinges  whiche  are  not  well 
done  by  the  one  partie,  maie  be  well  enoughe  tollerated  (as  we 
thinke)  by  those  men  whiche  beare  the  thinge  whiche  they  can 
not  change.  Yet  thus  farre  :  as  that  they  allowe  not  the  thinge 
it  selff  for  good,  but  do  onely  redeeme  their  vniuste  disquiet- 
ing by  patience.  But  yff  so  be  that  they  shalbe  forced,  not 
onely  to  tollerate  this  facion  but  also  to  approue  this  excom- 
munication as  lawfull  and  be  constrained  to  aske  vnlawfull 
absolution  to  assent  to  this  manifest  abuse,  we  then  exhorte 
them  that  they  will  rather  suffer  anie  kinde  off  trouble 
then  to  do  herin  against  their  consciences.  But  to  what 
ende  is  all  this :  For  vcrilie,  we  do  promes  oure  selues 
muche  better  thinges  then  theis,  yea,  off  all  thinges  the  beste 
euen  at  this  pinche,  especially  off  that  Realme  in  whiche,  the 


ccx. 

restoringe  off  Christian  Religion  hathe  byn  sealed  and  eon- 
firmed  with  the  bloud  of  so  many  excellent  martirs  also. 
Onely,  we  feare  this,  leaste  that  which  hathe  befallen  so  many 
countries  shuld  happen  toEnglande,  to  wit,  lea  ste,bycausethe 
due  frutes  off  repentance  are  not  brought  foorthe,  -the  angrie 
god  shuld  dooble  oure  darknesse,  the  light  of  his  gospel  beinge 
first  taken  from  vs.  Off  this  content  are  oure  dailie  preach- 
ings in  oure  congregations,  and  verely,  we  thinke  the  same 
ought  to  be  done  off  all  Ministers  off  Gods  worde  especially  in 
theis  oure  daies.  That  they  chiefly  set  forwardes  this  prin- 
ciple off  the  gospell  whiche  dothe  apperteine  to  earnest  amend- 
ment off  lyffe.  For  this  point  achiued,  vndowtedly  the  lorde 
shall  geue  bothe  counsaile  and  zeale  and  all  thinges  els  whiche 
do  necessarely  apperteine  to  the  accomplishement  off  the  re- 
paration off  the  churche,  already  begone.  And  before  all  we 
doo  require  and  with  teares  humbly  craue  that  oure  good  and 
right  worshipfull  in  the  lorde  the  brethern  off  the  Englishe 
churches,  all  bitternes  off  minde  set  aparte,  whiche  we  surely 
feare,  after  what  sorte  it  hathe  on  either  side  forced  this  euell, 
would  patiently  beare  and  suffer  eche  other,  so  longe  as  puritie 
off  Christian  doctrine  it  selff  and  soundnes  off  conscience  dothe 
remaine :  Willingly  to  obaye  the  Queens  Maiestie  who  is 
full  off  compassion  :  And  all  other  prelates.  And  fynally,  that 
with  all  concorde  minds  in  the  lorde,  of  they  manly  set  against 
Satha,  who  sekethe  all  occasion  of  tumulte  ad  infinite  calami- 
ties :  yea,  although  they  haue  not  like  judgement  of  all  sorte  off 
prealaets  at  the  firste.  for  this  oure  writinge,  god  is  oure  wit- 
nesse,  doth  not  tede  to  this  purpos,  that  either  parte  shuld  vse 
it  against  other  as  that  we  shuld  send  it  to  yow  as  an  apple  of 
contention  :  Although  we  haue  concerninge  theis  matters  de- 
clared oure  Iudgements,  euen  symplie,  as  vppon  a  supposed 
case,  (god  is  oure  witnes)  beinge  euercome  withe  the  con- 
tinuall  sute  off  oure  brethern.  And  we  ioine  oure  dailie  praiers 
to  the  groninges  off  all  the  godlye  on  that  side  the  seas,  that 
it  maie  please  the  moste  mercifull  god  hauinge  compassion  on 
mannes  frailtie,  to  directe  the  Queens  highenes,  and  all  the 


CCXI. 

nobles  off  the  realme  off  Englande.  Also  euery  prelate,  and 
fynally,  eche  workman  off  this  spiritual]  buildinge  with  his 
holy  spirite  moste  effectuously,  so  as  the  worke  off  the  lorde 
so  often  begonne  and  so  often  staied  may  luckely  be  set  for- 
warde  to  the  great  quietnes  and  Concorde  off  all  men  not 
onely  the  old  staines  in  the  doctrine  it  self  and  Ecclesiasticall 
discipline  also,  beinge  at  lenght  vtterly  done  owte,  but  also  all 
monstrousnes  off  errors  and  whiche  Satan  newlie  sekethe  to 
bring  into  the  churche  againe  driuen  awaie.  Whiche  vouche- 
saffe  to  bring  to  passe  through  his  holy  spirite,  the  moste  kinde 
father  in  Iesus  Christe,  his  verie  sonne  eternall  and  consub- 
stantiall  with  him,  in  whiche  persones,  we  professe  one  god, 
and  not  diuers,  ought  to  be  worshipped  for  euer.  Amen  at 
Geneua  the  24.  October.  1547. 

Your  brethern  in  Christe  to 
all  your  godlines  moste 
assured. 

Theodoras  Beza,  $c.  lo.  Parnilius. 

Remundus  Caluetus  Kuds  Fauerius 

Nicola  us  Coladonus  Vrb.  Caluetus 

lo.  Gaiagnazius  Sim.  Golerlius 

lo.  Tremlerus  Pet.  Carpenterus. 

Iohan  Pinaldus.  Fransc.  Port  us 

Ge.  Fauercjius  Cor.  Barlierdus 

Car.  P.  Hen.  S. 

Egid.  Causeus  :  Jbden.  Dupleus 


CCXII. 


A  Copie  off  the  letter  sent  to  the  Bishopps  and  Pastors 

off  Englande,  who  haith  renunced  the  Romaine 

Antechriste  and  professe  the  lorde 

Iesus  in  sinceritie. 


The  Superintendent  Ministers,  and  commissionars  off  charges 
within  the  Realme  off  Skotland  :  To  thair  brethern  the 
Bishopps  and  Pastors  off  England,  who  haith  renunced  the 
Romaine  Antechriste,  and  do  professe  with  theim  the  lord 
Iesus  in  sinceritie,  desire  the  parpetuall  encrease  off  the 
holie  spirite. 

By  worde  and  writ  it  is  come  to  our  knowledge  (reuerend 
Pastors  that  diners  off  our  deerest  brethern)  amongst  whom 
are  some  off  the  beste  lerned  within  that  Realme,  are 
depriuit  from  Ecclesiasticall  function  and  forbidden  to  preach, 
and  so  by  yow  that  they  are  staiet  to  promote  the  kingdome 
off  Iesus  Christe,  bicaus  their  consciences  will  not  suffer 
to  take  vppon  them  (at  the  commaundement  off  the  authoritie) 
such  garmentes  as  Idolatres  in  time  off  blindes  haue  vset  in 
thair  Idolatrie,  whiche  brute  cannot  be  but  moste  dolorous 
to  our  hartes,  mindfull  off  that  sentence  off  the  Apostel, 
sainge,  yff  ye  byt  and  deuoure  one  an  other,  take  head  leaste  ye 
be  consumit  one  off  an  other.  We  purpose  not  at  this  present 
to  entre  into  the  grownd  off  that  question  whilke  we  heare  off, 
aither  parte  to  be  agitate  with  greiter  vehemencie  then  well 
liketh  vs :  to  wit.  Whidder  that  such  apparell  is  to  be 
coumpted  amongs  thinges  that  are  simplie  indifferint  or  not, 
but  in  the  bowells  off  lord  Iesus  we  craue  the  Christian  charitie 
maie  so  preuaile  in  yow,  in  yow  we  saie,  the  pastoris  and 
leaders  off  the  flock  within  that  Realme. 

That   ye   doo  not   to   others  that,    which    you  woulde  not 


CCXIII. 

others  shulde  doo  to  yow.  Ye  cannot  be  ignorant  how  tender 
a  thinge  the  conscience  off  man  is.  All  that  haue  knowledge 
are  not  a  like  perswadet.  your  consciences  reclames  not  at 
we*aringe  off  such  garmentes,  but  many  thousants  both  godlie 
and  lernet  are  otherwise  perswadet  whose  consciences  are 
continually  stricken  with  theis  sentences  :  what  haith  Christe 
Iesus  to  doe  with  beliall?  what  feloshipp  is  thair  betwixt 
darkness  and  licht  ?  yff  surplese,  corner  capp,  and  tippet  haue 
byn  badges  off  ydolatres  in  the  verie  acte  off  their  ydolatrie, 
what  haue  the  preachers  off  Christian  libertie  and  the  open 
rebuker  off  all  superstition  to  doe  with  the  dregges  off  the 
romishe  beast  ?  Our  brothern  that  off  conscience  refusse  that 
vnprofitable  apparel],  doo  neither  damne  your  nor  molest 
yow  that  vse  such  vaine  tryfles.  yf  ye  shall  do  the  like  to  thaim, 
we  dowte  not  but  thairin  ye  sail  pleese  god  and  comforte 
the  hartes  of  many  whilke  are  wonded  with  extremitie,  which 
is  vsed  against  those  godly  and  our  beloued  brethern.  Coloure 
off  rethorik  or  manlie  perswasion  will  we  vse  none,  but 
charitablie  we  desire  yow  to  call  that  sentence  off  pitie  to 
minde  :  feed  the  flock  off  God  which  is  committed  to  your 
charge  caringe  for  them  not  by  constranit  but  willingly  not  as 
though  ye  were  lordes  ouer  goddis  heritage,  but  that  ye 
maie  be  examples  to  ye  flock.  And  farder  also,  we  desier  yow 
to  meditate  that  sentence  off  the  Apostle,  saing :  geue  none 
offence,  neither  to  the  Iewes  nor  to  the  Grecians  nor  to  the 
churche  oft"  God  ?  In  what  condition  off  time  ye  and  we  bothe 
trauiell  in  the  promoting  off  Christs  kingdomm  we  suppose 
yow  not  to  be  ignorant.  And  therfore,  we  are  more  bolde  to 
exhorte  yow  to  walke  more  circumspectlie,  then  that  for  such 
vanities,  the  godly  shulde  be  troubled.  For  all  thi'nges  that 
maie  seeme  lawful,  edifie  not.  Yff  the  commaundement  off 
authoritie  vrge  the  conscience  off  yours  and  our  brethern 
more  then  they  can  beere  :  we  vnfenedlye  craue  off  yow,  that 
ye  remember  that  ye  are  callit  the  licht  off  the  worlde  and  the 
earthe. 

All   ciuill   authoritie  hath  not  the  licht  off  God  allwaies 


CCXIIII. 

schininge  before  their  eies  in  the  statutes  and  commandements, 
but  thair  affections  of  times  sauour  to  muche  off  the  earthe 
and  off  wordly  wisedome. 

And  therfore,  we  think  that  ye  shuld  baldlie  oppone  your 
selff  to  all  pouer  that  will  or  dare  extoll  the  selff  not  onely 
against  God,  but  also  against  all  suche  as  do  burthen  the 
consciences  off  the  faithfull  farder  then  god  lies  burthenit 
theim,  by  his  owne  worde.  But  herein,  we  confesse  oure 
offence  in  that  we  haue  entred  farder  in  reasoninge  then  we 
purposet,  an  promiset  at  the  beginninge.  And  therfore,  we 
shortly  returne  to  our  former  humble  supplication,  which  is, 
that  our  brethern  who  amongs  yow  refuse  the  Romishe  ragges, 
maie  finde  off  yow  the  prelatis  such  fauours  as  our  heid 
and  maister  commandis  euery  one  off  his  members  to  shewe 
one  to  an  other,  whilke  we  lucke  to  resaue  of  your  gentlenes, 
not  onely  for  that  ye  feer  to  offend  Goddes  maiestie,  in 
troubling  off  your  brethern  for  such  vane  triffles.  But  also, 
bicause  ye  will  not  refuse  the  humble  requestes  off  vs  your 
brethern  and  felowe  preachers  off  Christe  Iesus,  in  whom, 
albeit  their  appeere  no  great  worldly  pompe,  yet  we  suppose 
yow  will  not  so  fair  despise  vs,  but  that  ye  will  esteeme  vs  to 
be  off  the  nomber  off  those  that  fight  against  that  Romain 
i\ntechriste,  and  traueil  that  the  kingdomme  off  Christ  Iesus 
vniuersally  maie  be  mainteened  and  aduanced.  The  daies  are 
euill.  Iniquitie  abownds.  Christian  charitie  (alas)  is  waxin 
colde,  And  therfore  we  ought  the  more  diligently  to  watche. 
For  the  howre  is  vncerteine  when  the  lorde  Iesus  shall  appeere, 
before  whom  we  your  brethern  and  ye  may  geue  an  accoumpt 
off  our  administration. 

And  thus  in  conclusion,  we  once  againe  craue  fauor  to  our 
brothern  which  graunted,  ye  in  the  lorde  shall  commaunde  vs 
in  thinges  off  dooble  more  importance.  The  lorde  Iesus 
rewle  your  hartes  in  his  true  feare  to  the  ende.  And  geue  vnto 
yow  and  vnto  vs  victorie  ouer  that  coniured  enemie  off  all 
true  Religion  To  witt,  ouer  that  Romaine  Antechriste,  whose 
wonded  heid  Sathan  by  all  mannes   laboris  to  cure  againe, 


ccxv. 

but  to  destruction  shall  he  and  his  mainteiners  go,  by  the 
power  off  the  lorde  Iesus.  To  whose  mightie  power  and  pro- 
tection  we  hartely  com  mitt  yow. 

Subscribet  by  the  handes  off  Superintendentes  one  parte  off 
Mimsters,  and  scribet  in  oure  generall  assemblies  and  fourth 
session  theroff.  Ad  Edenbroug  the  28.  daie  off  December 
15GG. 

Your  louinge  brethern  and  fellow 
preachers  in  Christ  Iesus. 

Io.  Craig.  I0.  Row 

laco.  Mailuil.  Dd.  Lyndesay 

Rob.  Pont.  Io.  Ershin. 

Guil.  Gislisonus  Io.  Wiram. 

Nic.  Spittall.  Io.  Spottiswood. 

Thus  haue  you  hard  in  theis.  2.  letters,   the  Iudgementes 
off  those  excellent  churches  of  the  french  and  the  Skottishe 
touchinge  the  thinges  in  controuersie.     Nowe,  yff  to  theis  I 
shuld  adde  all  other  whiche  are  off  the  same  Iudgement  and 
of  their  opinion  :  the  nomber  off  churches  would  be  so  many, 
that  the  aduersaries  shuld   euidently   se  and  perceaue   what 
small  cause  they  haue  to  charge  vs  thus  with  singularitie,  as 
though  we  were  post  alone,  and  none  to  be  off  oure  opinion. 
And  it  maie  here  also  be  noted,  that  the  moste  auncientest 
fathers   of  this    oure   owne   countrie,   as   maister   Couerdale, 
maister  D.  Turner,  maister  Whithead,  and  many  others  some 
dead  some  yet  liuinge  (from  whose  mouthes  and  pennes,  the 
vrgers  of  theis  receiued  first  the  light  off  the  gospell)  could 
neuer  be  brought  to  yelde  or  consent  vnto  such 
thinges  as  are  now  forced  with  so 
greate  extremitie. 


finis. 


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